VFM11 | TOWN WINS | DOMINATION

[xUltiix]

Wow I certainly have the towniest wagon

[TrueGent]

You know being on the same wagon as team shitter is never a good sign

[TrueGent]

Someone convince me to vote Ulti whilst I go and make more rolecards

[xUltiix]

You know being on the same wagon as team shitter is never a good sign

You arent voting me though

Someone convince me to vote Ulti whilst I go and make more rolecards

Good luck with that
Manipulation

[Stri]

Don't have a lot of time, it's 1 am here and I have to get up at 5:30, but here's a short one.

Spoiler:

@Understood Gent is town because he is contributing and feels town to me

He town reads you

I would probably prefer an awesome lynch today over anyone else, almost his entire iso is dicking around.

Expresses intent to lynch his top scum read awesome, yet never makes a serious push, doesn't even vote him.

Truegent/Elbmuh is very likely to be TvS
Understood/TheParanoidAndroid is extremely unlikely to be S/S
Understood/TrueGent is extremely unlikely to be S/S

Calls you and Elbmuh TvS, doesn't push Elbmuh at all, even though you were one of his strongest town reads. I call him out on this and this is his defense:

@Stri My NFM meta is different from my meta in other games and also before pushing one of {Elbmuh, Gent} I would like to see the other flip town first even though I was TRing gent as both are players that are capable at seeming town as scum
"Was" because my reads are being changed

{xUltiix}
{Fenraiser, TeamMystic}
{Murat, Schultz}
{Null}
{James, Understood}
{awesome}

Surprise, he suddenly changed his reads and isn't town reading you anymore. Neither is he talking about elbmuh. How convenient.

As I said I am very confident that elb/gent is TvS so I think a lynch on one of them today would be best.
I am still somewhat townreading gent so I prefer to /vote Elbmuh

What happened to waiting for one of them to flip town? Also, he is suddenly town reading you again.

You know being on the same wagon as team shitter is never a good sign

You arent voting me though

Someone convince me to vote Ulti whilst I go and make more rolecards

Good luck with that
Manipulation

Don't like this post much either. He calls the two people on his wagon "team shitter". Understood and I certainly haven't been shitters this game. Also don't like the #care attitude in this post.

It might not be much, but it certainly is better than murat imo. Him saying he doesn't want to do elbmuh/Gent because he wants to wait until one of you flips town, to only a bit later say the opposite is enough reason to put him on the block imo.

[TrueGent]

yeah ok this is good I think

[UNDERSTOOD12345]

I honestly prefer Elbmuh to be lynched today and go for understood if he flips mafia

That's very scummy thing to say. How would you like to say that if Elbmuh flips town we should go for Mystic because you are aggresively pushing?

[TrueGent]

/vote Ulti
still ok with cop checking within those 4

[chitownmvp01]

Current Vote Count

Player	Votes	Voters
	#	Votes Until Majority

[UNDERSTOOD12345]

What? lol

[chitownmvp01]

VC has been fixed.

[UNDERSTOOD12345]

I honestly prefer Elbmuh to be lynched today and go for understood if he flips mafia

That's very scummy thing to say. How would you like to say that if Elbmuh flips town we should go for Mystic because you are aggresively pushing?

This reaction is half the reason I want to lynch you. The entire day you and Elbmuh have been sucking each other's dicks. I feel like you two are partnered together.

Well, I could say the same thing about you and utilix (I won't).

Besides, if I was scum, it's possible we would act like each other but I would guess that we woulden't. This isn't my first game and it certaintly isn't Elbmuh's, so we would not be so obvious


Anyway, pre flip analysis is scummy in all ways no matter what the situationm- one of the reasons I am scumreading Utilix now. Don't make me start on you!

[Fenraiser]

I honestly prefer Elbmuh to be lynched today and go for understood if he flips mafia

That's very scummy thing to say. How would you like to say that if Elbmuh flips town we should go for Mystic because you are aggresively pushing?

This reaction is half the reason I want to lynch you. The entire day you and Elbmuh have been sucking each other's dicks. I feel like you two are partnered together.

Well, I could say the same thing about you and utilix (I won't).

