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[deferentsheep]

I'm not so sure about TrueGent being town after reading his ISO. There are places where his view on Kirize is unclear, his whole play feels disjointed but I think that's because he isn't explaining himself.

This felt town but it somehow develops into wanting Kirize vigged (and scum would know there was no vigilante) rather than lynched.

[deferentsheep]

There was a lot of beating a dead horse yesterday
Basically all the responses to moonbird were pointless

Sure

[deferentsheep]

Kirize is likely scum for that overreaction

Don't like hulk jumping in to stop the Kirize wagon then just strangely backing off


/vote Kirize

No more votes on kirize. He is at L-3. If you want to vote him, type this

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[b]Intent to vote Kirize[/b]

I found his "vote to PL" scummy, so I drew a conclusion and backed it up, like I always do.

(._. )

/unvote

Why did you unvote here?

[deferentsheep]

Yeah, ElusiveBelle is pretty shady too.

I'd like him to post reads

[deferentsheep]

stop trying to guess all the scum at once just play the game normally

[TrueGent]

Holy shot people are voting Short
Its a Christmas miracle

[TrueGent]

I'm not so sure about TrueGent being town after reading his ISO. There are places where his view on Kirize is unclear, his whole play feels disjointed but I think that's because he isn't explaining himself.

This felt town but it somehow develops into wanting Kirize vigged (and scum would know there was no vigilante) rather than lynched.

The vig post was a meme
Would have lynched Kirize if push came to shove but I thought Short was more likely to flip scum overall because I legitimately couldn't tell if Kirize was just being dumb

[PurpleSidewalk1]

Still think Jacko > S0me0ne

Read S0me0ne's ISO and tell me why he is town. I can't find fuck all.

I'm not so sure about TrueGent being town after reading his ISO. There are places where his view on Kirize is unclear, his whole play feels disjointed but I think that's because he isn't explaining himself.

If Shortcut flips town I am willing to consider Gent as scum, but he has pressed Mafia and only Mafia IMO. The fact that Gent's contribution to the scumteam would be non-existent makes me think he must be town. Even if he isn't then I would love the chance for him to just lead us to his other scum mate, please give us your secrets TrueGent, scum master!

I am still about Elusive being mafia

I see no reason why he isn't, and I see no reason why he is. Whereas I see reasons why others are scum. Reasons for being scum is more meaningful than no reason for not being scum.

@JackoDerp

I'm waging on a Shortcut/S0me0ne/Ramer Scumteam here.

Will not vote anyone outside of these three

Could you please explain why you read ramer as scum above Elusive, teamalex, and cmitc. I actually need to know because I am incapable of reading ramer.

[ShortcutButton]

/vote Jacko

I'm a cit.

No we cannot hammer.

[ShortcutButton]

pushing vars wagon, yes. I'm kinda sheeping him ngl

[ShortcutButton]

great content

[PurpleSidewalk1]

Ramer and teamalex are inactive, cmitc and Elusive seem a bit confident.
And I sort of felt that out of the 4 I could see Ramer most likely to be Mafia.

I have in my notes that alex and S0me0ne are not scum together so I am going to trust myself and eliminate alex off the bat. However, I don't understand why cmitc and Elusive get a free ticket, and I certainly don't understand why ramer is the most likely to be Mafia out of the 4. I just want to understand your thought process between the two lines above.

Btw it is S0me0ne and Shortcut for fucking sure that is set in stone at this point. IMO

[PurpleSidewalk1]

Purple i am not really sure why alex and someone can't be scum together?

Ugh!!! I don't want to find it, but I guess I will. Give me a bit.

In the meantime, can everyone please read from here to here and watch cmitc's play very carefully then tell me honestly that you aren't convinced he is scum.





Oh you aren't convinced? Read it again. This time look at the interaction between cmitc and Shortcut. Look at how Shortcut played it then watch cmitc play it in the exact same way.

[ShortcutButton]

/vote notleyva

Can we get a VC?

[Tiltedcomedian]

VC incoming

[S0me0ne23]

Gent gf
leyva goon
def goon
shortcut town lean
var town lean

I'm pretty sure I can't stop the vote on shortcut, but it doesn't make sense to me how shortcut is scum.

[Tiltedcomedian]

Current Vote Count

Player	Votes	Voters
	#	Votes Until Majority

mb please no smite Torque

[PurpleSidewalk1]

Purple i am not really sure why alex and someone can't be scum together?

Ugh!!! I don't want to find it, but I guess I will. Give me a bit.

Can't find it. I am so fucking confused. It was the very first thing on my list of notes which means it was apparent from the beginning without much digging. I don't understand. It isn't a part of S0me0ne's ISO though. It might have been something that Shortcut or moon said I will look at that angle.

Gent gf
leyva goon
def goon
shortcut town lean
var town lean

I'm pretty sure I can't stop the vote on shortcut, but it doesn't make sense to me how shortcut is scum.

#scumclaim

@purple I can see the cmitc read, but I gut think that Elusive is town.

How? Elusive isn't even trying. I don't know how to read someone who is basically prodging, but is actually a good player.

[S0me0ne23]

Gent gf
leyva goon
def goon
shortcut town lean
var town lean

I'm pretty sure I can't stop the vote on shortcut, but it doesn't make sense to me how shortcut is scum.

we have no gf
right now i wonder if he pretends or he really missed it
the reads are generally all bad

Mb, I missed that consig was both in 1 and F. Scratch that, then

[PurpleSidewalk1]

Is it just me or are the mafia who are caught trying to convince us that Varanus is Mafia with them? If this is some "ingenious plan" then I fucking know Elusive is town because this didn't come from a logical, intelligent mind lol.

Purple i am not really sure why alex and someone can't be scum together?

Ugh!!! I don't want to find it, but I guess I will. Give me a bit.

Can't find it. I am so fucking confused. It was the very first thing on my list of notes which means it was apparent from the beginning without much digging. I don't understand. It isn't a part of S0me0ne's ISO though. It might have been something that Shortcut or moon said I will look at that angle.

I guess it's this?

anyway, I am not liking the lack of actually doing stuff in Alex's Ios right now, so until something better shows up /vote Alex

No. I didn't find that until later and I would actually consider that indicative of a cmitc-alex connection considering cmitc had a "gut read" on him that he never pushed as a wagon at all. In fact he was looking for a wagon to start that wasn't on alex.

[Tiltedcomedian]

He and his breadstick are two different votes.

Current Vote Count

Player	Votes	Voters
	#	Votes Until Majority

mb please no smite Torque

[S0me0ne23]

Still don't think Shortcut would've voted Murat if he was scum.

[TrueGent]

Anyone voting Jacko needs to rethink many things

[TrueGent]

Oh wait Short is scum :^)

[TrueGent]

Guys the only way leyva could know Kirize was scum would be if leyva was also scum which means leyva must have bussed Kirize XDD