SFM28 | VCFM | (Rebels, Empire and Feds Win)

[OllyRenard]

We can destroy Schultz tommorow without risk.
We cannot do this same to Vucub, they can put our TK out of the picture for the night.

DESTROY THEM

[glhf3]

If we hang Vucub and Schultz survives the night, quick hammer Schultz.
If we hang Vucub and Schultz dies at the night, immediately go over the roles and figure out who'd be the next target to lynch.
If we hang Schultz and Vucub survives the night, quick hammer Vucub.
If we hang Schultz and Vucub dies at the night, immediately go over roles and figure who'd be the next target to lynch.

[Icibalus]

We can destroy Schultz tommorow without risk.
We cannot do this same to Vucub, they can put our TK out of the picture for the night.

DESTROY THEM

Yes.

Met, it would make me so happy if from now on we vote to DESTROY players, not lynch them.

[Mroz4k]

yea, good idea, Ici.

Lets just keep it this way.

I will vote for Schultz for now, get him higher - and if anyone quickhammers Schultz as well, they are also scum. And we will keep it that way, both of them as closest to the L-1 as we can, and we can let the plurarity run out and decide a lynch (or we will figure out who is better and reach that decision as community)

How does this plan sounds?

/vote Schultz

[Icibalus]

yea, good idea, Ici.

Lets just keep it this way.

I will vote for Schultz for now, get him higher - and if anyone quickhammers Schultz as well, they are also scum. And we will keep it that way, both of them as closest to the L-1 as we can, and we can let the plurarity run out and decide a lynch (or we will figure out who is better and reach that decision as community)

How does this plan sounds?

/vote Schultz

It's decided.

Now gtg everyone.

Good evening.

[glhf3]

We can destroy Schultz tommorow without risk.
We cannot do this same to Vucub, they can put our TK out of the picture for the night.

Ici's assumptions are assumptiony.

I still think it's more likely Vucub is the NPC controller or Consort.

...Actually, I got some thoughts on that. The first mafia RB was on Olly n3, at least as far as know. That'd likely mean the consort is among the replacements, right?

[Mroz4k]

Just make sure that at least ONE of them is at L-1 or L-2!

But DONT hammer, and dont vote if you are not sure about the votes, better ask. We dont want to cut the day short!

[Metrion]

Vote Count

Schultz128 (4): BS4125, MichaelgRook, Stri, Mroz4k
OllyRenard (1): Schultz128
VucubCaquix (6): Icibalus, Orangeandblack5, OllyRenard, tfiosforevah, glfh3, roz1roz


With 15 alive, 8 is majority.

[glhf3]

Just make sure that at least ONE of them is at L-1 or L-2!

But DONT hammer, and dont vote if you are not sure about the votes, better ask. We dont want to cut the day short!

Mroz, when was the first night that you had in game? n2 or n3? We only had a report of an RB on Olly n3 so I'm wondering if the consort is one of the replacements.

[roz1roz]

We can destroy Schultz tommorow without risk.
We cannot do this same to Vucub, they can put our TK out of the picture for the night.

Ici's assumptions are assumptiony.

I still think it's more likely Vucub is the NPC controller or Consort.

...Actually, I got some thoughts on that. The first mafia RB was on Olly n3, at least as far as know. That'd likely mean the consort is among the replacements, right?

TPA claimed roleblocked n1.

[glhf3]

We can destroy Schultz tommorow without risk.
We cannot do this same to Vucub, they can put our TK out of the picture for the night.

Ici's assumptions are assumptiony.

I still think it's more likely Vucub is the NPC controller or Consort.

...Actually, I got some thoughts on that. The first mafia RB was on Olly n3, at least as far as know. That'd likely mean the consort is among the replacements, right?

TPA claimed roleblocked n1.

I missed that. Well, that's good to know.

[OllyRenard]

If we lose I'm going to blame it on cow kappa

[Mroz4k]

Just make sure that at least ONE of them is at L-1 or L-2!

But DONT hammer, and dont vote if you are not sure about the votes, better ask. We dont want to cut the day short!

Mroz, when was the first night that you had in game? n2 or n3? We only had a report of an RB on Olly n3 so I'm wondering if the consort is one of the replacements.

I will do you one better:
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=67253&p=2182073#p2182073

Mroz4k > Multiuniverse.
VucubCaquix > Leyva45.
Fenraiser > theyellowgreninja.
tfiosforevah > OctoOoze

Thats a list of all the replacements that came along with me. I did get my rolecard during the Night 2, my D3 presence was shit because I literally had exam on exam on exam back then.

