Forum Mafia 14B | Game Over (Town and Phantom Win)

[qwertyuiopl]

Okay so, did K1ll claim Retri or was that a joke D1?
If it's serious, then I think something else exists which could be discussed.

Iggy claimed Transported too, correct?
Just want to be able to confirm things to help me analyse this.

@EdwardMidford what exists that you want to discuss?

On the Edward wagon, he's inactive as hell (I'm pretty bad but I'm not two-days-without-posting bad). And what he has posted I don't really like, just trying to stay under the radar and sheeping obvious reads.

I'm fine with the wagon but I feel like we could probably do better. I may or may not be on at EOD but I'll put up a vote before I go to bed regardless.

He actually clarified right after that he thought that transporter was TPow and that kill's claim wasn't as likely. But trans is TS so yeah.

[qwertyuiopl]

Iggy, any particular wagons you'd prefer to Edward? Gimme something edgy. (Or not, it doesn't actually have to be I'm just really bored)

[chitownmvp01]

Okay so, did K1ll claim Retri or was that a joke D1?
If it's serious, then I think something else exists which could be discussed.

Iggy claimed Transported too, correct?
Just want to be able to confirm things to help me analyse this.

@EdwardMidford what exists that you want to discuss?

On the Edward wagon, he's inactive as hell (I'm pretty bad but I'm not two-days-without-posting bad). And what he has posted I don't really like, just trying to stay under the radar and sheeping obvious reads.

I'm fine with the wagon but I feel like we could probably do better. I may or may not be on at EOD but I'll put up a vote before I go to bed regardless.

I agree with Iggy about the Edward wagon atm.

[xUltiix]

EdwardMidford has been prodded.

[iggyvolz]

Ok so now that I loom it over again Edward isn't a good lynch for today. I think Rogue is much scummier and would serve as a better lynch. I will gather evidence now. If anybody wants to help I would appreciate it.

This post really irks me. Feels like Evan is just trying to decide he's the town leader when that's clearly either Chit or K1ll. Especially the night action thing just after which is literally just saying what roles do (I mean I did one for n1 but it was mostly sarcastic except for saying Michael should go on K1ll). And then the obsession with whether doused people should claim (I still don't get the logic against it, especially for night 1 so we can figure out what we're dealing with).

Not placing a vote just yet but I'd like an explanation.

[Soulshade55r]

/vote Edward

[Soulshade55r]

I'm pretty much seeping on this one

[PurpleSidewalk1]

purple i think you take fm too seriously haha

you don't need to put your soul into it

tryhardness, high expectations and disappointed at imperfection just screams from your posting style

I don't like losing period, doesn't matter if it's FM or some trash word/trivia game that I suck at.

K1ll: (and don't fuck with me on the personal stuff, mostly directed at the mods who take their shit way too seriously)
Spoiler:

@K1ll what do I get if var is town? Like I want some sort of information that would come of the lynch regardless of alignment. I hate the thought of var in LyLo because no only is he useless but he is always somewhat suspicious. Gimme some other incentives to sheep.

i dont seek information when i lynch a player day 2. any day 2 lynch is going to come with guaranteed information. if a town is unsure of a good d1 lynch and have no mindreaders on their team, then yes, info lynch. d2, a compromise of scummy players and info lynching is good.

however, i am a mindreader. i mindread michael as not town d1, and i'm mindreading varanus as mafia. there is no information for me. there is no other benefits except exterminating scum. that is all i was made to do.

What an absolutely retarded answer, as usual

i was talking to kill

hard to work with you purple lol

you still have this image of me as the person i was a few years ago. as if people don't improve

you're probably town for this logical fallacy

That's a bad idea, talking to kill usually ends in this emoji from me:

Meh, maybe you improved, but old habits are still alive, that's why they're old. I forgot the phrase or whatever the fuck it's called.

Probably?

yet you ask reasons to sheep me.

don't worry, when i get banned, people bandwagon on the hate kill wagon. when i'm unbanned, it becomes popular to like kill again. it's a never ending cycle, but one you'll inevitably hop on.

I ask for reasons because there are no other reasons and I am lazy rn I just want a decent lynch with some information so that the glorious gamesolving can occur in a timely manner. Right now I have very little information to go off of and almost everything is a hedge.

