Forum Mafia 4D! (Mafia Wins!) "Explosive Anti-Heroes"

[Doobledore]

Actually, now that you think about it, since Kaoru CC'd in a whisper to Hohumpenguin, it's moreso the Lawyer's fault than the towns'. I mean, they could've given the escort a defense, (which is their job) but they didn't..

[ValeforRaine]

Actually, now that you think about it, since Kaoru CC'd in a whisper to Hohumpenguin, it's moreso the Lawyer's fault than the towns'. I mean, they could've given the escort a defense, (which is their job) but they didn't..

What? I don't understand this post at all. What defense could hohum have given?

[Doobledore]

Actually, now that you think about it, since Kaoru CC'd in a whisper to Hohumpenguin, it's moreso the Lawyer's fault than the towns'. I mean, they could've given the escort a defense, (which is their job) but they didn't..

What? I don't understand this post at all. What defense could hohum have given?

They could have said that Kaoru claimed Escort. And town could've decided whether or not to let Coolway live, and kill Kaoru.

[Arckas]

Stop struggling Leyva. No one can win this. We only have one option because of that fact.

What you said was over the top but I do not want to throw this away @Nelly I have sort of felt that way I was a framer in my first Forum Mafia was lynched day 2 for being suspicious just on a mere guess by arckas.

Oh hey this.

Yeah, it was kind of a guess, but considering that something had to be done that was productive that day, I felt like trying something new.

• Try something new
• Judge someones reaction
• Have more useful conversation.
• Attempt to look not like someone who wants to die

Also the fact that their were 5 mafia in that game, so I actually had a 1/4 chance of picking someone, not that I was looking to really. Something also felt off, but that was just me. Their was also no executioners in that game, so I felt like I could honestly do that.

[chitownmvp01]

Actually, now that you think about it, since Kaoru CC'd in a whisper to Hohumpenguin, it's moreso the Lawyer's fault than the towns'. I mean, they could've given the escort a defense, (which is their job) but they didn't..

What? I don't understand this post at all. What defense could hohum have given?

They could have said that Kaoru claimed Escort. And town could've decided whether or not to let Coolway live, and kill Kaoru.

Coolway was less helpful to the town than Kaoru at the time. It's not the Lawyer's fault necessarily.

[TheCow]

Entire town fucked up. Shouldn't have voted guilty.

[Doobledore]

Coolway was less helpful to the town than Kaoru at the time. It's not the Lawyer's fault necessarily.

I may be evil this round chitown, but for future reference "Any lynch is better than no lynch" is never acceptable. With or without retributionist.

Unless of course I'm evil. Then go ahead and lynch them! HUEHUEHUE

[TheCow]

Coolway was less helpful to the town than Kaoru at the time. It's not the Lawyer's fault necessarily.

I may be evil this round chitown, but for future reference "Any lynch is better than no lynch" is never acceptable. With or without retributionist.

Unless of course I'm evil. Then go ahead and lynch them! HUEHUEHUE

A thousand times this.

[leyva45]

I took a guess on killing vale he was doctor so I was so happy. HUEHUEHUEHUE

[ObiWan]

My analysis of the game is here - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7593&p=196739#p196739

[Rickdaily12]

I'd like to revive a bit of discussion on what we did for this game... As some of you may recall, as per this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=18&t=7493

I was discussing some buffs I implemented to several roles for this game. They are also mostly in use for the All-Stars game at this time. Based on these role cards, what did you guys think, seeing the roles in action?

Would any of you object to the thought of these role cards becoming the new permanent ones?

[Doobledore]

I actually like the witch buff, pretty neat. I think it'd be great in the actual game as well, except for vigilantics of course.

Then again I'm the witch, so of course I like it

[Salense]

Witch- Adding a one-time immunity to the witch is a completely fair buff. Looking at this game, the witch was attacked night one. If this buff had not been in play, this game would have been a lot different later on.

