8M | OCTOPATH | Game Over | Town Wins!

[Arcthurus]

current vc at

veena (2) nheroarconix, veena
poisonmaid (1) turdpile
nheroarconix (1) enderitem

i feel like that explanation might be lackluster so:
[veena, jerme, poison, nhero] are the consensus suspects/undecided, +arckas before he died
[rick, TP, naru, ender, met] +obiwan are confirmed or consensus not mafia so thats where the kill should have gone, however nobody claimed protected and i doubt the witch is among them meaning the kill didnt actually go there, unless a marshal scared them off
theres no way they'd attack poison so that means the kill didnt happen at all, meaning nhero was blocked. the third roleblocker was probably a prankster due to the lack of a second roleblock last night, and its pretty much guaranteed theres a godfather meaning the remaining mafia is prankster/GF.
poison is either the witch or a red herring, either way veena isnt town either with what they're doing today

/vote nheroarconix or /vote veena, whichever works

[RockFire]

So Arc, you think Max and Nhero are just distancing and have been doing so since yesterday because Mela was called out by Rick? I'm going to go back and check to see their thoughts on D2 actually.

Max, what is even your plan because what you're doing doesn't make sense at all.

[Arcthurus]

So Arc, you think Max and Nhero are just distancing and have been doing so since yesterday because Mela was called out by Rick? I'm going to go back and check to see their thoughts on D2 actually.

its been going on since d2

[Veeena]

So Arc, you think Max and Nhero are just distancing and have been doing so since yesterday because Mela was called out by Rick? I'm going to go back and check to see their thoughts on D2 actually.

Max, what is even your plan because what you're doing doesn't make sense at all.

1. I am lynched, shown as citizen, associations confirm Lily as scum.
2. Lily is lynched the next day.

A 1 to 1 tradeoff to remove scum.

[Arcthurus]

understandable

[Metrion]

Which is Witch

1) enderitem
2) Veeena
3) Naru2008
4) Jerme
14) Arcthurus
17) PoisonMaid

Honestly I think the Witch is Ender.

I cant tell if this is serious or not
also Naru being the witch is ??? since he claimed controlled d3 thats at least one more crossed off

Very poor reception to being pushed upon for answers.

Arc, Met, can I ask you guys to level with me here. Witch thoughts and who would have been able to figure out TP was the Vig among all of us.

like i said pretty much anyone trying to find the vig would've found the vig specially after mela pointed out d3 that she found the vig (a call out for the witch to notice probably)
theoretically anyone can be witch other than rick, TP and naru, but i think ender/met are both town and that pretty much ends the "desired nightkill" set for scum, so no i dont think scum hit the witch.

I had Naru down as mafia clear from the wagon but not neutral clear, forgot he claimed witched.

i think the mafia are veenArconix

So you think they started distancing like D1, and then just kept up with it as their mafia team died around them and are continuing it to the bitter end with the theatrics from Veena?

Plausable with how little Veena is actually trying under the façade of "ecksdee vote me IDC". I just want to lynch Nhero then see where they go from there tbh. I think that's always correct.

[RockFire]

Well it has then looking back on it. It just didn't become a huge deal until D3 when they started voting each other.

Well, I don't know why Max would have claimed that they're Citizen since D2 as scum aside from GF because that's dumb to do unless you're invest immune even with a dead TI slot so I guess I'll put my money on Nhero flipping scum. Mostly because I can sort of understand the idea behind it even though I think it's flawed to ever just say "lynch me" regardless of alignment. Nhero is the simplest choice so Occam's razor.

I don't see the SvS argument for them though since this would have to have been planned the entire game and it didn't solidify until D3 and D2 nothing much was going on until Nhero started saying Max was suspect for not giving the last half of their reads list.

/vote Nhero

That should make 3 on them with majority being 6 since we're 11 now with the Arckas modkill.

[Arcthurus]

i think theyre mafia because of today and thus distancing, not that their interactions make them mafia
and (im *pretty sure* that) it begun d2 as just early setup and ended as pidgeon-holing into the mess staring at us

[Arcthurus]

I was looking back on the whole Rick v Mela thing and [...]

witness my amassed meme fire power

Spoiler:

[Veeena]

Metrion you cannot comprehend how much actual fun I am having with this.

This reminds me of CFM1A days.

[Metrion]

I mean this would also be under the assumption that a veena nhero team wouldn't have planned to have been blocked last night. So Arc thinking is sound in a sense.

Rock, who is your other mafia read?

