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Re: 14E - A Toast to Coolway99 and hippophant (D3)

Postby TorqueRxF » Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:08 pm

Vote count

Polypies (1) - Uzay

Not voting - Everyone else

Majority is 9.
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Re: 14E - A Toast to Coolway99 and hippophant (D3)

Postby Arckas » Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:12 pm

UzayAltay wrote:@arckas , what did M4x whispered to you at Day 2? You should say that because of M4x is probably evil .

I do not trust Olly or non27. Poly gives me town vibes and macca is VI.

Is what she said.
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Re: 14E - A Toast to Coolway99 and hippophant (D3)

Postby Arckas » Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:59 pm

All hail our Turkish warlord.

Whisper sent.
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Re: 14E - A Toast to Coolway99 and hippophant (D3)

Postby polypies73 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:00 pm

@uzay I didn’t have time to reference everyone else’s analysis on Kosmo/M4xwell, so I just pointed out my main idea.

I still stand by that Kosmo deathtunneling M4xwell because of ‘manipulation’ was really sad. And I didn’t really see much analysis on m4xwell’s scuminess, but I admit I was mainly skimming.
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Re: 14E - A Toast to Coolway99 and hippophant (D3)

Postby polypies73 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:03 pm

Is ended lawyer or what, how is he conf
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Re: 14E - A Toast to Coolway99 and hippophant (D3)

Postby Arckas » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:04 pm

He claims to the the vigilante who shot Macca with no counter claimants when asked.
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Re: 14E - A Toast to Coolway99 and hippophant (D3)

Postby polypies73 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:05 pm

Arckas wrote:He claims to the the vigilante who shot Macca with no counter claimants when asked.

Oh yeah I can;t read
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Re: 14E - A Toast to Coolway99 and hippophant (D3)

Postby xUltiix » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:38 pm

I've openly claimed

Marshal - Macca n1, Arckas n2
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Re: 14E - A Toast to Coolway99 and hippophant (D3)

Postby Soulshade55r » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:54 pm

xUltiix wrote:I've openly claimed

Marshal - Macca n1, Arckas n2


It's fine people would be pretty dumb not to trust you at this point.
I don't really see you has a neutral and you can't be mafia.
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Re: 14E - A Toast to Coolway99 and hippophant (D3)

Postby Arckas » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:00 pm

I don't think he's actually saved anyway, unless my short term memory kicked in.

In any case, let's see someone try to claim town protective with him. Haha. But seriously though.
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Re: 14E - A Toast to Coolway99 and hippophant (D3)

Postby realMandingo » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:00 pm

I think it's safe to assume xUltiix will die tonight, so we should try to play around that. I don't think Mafia will WIFOM and risk leaving alive a PR like Marshall, who will become more powerful as the game goes on.
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Re: 14E - A Toast to Coolway99 and hippophant (D3)

Postby realMandingo » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:01 pm

If we are claiming, who are we claiming, xUltiix or enderitem? I need some clarification.
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Re: 14E - A Toast to Coolway99 and hippophant (D3)

Postby Soulshade55r » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:03 pm

realMandingo wrote:I think it's safe to assume xUltiix will die tonight, so we should try to play around that. I don't think Mafia will WIFOM and risk leaving alive a PR like Marshall, who will become more powerful as the game goes on.

They could just send a deception or consort role to get in the marshal's way and kill but yeah I'm pretty sure that they will be after xUltillx.
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Re: 14E - A Toast to Coolway99 and hippophant (D3)

Postby The11thdoctor » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:09 pm

realMandingo wrote:If we are claiming, who are we claiming, xUltiix or enderitem? I need some clarification.

Enderitem.
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Re: 14E - A Toast to Coolway99 and hippophant (D3)

Postby Arckas » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:12 pm

Soulshade55r wrote:
realMandingo wrote:I think it's safe to assume xUltiix will die tonight, so we should try to play around that. I don't think Mafia will WIFOM and risk leaving alive a PR like Marshall, who will become more powerful as the game goes on.

They could just send a deception or consort role to get in the marshal's way and kill but yeah I'm pretty sure that they will be after xUltillx.

Well we'll know that if Ender doesn't find an escort claim.

And if that happens, the mafia are going to shoot Ender who just might be protected by a Town Random.


And hey, even if he does die I'm sure he'll find somebody else confirmed to whisper give the role list too.
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Re: 14E - A Toast to Coolway99 and hippophant (D3)

Postby Arckas » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:14 pm

By the way, I'm expecting mafia to fight tooth and nail in order to prevent Ender from being the town leader.
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Re: 14E - A Toast to Coolway99 and hippophant (D3)

Postby realMandingo » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:19 pm

I mean I'm more than happy to have a "leader" (someone we can trust) but I don't want us to blindly follow Ender either. I think it's better for us to use him as a means to communicate and exchange information within the town, then make informed judgements. For example, if Ender suddenly said to lynch Ultii because whatever reason, would you vote with them?

I'm not saying not to trust Ender, I am saying to use your own judgement and reasoning and not blindly sheep him because we trust him.
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Re: 14E - A Toast to Coolway99 and hippophant (D3)

Postby Arckas » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:26 pm

Remember what I said about action?
Yep, you are doing it right there.


If Ender said to lynch xUlt, I would 100% say to lynch them because he's the informed individual, at least in this context. That's what a leader is. If he says we have to, he must have a good reason why. It's not like he's mafia, since he's confirmed town. We could try using our own judgement, but we're basing this judgement off of nothing. Ender should have all the knowledge and come up with the conclusion and what we should do, rather then us just vote with mob mentality.

Right now it's should be... Ender's game.