In regards to the personal stuff, I don't like you, I never liked you and it isn't your play style or your character you play. It is a plain and simple grudge, so no I don't think I will ever like you. I will however work with you because I am not unreasonable. (and it's not your arrogant/controlling play style as evidenced by the fact that ladd is one of my favourite people to play fm with)

That's a bad idea, talking to kill usually ends in this emoji from me:

there is no problem talking to him. you just have to understand that he's playing a character. treat it as a roleplay. he is still a normal person

Previous shitstorms with kill say otherwise.

you weren't even born by the time i was conquering worlds, son.

Yeah sure mr. 15, you used to be ms. 21 but you were probably 10 at the time so who can blame you for trying on mommy's dress, but mr. 15 is probably just another character, I honestly don't care anymore.

next time just say wolfy it makes you look cool

ok I actually laughed.

/vote Edward
I like qwerty and Evan, and Rouge is null, so i don't see a problem with this wagon atm. They haven't really done anything productive, and I don't like the whole "new player" thing they have. Kinda bringing back Harper vibes from 12C.

explain why you like Evan

He kinda softed... A role which is easily confirmable

don't you think that's like an excuse for their poor posts?

Yes, but also we probably shouldn't lynch PR claims on D2, D3 I would have snapped his spine because what he did was stupid.

Harper is Elusive pretending to be a new player in 12C. They used a different style to put up a facade that they're new.

Yeah, all it really did was make them seem scummier, and they did end up being scum so Edward doing it now might just be rubbing me the wrong way.

So what you are saying is that Evan rubs you the right way? Sorry I couldn't resist.

Spoiler:

I think EvanManManMan's trying to sound like a VI but just can't do so.

What is a VI?

It stands for Village Idiot.
Basically what it sounds like.

For this game I've been experimenting with my play style. I've been recently going for like a Hark/K1ll style which people aren't used to. That makes them see me as scum which is understandable. However I hope that soft claim softened things up

You were going for a Hark/K1ll style??????? Dude stop. You can't pull it off that was awful. <3 don't hate me, that was just my reaction, but seriously don't go for that playstyle it doesn't suit you.

I have a lot of catching up to do but before I get started on all that, why would NK roles claim roleblocked?

I can see Deto/Arso thinking that they wouldn't be outed in the confusion (since you'd need to confirm that there were no fuses or dousings across each individual player) but that still seems like a bit of a gamble to go for.
...or is it that staying quiet on being roleblocked more-or-less outs you implicitly?

Alright well then I think Nes isn't NK but possibly still neutral, maybe even town, I wasn't really thinking NK from the start tbh, people were just sorta thinking that because rb and no ability to read.

And just look through his ISO to find the soft, it's kinda clear. Plus a purple quoted it and was like "boi"

Because it was the dumbest soft I have ever seen, still doubting it is evan real :>



@Ult I don't think Evan's vote is on Edward.



@Hark how can you townread iggy with posts like that, I swear to god iggy gives me actual cancer I can't even reply it just hurts me.

[PurpleSidewalk1]

@jane01 Evan is a bad lynch today since he softed PR, who else do you want to go on out of these {Var, TD, iggy, Cirque}, I know the selection is lacking but it's all I've got

[PurpleSidewalk1]

@chit gtfo of Nes, we can't lynch Neutrals rn, we need information for tomorrow on Mafia. What do you think about TD?

[chitownmvp01]

does Iggy say we can do better than the Edward lynch as scum?

Town reading TD, mainly gut though

[chitownmvp01]

I’m not sure who I want to vote yet. I intend to switch.

[PurpleSidewalk1]

does Iggy say we can do better than the Edward lynch as scum?

Town reading TD, mainly gut though

Trying to look like he isn't opportunistic scum pushing town but rather cautious town. Scum like to jump on right before the end, like sorta in the middle, not initiating nor hammering the target. You know? Iggy seems like he is being too cautious in this case, reads fake to me. Idk I dislike iggy as a player maybe I am blinded.

I understand the TD read, but have you had success reading him in the past?

