Forum Mafia 14B | Game Over (Town and Phantom Win)

[Harkonnen97]

Tbh I respect your scumread on me, besides the probability of me rolling scum is bigger part

Cirque have you tried responding differently and see if things wouldn't make it a bit obvious that you're not Town?

I'm trying to change my playstyle due to out of game reasons, sorry if I come out scummy haha
What part of that seems scummy to you?

wolfy

[qwertyuiopl]

Now give me reads on TD, iggy, Zorua, Cirque, and Var

@qwerty!

Nes wasn't even list you've literally already said your take on her.

Ah well
Erhm
I knew that
I was... Testing you.
And... You passed! A+, flying colors, well done.

[Varanus]

Town list:

Cirque
Hawkeye
iggy
TD
jane
Wabbit
Zorua
Cow
Evan
Soul



Not sure if I missed anyone

[qwertyuiopl]

Why soul and Zorua
And hawk is dead

[qwertyuiopl]

Yeah, ejjnami was really uncertain this game, kind of acting like everything they did was a mistake at times, and I'm pretty sure as town they're a lot more confident. And Zorua is... Ehhh.

[PurpleSidewalk1]

Town list:

Cirque
Hawkeye
iggy
TD
jane
Wabbit
Zorua
Cow
Evan
Soul



Not sure if I missed anyone

in order of bolded
1. is dead
2. why?
3. why?
4. COW? Wtf var

and you missed chit/k1ll

Now give me reads on TD, iggy, Zorua, Cirque, and Var

@qwerty!

Nes wasn't even list you've literally already said your take on her.

Ah well
Erhm
I knew that
I was... Testing you.
And... You passed! A+, flying colors, well done.

Can you fucking do what I asked now? This is actually kind of important.

Lol I just started typing and all of the sudden I hear my computer say "space" and aparently it's saying whatever I type. wtff
Back on topic, Nes why do you talk about yourself like that? You're talking like you don't know what your role is. "Risking a Shade going against Town"

The chance of him being a shade as opposed to a phantom is only 50%

But then he says "rather than someone who guarantees it" he's saying he'd rather do it than qwerty because qwerty guarantees it and he doesn't? Did I misread it?

Can you start from the beginning? No offense but what the hell are you talking about?

Okay this is initially what I thought:

Nes was saying he's a better hammer than qwerty because he's being more scumread and it gives a lesser chance for Shade going against town
And he was saying he's a better hammer since qwerty (assuming Michael is Shade) guarantees Shade to go against Town
But from Nes' perspective, isn't he town? So why say that in the first place?
So I just thought it was kinda weird for Nes to talk about himself that way

I hope that makes more sense. If it doesn't, ignore that I said anything.

I was looking for reasons to scumread Cirque and found this juicy bit of evidence against Nes which basically proves that Nes isn't Town because it is completely valid.



However, I found no reasons to townread Cirque other than possibly tone, but after those recent posts I would lynch Cirque. In fact

/vote Cirque

[NesMettaur]

I’m not scum reading Hark atm. Other than Nes, not liking Jane, Iggy, Evan, and I think there was someone else that I can’t remember atm. I still got to look into the town!Nes arguments. Seeing him more as neutral than Mafia though.

Have you looked into them yet?

I appreciate the sentiments but something about them feel weird to me, Hark's moreso than Purple's.

@chit gtfo of Nes, we can't lynch Neutrals rn, we need information for tomorrow on Mafia. What do you think about TD?

Devil's advocate here, but assuming we manage to nab NK with today's lynch wouldn't that reduce the total deaths per-day and thus buy us more time to hunt the mafia?

Town list:

Cirque
Hawkeye
iggy
TD
jane
Wabbit
Zorua
Cow
Evan
Soul

Not sure if I missed anyone

Just curious, but why isn't chit here? Any reason that makes you reluctant to list him?

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As for right now,

/vote Harkonnen97

If the day closes and we're not anywhere closer to a lynch I'll probably shift gears (we only have... like, seven hours left to figure this out anyways,) but between the constant defending of me and the shenanigans left behind by James I'm confident that there's something fishy to be found here. So for now that's what I'm going to push for.

[qwertyuiopl]

Purple calm down
Fine

Nes no

[qwertyuiopl]

Good news and bad news.
Good news is I have a higher chance of being on at EoD.
Bad news is I am most likely going to have to be very inactive till then.