And now you see why this was patched out with whisper restriction and agent.


Don't you dare suggest we do an open role-call when we can whisper to a confirmed town member and hide all our information from the important people.
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Re: 14E - A Toast to Coolway99 and hippophant (D3)

Postby Soulshade55r » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:29 pm

Arckas wrote:Remember what I said about action?
Yep, you are doing it right there.


If Ender said to lynch xUlt, I would 100% say to lynch them because he's the informed individual, at least in this context. That's what a leader is. If he says we have to, he must have a good reason why. It's not like he's mafia, since he's confirmed town. We could try using our own judgement, but we're basing this judgement off of nothing. Ender should have all the knowledge and come up with the conclusion and what we should do, rather then us just vote with mob mentality.

Right now it's should be... Ender's game.

And now you see why this was patched out with whisper restriction and agent.


Don't you dare suggest we do an open role-call when we can whisper to a confirmed town member and hide all our information from the important people.

Agreed. I rather not claim openly right now but I wouldn't mind claiming to Ender.
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Re: 14E - A Toast to Coolway99 and hippophant (D3)

Postby realMandingo » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:21 pm

Arckas wrote:Remember what I said about action?
Yep, you are doing it right there.


If Ender said to lynch xUlt, I would 100% say to lynch them because he's the informed individual, at least in this context. That's what a leader is. If he says we have to, he must have a good reason why. It's not like he's mafia, since he's confirmed town. We could try using our own judgement, but we're basing this judgement off of nothing. Ender should have all the knowledge and come up with the conclusion and what we should do, rather then us just vote with mob mentality.

Right now it's should be... Ender's game.

And now you see why this was patched out with whisper restriction and agent.

Don't you dare suggest we do an open role-call when we can whisper to a confirmed town member and hide all our information from the important people.


First, of course I'm not gonna suggest an open role-call, I'm not that idiotic, I can see what is blatantly wrong.

Second, re-read my post.

Third, look at what I highlighted in red in your post. That's exactly the kind of thinking I want to avoid. Sure, ender might say "lynch Ultii because their claim doesn't fit slots", for example, and then we all blindly follow and it turns out we were wrong, and that Ultii had the slot he claimed and one of the others somehow got ender to overlook their bs or their lie. Now look at what I highlighted in blue. You're assuming that ender can't be wrong, you're assuming that ender can't overlook things, you're assuming ender is better at making calls EVEN WITH all the information they will receive. Ender doesn't have to share ALL information, I just want him to explain his reasoning for his actions (which I am sure he will, but nevertheless it's worth saying).

It's like if your dad, who happens to be a parachute manufacturer, tells you to jump off a plane with his parachute that has holes in it. You, skeptical, question if the parachute works because of the obvious problem but regardless, you jump, because you trust your dad since he is a parachute manufacturer. You fall to your death since the parachute doesn't work.

Again, re-read my post. I am not saying we should go rogue and disregard ender, I am saying to be careful and to think things over before you do them. If you have to question ender privately, do so. If you have to hide information for the benefit of the town, do so. But if you just go with the first thing ender says and he happens to be wrong then you're gonna come back here and I'm gonna say "I told you."

And I'm not sure what to think about your pun.
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Re: 14E - A Toast to Coolway99 and hippophant (D3)

Postby Arckas » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:42 pm

100% am not saying Ender can't be wrong. Why are you putting words in my mouth.

I see your reasoning, and I deny that also. Ender shouldn't reveal information to the entire town, all that does it put more people on the spot and reveals more roles. Also, if a mafia candidate get's picked and we allow discussion, there is a better chance for other mafia to persuade them against voting for the other mafia. You can't give them an inch.

I highly doubt anyone's ability to be omnipotent. Any "discussion" that we have is paid for in advantage that I really don't value personally.

It all comes down to Ender, who still is the confirmed town member we need to rely on.
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Re: 14E - A Toast to Coolway99 and hippophant (D3)

Postby Tiltedcomedian » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:44 pm

getting to whispers please stand by

Olly, Arckas, polypies, Shilster, realMandingo, and 11thdoctor have all whispered to ender! (3/4)
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Re: 14E - A Toast to Coolway99 and hippophant (D3)

Postby The11thdoctor » Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:15 pm

Tiltedcomedian wrote:getting to whispers please stand by

Olly, Arckas, polypies, Shilster, realMandingo, and 11thdoctor have all whispered to ender! (3/4)

Talk about mass roleclaims.
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Re: 14E - A Toast to Coolway99 and hippophant (D3)

Postby Tiltedcomedian » Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:19 pm

The11thdoctor wrote:
Tiltedcomedian wrote:getting to whispers please stand by

Olly, Arckas, polypies, Shilster, realMandingo, and 11thdoctor have all whispered to ender! (3/4)

Talk about mass roleclaims.


(+)Soulshade and jacob! (3/4)
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Re: 14E - A Toast to Coolway99 and hippophant (D3)

Postby enderitem » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:38 pm

Okay, stop assuming I will make dumb decisions, it hurts my feelings and breaks my courage. So far, thanks for the elaborate whispers everyone. I already stated I hate leaving Town in the dark but sadly, I really shouldn't reveal anything until all claims come to me. I need toon, Claudia, Jen, teaser, Uzay and non to claim. I also need Ultix to send me a randomized playerlist so I can leave a will of roles that doesn't say anything to anyone except him if I am convinced he is Town.

When we are waiting for this to happen, apparently teaser was also a popular scumread from many people. What are people's opinions on him?

Also, I will get back to Arckas for that joke after the end of this game when I get my weapon is returned. Also STOP not reading my posts people. You know who you are, one more of this and I will sue or something.
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