Bomber- This game is a perfect example of how Bomber complicates everything. Since there wasn't a single role in this game that could kill Night-Immune roles during the Night. Town had to lynch the Bomber, which in this game gave the mafia the majority vote. So I would say to keep this buff, since it gives the Bomber a higher chance of igniting the fuse early in the game.

Lawyer- The buffs added to this role were never really used in this game since Town fell apart so fast. This would a pretty powerful late game role but normally by late game either the Town is very powerful or Team Evil is very powerful. Normally if it is Team Evil that is really powerful they would just no-Lynch to prevent a lawyer from force killing one of them or just killing the lawyer. Lawyer just kind of seems like a weak role overall, other than being a very easy role to prove it can't really do much else to impact the game with it's abilities, and while these abilities may be pretty powerful, the situations where these abilities would be powerful do not occur very often.

Out of the three buffs, I would definitely add the Witch and Bomber ones to the role cards. Not sure about the Lawyer one since the role can't really do much to influence the game unless a rare situation occurs.

[Rickdaily12]

I still think the Lawyer was in a great position to rescue the Escort this game.

The fact that people refused to look deeper into Coolway's trial and consider a follow-up lynch probably would be considered one of the top three blunders Town made this game. Buffs, or no buffs- the Town's attitude about Coolway's trial is what jeopardized everyone, I truly think.

I still think Coolway's trial highlights the need for a Lawyer role.

[enderitem]

Wait, I found an interesting title related to the Witch's Shield: "You Shall Not Stab!".

Well, we couldn't really see Lawyer's capabilities, sadly.
Witch obviously worked perfectly. This was game changing and helpful for the Witch. It is a really hard role if you ask me.
Bomber's new ability does help it but I am not really expecting a Bomber win anytime soon. It has too many enemies which would give their best to get rid of it.

[WeepingDemons]

Why did we trust Medic's claim? It looked like a blind guess....

[Nellyfox]

Why did we trust Medic's claim? It looked like a blind guess....

Blame LoF.
But dunno. He slipped when he said Jomo was jester. Was too late in the game for that to matter though.

[girisawesomer]

Wait, who believed Medics claim?

[Doobledore]

Wait, who believed Medics claim?

*points at LoF*

Also, I think that "You shall not stab!" Wouldn't be that bad of idea

[chitownmvp01]

I was right to never trust his claim. I believed Ciara's claim the whole time!

[KaoruHitachiin]

I just wanted to say thanks to everyone for making my first FM game amazing!
I never felt stupid or invaluable and I had a lot of laughs.
This game definitely turned me on to FM and I will be back. (:
And hopefully I'll be better, too!

[Nellyfox]

I just wanted to say thanks to everyone for making my first FM game amazing!
I never felt stupid or invaluable and I had a lot of laughs.
This game definitely turned me on to FM and I will be back. (:
And hopefully I'll be better, too!

I want to play with you again, okay.
Next time lets be on the same side.

[KaoruHitachiin]

I just wanted to say thanks to everyone for making my first FM game amazing!
I never felt stupid or invaluable and I had a lot of laughs.
This game definitely turned me on to FM and I will be back. (:
And hopefully I'll be better, too!

I want to play with you again, okay.
Next time lets be on the same side.

Yes, please!!! I don't want to have to kill you again. D:

[LordofFail]

My opinion on this game was that overall town was just too incoherent and that townies themselves caused the town to collapse by either witholding information or just being generally unhelpful (looking at all of you who barely posted and really contributed next to 0 to the conversation) and just an overall lack of information presented to the town.

Granted, I did mess up pretty bad with Medic's claim - had SK not killed me night 2 I would have called Medic out on it (still not quite sure why SK attacked me, and I would like to know from the protectives why nobody protected me or Medic).

Overall, Mafia didnt really need to do much to win, town did not really come together as a town... ah well, the more we know for the next game, right?

[Salense]

Granted, I did mess up pretty bad with Medic's claim - had SK not killed me night 2 I would have called Medic out on it (still not quite sure why SK attacked me, and I would like to know from the protectives why nobody protected me or Medic).

Oh, Britmadness didn't have a choice on who to kill Night 2. Doubledoor controlled him to target you