Metrion you cannot comprehend how much actual fun I am having with this.

This reminds me of CFM1A days.

Well that makes one of us.

[Arcthurus]

This isn't even my final form.

Rock forgot his second mafia read because he's mafia unconciously counting wrong.

[RockFire]

Ah, I hadn't thought of it that way so I suppose then Arc's reasoning is understandable. Also, Arc thanks for the memes telling me I'm insane.

Honestly, I think Poison because of their weird entrance and how they scum read me and Ender while we were both pushing Lex earlier on and how the Jerme read was just based on inactivity but you could have said that about Nhero, Max, mela, and Lex, of which we know two were Mafia. But thinking it over now, that doesn't make sense if Nhero preformed the kill to be RBed tonight since what Rick has told us would mean GF but then why wouldn't the GF be preforming the kills? Since the last Mafia is Prankster/Mafioso I guess it could be done just to ensure the GF does nothing to be incriminated of anything?

That or Posion was super inactive and did nothing so they forced Nhero to preform the action because of that but that's metay.

[Arcthurus]

No I'm confident swords would allow pupeteering actions, thats standard mod practice.

[Arcthurus]

No I'm confident swords would allow pupeteering actions, thats standard mod practice.

Oh, but then you get the question of why there was no block. Hmm

[Metrion]

This assumes they have a standard GF however.

What do you think a Prankster's line of play would be last night, Rock?

[Arcthurus]

No I'm confident swords would allow pupeteering actions, thats standard mod practice.

Oh, but then you get the question of why there was no block. Hmm

Because mafia would *want* to block Rick here 100% of the time. So why didnt they?

I assume its a prankster and since rick gets results no matter what. Meaning pranking wouldnt do shit. If it were mafioso turned consort the block would 100% happen though.

This assumes they have a standard GF however.

What do you think a Prankster's line of play would be last night, Rock?

Hmm yeah. If the GF can only kill they definitely killed while the other mafia mafia'd.

[RockFire]

Yeah Arc, that's why I'm confused because everyone else besides Max, Nhero, and Poison going into today was not on the lynch table for me since everyone else is Town and the neutral I think is lurking in my Town reads but that seemed too perfect so I was tin foiling because things don't add up and I trust my reads enough since they've been pretty accurate given the flips at this point.

I mean, the Gent flip says invest immune Mafia head so maybe they had they have the Marionette too since it's likely Mafia from what it did during the Lex lynch which would mean the secondary role would preform the kill to preserve the scum double voter in case of anything unforeseen? And honestly I guess a prankster can't do much in the grand scheme of things besides continue the RB thing which would be proven a lie fairly easily if they did it to a PR that gets more than one night result like if they tried doing it to Rick.

P. Edit: The snipe

[Arcthurus]

https://d1u5p3l4wpay3k.cloudfront.net/d ... ack_12.mp3

[NheroArconix]

So Arc, you think Max and Nhero are just distancing and have been doing so since yesterday because Mela was called out by Rick? I'm going to go back and check to see their thoughts on D2 actually.

Max, what is even your plan because what you're doing doesn't make sense at all.

1. I am lynched, shown as citizen, associations confirm Lily as scum.
2. Lily is lynched the next day.

A 1 to 1 tradeoff to remove scum.

Ok so what happens when I flip town.
Not if, when.


Maybe im just bad or frustrated or something but I don't know what I can say or do to convince you all I'm town, but I am.
Watching this day go "ok lynch town because nobody's willing to try and investigate the other scumread" is not fun and incredibly taxing on me mentally.

At this point all I have to say because I don't think I can convince you all at this point is that Poison has yet to post. Maybe im just hopeful something will be there so make what you will of it. You've seen my thoughts on Veeena.

[Jerme]

So for the suspecting that Ender is scum or town. WHo was the one that brought the Medium up? I have not seen any info from the dead being relayed to the living, yet.
This means to me that the Medium claim could be fake and being replaced by Obis autoconfirm town flip.

[enderitem]

Can we eternally block Nhero while we lynch our leads?

[TurdPile]

Can we eternally block Nhero while we lynch our leads?

I was told any mafia can choose to kill

[Jerme]

Can we eternally block Nhero while we lynch our leads?

I was told any mafia can choose to kill

This would force the second Maf member to stop their action though.
Was anyone alse apart from Nhero roleblocked?

[NheroArconix]

Can we eternally block Nhero while we lynch our leads?

If you want to eternally block a cit sure.
Keep in mind witch will get to make tp shoot someone though.