Besides, if I was scum, it's possible we would act like each other but I would guess that we woulden't. This isn't my first game and it certaintly isn't Elbmuh's, so we would not be so obvious :)


Anyway, pre flip analysis is scummy in all ways no matter what the situationm- one of the reasons I am scumreading Utilix now. Don't make me start on you!

Pre-flip analysis?

[UNDERSTOOD12345]

It means saying someone is TvT or TvS or SvS or this person is scum if this flips town, or whatever.

It basically is an easy way for scum to set up conflict.

Say you are scum and you know A and B are both town,c alling them TvS means a vig could shoot the other, etc.


FEnraiser, you ask a LOT of questions. Would you mind giving some concerete ideas of your own?

[UNDERSTOOD12345]

What? What posts have I made that makes me look like I'm associated with Ulti? Just wondering.

Well, the fact that you think they are scum but are not voting them, and the actual LACK of connection between him (no communication at all so far?) can actually be a connection.

But I don't think you are scumbuddies, I was more doing this to prove why pre flip anslysis is bad

[UNDERSTOOD12345]

I don't understand what TPA is saying- can you expplain TPA?

Tpa, do you have thoughts on Utilix?

[awesome5000]

i think xUltiix is scum

Truegent/Elbmuh is very likely to be TvS
Understood/TheParanoidAndroid is extremely unlikely to be S/S
Understood/TrueGent is extremely unlikely to be S/S

doesn't explain

@Stri My NFM meta is different from my meta in other games and also before pushing one of {Elbmuh, Gent} I would like to see the other flip town first even though I was TRing gent as both are players that are capable at seeming town as scum
"Was" because my reads are being changed

{xUltiix}
{Fenraiser, TeamMystic}
{Murat, Schultz}
{Null}
{James, Understood}
{awesome}

are you scum? there's like no opinion on a shitload of players, i don't see how you can have just a null read on a bunch of people like TPA, you didn't even explain at all, seems like you BS'ed this shit

TeamMystic: probably town, but asked me for reads, which may indicate that he will say my reads are shit and then push me, which all scum loves to do, as it has been done in some previous games I've played. So... Town for now, but depending on his actions after my reads...

Scum are not the only ones that push people though. Town pushes people all the time. It doesn't benefit scum, it helps the game progress.

the people who push me are usually scum.

Not like this.

it's true.
TFM37 (k1llthestory)
11G (Jordarrian, EvilDeanius)
NFM35(xUltiix, Olly)

People pushing you can be scum or town, town dont know whether you are town or scum.
However scum 100% know you arent one of them so they could push you for that if they deem you easy MLbait

are you saying this so that you have an excuse to put me at the bottom of every read list? and you never actively push me



/vote xUltiix

[TheCow]

What is plurality?

The player with the most votes is lynched if time runs out and the number of votes required for majority isn't reached. RNG would break ties. Plurality is disabled for this game, so in order to lynch in this game, you must get all the votes required for majority to be reached.

What

I'm pretty sure it was the first voted to the majority number of votes

It's either. I'm a fan of rng, personally.

[awesome5000]

What is plurality?

The player with the most votes is lynched if time runs out and the number of votes required for majority isn't reached. RNG would break ties. Plurality is disabled for this game, so in order to lynch in this game, you must get all the votes required for majority to be reached.

What

I'm pretty sure it was the first voted to the majority number of votes

It's either. I'm a fan of rng, personally.

imao
in the greatest FM game ever it was RNG

[murat1996]

The murat vote looks good to me. His tone is off grin what ice seen of him.

Off grin??? How does that even make sense?

[murat1996]

i dont really care anymore lol

That's a lame response.

shut up

like to note that my wagon is heavily scum motivated so sick

Real mature on that response towards me.

And if ur wagon is scum motivated, then who of the ppl voting u currently is the scum?

[chitownmvp01]

Current Vote Count

Player	Votes	Voters
	#	Votes Until Majority

Plurality is disgusting

Yay! Someone agrees with me!

[UNDERSTOOD12345]

I just want to say that my scumbuzzer is going off wildly for Utilix if that is helping anyone

[murat1996]

Ree murat is going full lucky and its making me want to hammer the fuck out of him

I feel like that this is a poor correlation.

[UNDERSTOOD12345]

No, it's actually hurting the case. Please stop.

I think my reads are pretty good, their not THAT bad that me being on a wagon would discourage people from joining.

What's your problem?