[Mroz4k]

dammit I did the arrows the wrong way -.-

[glhf3]

Just make sure that at least ONE of them is at L-1 or L-2!

But DONT hammer, and dont vote if you are not sure about the votes, better ask. We dont want to cut the day short!

Mroz, when was the first night that you had in game? n2 or n3? We only had a report of an RB on Olly n3 so I'm wondering if the consort is one of the replacements.

I will do you one better:
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=67253&p=2182073#p2182073

Mroz4k > Multiuniverse.
VucubCaquix > Leyva45.
Fenraiser > theyellowgreninja.
tfiosforevah > OctoOoze

Thats a list of all the replacements that came along with me. I did get my rolecard during the Night 2, my D3 presence was shit because I literally had exam on exam on exam back then.

Cool, thanks. Still, it's odd. We got reports of a RB n1 and n3 but not n2. Why is that?

[Mroz4k]

That was a moot point anyways, Id expect that Mafia can puppeteer actions of their inactive scum buddies in the night, I have never been in a game when Mafia members would skip using their abilities.

[glhf3]

That was a moot point anyways, Id expect that Mafia can puppeteer actions of their inactive scum buddies in the night, I have never been in a game when Mafia members would skip using their abilities.

Is that so? Good to know. This is my first Forum Mafia game so I had no idea.

[Mroz4k]

And, if there were no roleblocks N1, chances were that the Consort carried out the faction kill - its pretty common for normal Mafia too, that Consorts end up using the kill while other mafia members focus on more important abilities beforehand.

That was a moot point anyways, Id expect that Mafia can puppeteer actions of their inactive scum buddies in the night, I have never been in a game when Mafia members would skip using their abilities.

Is that so? Good to know. This is my first Forum Mafia game so I had no idea.

Yea, thats how it works. There are usually inactives on both Town sides and Mafia sides, but Mafia not using their ability is a huge hinderance, and can usually signal Town to the identity of the inactive Mafia, thats why most games have a rule that allows Mafia to puppet actions of their fellow Mafs.

Sometimes its just a secondary ability of Mafia head - but in either case, I have never seen a game when Mafia wouldnt have some sort of puppeteering ability.

[Mroz4k]

Now, I need to know: is someone going to go away and not come back before the Day ends?

Because if so, then they need to have a vote placed, and I would encourage to place that vote on Schultz for now, in case we decide to switch over to Schultz lynch.

[Mroz4k]

Does anyone have ANY idea how we can pull this shit off?

I am trying to figure out a way to enslave Schultz and force him to do something predictable, in which case we would be better off lynch Vucub, rather then Schultz.

I have already came to a conclusion that Schultz will probably be a bit better lynch, but honestly, in the end it might be okay in either case.

[Mroz4k]

AAAAAA I have never been so much on fence! I know it deep down in my gut that this choice, whom we lynch, is going to be important in determining whether we win or not!

So... no pressure or anything...

[glhf3]

Does anyone have ANY idea how we can pull this shit off?

I am trying to figure out a way to enslave Schultz and force him to do something predictable, in which case we would be better off lynch Vucub, rather then Schultz.

I have already came to a conclusion that Schultz will probably be a bit better lynch, but honestly, in the end it might be okay in either case.

The plan with Vucub seems to be to do a quickhammer of Schultz the next day before ITA. The day will end if we can get majority immediately for lynch. So far, I'm leaning towards a Vucub lynch simply because we don't know WHICH rebel role she is while it's pretty obvious which role Schultz is and if we can't get majority on an obvious scum like Schultz, we're pretty screwed regardless.

[PokemonKidRyan]

/Move Schultz

[glhf3]

/Move Schultz

err...do you mean vote?

[Mroz4k]

I am about 80% sure that Vucub is not the Mafia NPC controller. I am about 90% sure that Vucub is either Mafia Consort or Doctor, and about 70% more inclined to believe Consort.

Schultz is an issue to me - has ITA immunity AND ITA special shots? I cant shake a feeling that these are abilities of two Mafia roles, that he is being protected, which would make Vucub the naturally immune - but if thats the case, then Schultz also might have some other Mafia abilities, and depending on what that is, he might actually be a better lynch.

I am trying to figure out a way to chain Schultz´s action so that we can predict it at least, which would give us a minor advantage over the Mafia. I think we can force Schultz to go into Michael tommorow, which is something Michael should survive for one stage. This might give us a slight advantage if we lynch Vucub now and Schultz tommorow.

At the same time, we can lynch Schultz now, and Mafia is almost surely going to go for Michael, which means we can at least predict the scum kill this way.

I think I am more inclined to lynch Vucub now and take a chance at Schultz.