[qwertyuiopl]

Someone tell me to do something

[qwertyuiopl]

@chitownmvp01 thoughts on a Zorua wagon?
And everyone I guess

[EvanManManMan]

Ok so now that I loom it over again Edward isn't a good lynch for today. I think Rogue is much scummier and would serve as a better lynch. I will gather evidence now. If anybody wants to help I would appreciate it.

This post really irks me. Feels like Evan is just trying to decide he's the town leader when that's clearly either Chit or K1ll. Especially the night action thing just after which is literally just saying what roles do (I mean I did one for n1 but it was mostly sarcastic except for saying Michael should go on K1ll). And then the obsession with whether doused people should claim (I still don't get the logic against it, especially for night 1 so we can figure out what we're dealing with).

Not placing a vote just yet but I'd like an explanation.

I really wasn't thinking when I made that post...

I never assumed I was leader there. Or at least I didn't think I was. My prespective is a whole lot different then everyone else's which is a mistake from me.

The night action thing was more than just stating what roles did. It developed a sort of a plan, being that Nes and I were to be rbed again and the trans would stay off of us. I also said things about what medium and TP should do. Sorry if I was redundant? I don't get how it makes me scummy though.

The obsession with doused people claiming is because if nobody was doused or anything then the possibilites of NK are greatly dwindled. Don't you want to find the NK? Or are you ok with them alive. I was trying to sort out an issue but I guess that is scummy? And Wabbit said not to claim that at the start of the day but now the info should be out there.

Your last 2 points make no sense at all. They aren't scummy actions. I get the point with the quote and that was a genuine mistake from me which I went and apologized for earlier. Your argument was pretty weak

[PurpleSidewalk1]

Someone tell me to do something

Take your vote off Edward because if you lynch Edward and he is town then we have no information on almost any associations going into a potential 10v7 D3 (possibly with someone doused or fused making it MyLo)

Now give me reads on TD, iggy, Zorua, Cirque, and Var

[PurpleSidewalk1]

Also (fuck I didn't say this in last post) chit I think your read on TD is bad since you done misread him at least twice that I can see.

[qwertyuiopl]

Okay, fine, mom. Euch.
/unvote

[EvanManManMan]

@purple my vote is on Edward for now and I will stop with the other play style. Experimenting can't hurt

But should we end the Edward wagon?

Also how much time until EOD?

[qwertyuiopl]

Nes:
As I have said, I think Nes has a very high chance of being NK. For one thing, they were rbed and no one got a bomb/a douse. But there's also that they seem almost too apologetic. As I think has been touched upon, neutrals have to be the most cautious of the three alignments, because if they die, there's no one to fall back on; they're a one-man team. So Nes gets a "probably NK" stamp from me.

[Varanus]

Present

qwerty gets a very nice town read

I'll go find a list of everyone I think is town

[qwertyuiopl]

Actually
/vote Zorua

[PurpleSidewalk1]

Now give me reads on TD, iggy, Zorua, Cirque, and Var

@qwerty!

Nes wasn't even list you've literally already said your take on her.

[qwertyuiopl]

Iggy's ISO is really ew, especially this post:

Chit have you voted?

No, but I want to be a potential master pick. Evil or iggy should join the wagon.

I'm like 99% sure Michael said he was picking K1ll.

Oh boy I sure do love when the host doesn't say if the lynch works with plurality

Plurality is assumed unless otherwise stated.

This is flat-out wrong, and seems a silly attempt to get a No-Lynch. Whether or not that's true, I think iggy should know better.

Overall, she's made some awkward and scummy posts and actions (like why didn't you get angry at ED when it mattered on D1?), so

/vote iggyvolz

A few things wrong with this post
1) how would a no-lynch on a phantom claim help iggy if she were scum? It's not like Michael was a scum buddy or anything. And she would've known that she'd get corrected if she was blatantly lying here; it wouldn't help her literally at all. That post was almost certainly just a mistake on her part.
2) I'm pretty sure she said she'd mixed up the terms plurality and majority after this, no?
3) the "I think iggy would know better" part. It had been mentioned several times before that iggy had been off the forums for... I think people said like 2 years? Correct me if I'm wrong. But you must realize that 2 years' absence from something could make you prone to forgetting things about that subject.
4) what the hell actually is the "get angry at ED when it mattered" part, like actually what does that mean.