[Varanus]

I did miss chit
My town read on Zorua is for illegal reasons I can't talk about, and the town read on Soul is for legal reasons I really shouldn't talk about
I don't know what the reason is for the read on TD
I apparently had one at some point though

[PurpleSidewalk1]

@k1ll I would like you to comment on Cirque's recent posts.

I’m not scum reading Hark atm. Other than Nes, not liking Jane, Iggy, Evan, and I think there was someone else that I can’t remember atm. I still got to look into the town!Nes arguments. Seeing him more as neutral than Mafia though.

Have you looked into them yet?

I appreciate the sentiments but something about them feel weird to me, Hark's moreso than Purple's.

What does this even mean? I am not townreading you atm.

@chit gtfo of Nes, we can't lynch Neutrals rn, we need information for tomorrow on Mafia. What do you think about TD?

Devil's advocate here, but assuming we manage to nab NK with today's lynch wouldn't that reduce the total deaths per-day and thus buy us more time to hunt the mafia?

Yeah maybe you are right Nes, if we lynch you then the KPN will go down by one is that what you are trying to say? Because if that's what you are trying to say then maybe I should just vote you. Holy fuck Nes, please read before replying.

As for right now,

/vote Harkonnen97

If the day closes and we're not anywhere closer to a lynch I'll probably shift gears (we only have... like, seven hours left to figure this out anyways,) but between the constant defending of me and the shenanigans left behind by James I'm confident that there's something fishy to be found here. So for now that's what I'm going to push for.

What about defending you (which btw hark barely did), makes hark scum? Can you give me a post in which you scumread James before right now and the reasoning behind that scumread?

Purple calm down
Fine

Nes no

Yeah I think I need a break from this. Gonna take a shower and put away some christmas shit.

[Varanus]

Cow gets the town read because he's the guy I go ask general questions about FM to in order to 1v1 the host

[PurpleSidewalk1]

Day ends in roughly 17 hours and 45 minutes

This time seems very wrong according to the original day starting post. It is 1-2 hours off

[chitownmvp01]

/Vote iggy

Going with my read here.

[chitownmvp01]

does Iggy say we can do better than the Edward lynch as scum?

Town reading TD, mainly gut though

Trying to look like he isn't opportunistic scum pushing town but rather cautious town. Scum like to jump on right before the end, like sorta in the middle, not initiating nor hammering the target. You know? Iggy seems like he is being too cautious in this case, reads fake to me. Idk I dislike iggy as a player maybe I am blinded.

I understand the TD read, but have you had success reading him in the past?

i dont remember my previous success atm

[chitownmvp01]

Purple I won’t vote Cirque. I’m town reading them as well.

[Varanus]

Day end is at

[Varanus]

7 hours 45 minutes or so

[EvanManManMan]

So who do we lynch? I see Iggy votes Hark votes Edward votes and a Zorua vote. I think Nes is a good lynch as well.

We need to decide on a single target fast

[Varanus]

Oh yeah
We need majority

What type of awful host uses majority?

[qwertyuiopl]

Quickie reads on those guys:
Zorua is my top lynch pick. I'm staying on her for the time being.
Iggy is probably mirrorer, I like almost everything about her except her reads, I feel like she might be trying to guess who her buddies are and townread them? Maybe? She seems to have a similar tone to Nes, so I'm saying neutral.
Talking is townie, mostly short posts with questions directed at others looking at the back of the ISO. And I like the uber-long reads.
With cirque I don't really know why they're being scumread by you so much honestly? They have a solid ISO, I don't really notice anything too bad. Granted they were a lot more active d1 than d2. But he shouldn't be a top scumread imo. the parts where he reacted to people's scumreads on him were weird though.

[qwertyuiopl]

Can someone give me a reason not to lynch Zorua???

[Varanus]

Because he's town 90% of the time for illegal reasons

[qwertyuiopl]

Wait what
What the fuck
Elaborate please

[PurpleSidewalk1]

Although Nes isn't the optimal lynch I think we could pull that off in 7 hours, I won't be on for EoD so postponing my shower and christmas shit for a minute.

@qwerty because I think Cirque and Var are more likely scum that Zorua and they seem like they aren't aligned. Zorua is scummy though.