[Newcomer FM] NFM13 | Game Over: Lucky 13

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[Newcomer FM] NFM13 | Game Over: Lucky 13

Postby Invenio » Fri Mar 18, 2016 1:59 pm

Newcomer Forum Mafia


Please read the rules below fully.

General Rules:

  1. Be respectful. Should be self-explanatory. No tolerance against racial/homophobic/sexist remarks. If you feel this rule isn't being followed, send the moderator in question a PM.
  2. Do not discuss the game outside of the thread unless otherwise stated. If you have a question about this, ask the mod.
  3. Do not quote any messages from / conversations with the moderator. If you have a question about this, ask the mod.
  4. Do not gamethrow. "Gamethrowing" means actively trying to undermine your, or your faction's, chances of winning.
  5. If you are inactive for more than 36 hours, you will receive a prod, and have 18 hours to reply. If you do not reply within 18 hours, you will be removed. However if your posts are found to not actually try to include content to futher the game, they will not count towards resetting the prod timer. Said content is evaluated under the moderator's discretion. You will be told if your post is valid or not.
  6. Quoting and then editing another player's post for the purpose of misleading is prohibited. Editing to simply cut down the post content to what is relevant is allowed.
  7. Any breaking of the above rules will be treated on a case by case basis - some will receive a warning, while others might result in higher punishment.
  8. Be sure to look at ObiWan's Rules for more info, some of the rolecards that will be used and the ECO if you don't know how a situation is handled.
  9. Lastly, If you have any questions, feel free to ask the moderator. We'll be glad to answer any doubts you may have.


Joining-specific rules:
  • Joining this game is done so through a queue. As the queue is filled up, a new game will begin after the previous one has ended. Each game will have at least 8-9 "newer" players and at least 2-3 "experienced" players.
  • Newer vs Experienced players will be decided under the moderator's discretion.
  • The Newbie Games do not count against your maximum game count. Any substitutes will be experienced players only, so that newer members can fully experience a game from start to finish.
  • A "newbie" classifies someone new to FM who doesn't have quite the hang of the game yet, or just someone new to the "mafia" genre in general. Experience from other forums may carry over.
  • You must have played in two (2) games or less to be considered a newcomer, barring a few cases. Any more than that, you will have to be invited by the mod after PM'ing them.
  • Any new player that dies on Night 1, will be put on the top of waiting list automatically for the next game.

Features:
  • A gamemode specifically made as a starting point for new players, with a couple of mod-invited experienced players. They'd still be playing to win, but also to guide the newer players and to keep a ToS FM style flow.
  • A queue-based signups.
  • D1 FAQ (FM etymology, mechanics explanation, general FM introduction, etc.)
  • Player-by-player in-depth reviews post game, aiming towards improving each player's skill level.

Unused roles:
Spoiler: Mayor, Lawyer, Jailor, Retributionist, Transporter, Spy
Godfather, Prankster, Agent
Neutral Benigns, Jester, Executioner, Bomber, Neutral Killings


Vigilante Role Card Change
Spoiler: Vigilante

You are a Vigilante.

Your alignment is Town Killing.

You believe that the law of this town is useless against the evil-doers in your town and have decided to take matters into your own hands.

Each night you may decide to shoot and kill one town member you believe to be evil.
However, if the person you shoot turns out to be Town, you will be overcome with grief and vow never to shoot again.
You only have 3 bullets, allowing you to perform your night action up to 3 times. Make them count.
You may not shoot on the first night.

You win with the Town
You win with Survivors
You must kill the Mafia
You must kill Arsonists
You must kill Witches
You must kill Serial Killers
You must kill Stalkers
You must kill Bombers
You may spare anyone else


Investigation Results:

Spoiler: Your target is very skilled in their line of work. They must be an Sheriff, Investigator, or Consigliere!
Your target is familiar with death. They must be a Medium, Doctor or Janitor!
Your target has a disruptive presence. They must be an Escort, Marshal or Consort!
Your target watches others closely. They must be a Lookout or Blackmailer!
Your target is very full of themselves. They must be a Bodyguard, Disguiser or Witch!
Your target owns guns. They must be a Vigilante, Veteran or Mafioso!
Your target is involved with deception. They must be a Framer!
Your target is an ordinary townsfolk. They must be a Citizen!


Sheriff Results
Spoiler: Your target is Not Suspicious. (Non-mafia)
Your target is Suspicious! (Mafia member or framed)



Rolelist:
Spoiler: Town Investigative
Town Protective
Town Killing
Random Town
Random Town
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen


Mafioso OR Janitor OR Consigliere
Consigliere OR Framer OR Consort
Blackmailer OR Disguiser OR Mafioso

Witch

No whispers. Only one Citizen may roll in Random Town and a Town Killing cannot roll in Random Town.
Only 1 Mafioso will be allowed to roll, if there is one.



Players:
  1. Jackoderp
  2. TheChosenOne095
  3. Vader4587
  4. Kirahicks Heretoplay
  5. Alyxie
  6. Cmitc1
  7. Chilly1234
  8. Pokemonkidryan
  9. mmss5joker IAmAMunchlax - IC
  10. Rickdaily12 - IC
  11. Leyva45 - IC
  12. Shortcutbutton - IC Arcthurus - IC
  13. Alzar - IC

(Bolded names means the player has confirmed their spot.)

Graveyard:
Alyxie (Doctor), N1, Shot by Veteran and Mafia.
TheChosenOne (Escort), D2, Lynched.
Cmitc1 (Citizen), N2, Shot by the Mafia.

ISO's:
Spoiler:
  1. Jackoderp
  2. TheChosenOne095
  3. Vader4587
  4. Kirahicks Heretoplay
  5. Alyxie
  6. Cmitc1
  7. Chilly1234
  8. PokemonKidRyan
  9. mmss5joker IAmAMunchlax
  10. Rickdaily12
  11. Leyva45
  12. Shortcutbutton Arcthurus
  13. Alzar
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7C Consort, 7E Retributionist, SFM10 Platinum the Trinity,
TFM14 Serialstalkerarsofathervigimayor, 8A Escort
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM13 | Setup Phase

Postby Invenio » Sat Mar 19, 2016 5:46 pm

Introduction and mechanics.

First of all, welcome to the tenth NFM game. Some of you have already played before, while others are brand new, so I'll try to keep this simple.
Forum Mafia, or FM in short, is a game about deception between the two main factions: The uninformed majority (town) and the informed minority (mafia), with, most of the time, a third-party (neutrals) trying to fufill their own goals along the way. Logic, mind games, etc. are all part and usual of mafia.

Town and Mafia both have pretty straight-foward win conditions: eliminate the opposite team, and all neutrals with a night killing ability (Neutral Killings*). While the mafia has the opportunity to kill periodically, the town cannot rely on their own killing roles to win the game - for that, they must vote to kill a player by "lynch".
*Note: There are no Neutral Killings in this current game, due to the lower amount of players.

The game is divided in two phases: the Day, and the Night.

  • The former is when the players post on the gamethread, discussing about what happened during the night, other players and who should be voted for the lynch. This is also when Whispers* are sent. The first day lasts 24 hours but no lynchs occur during it. The following days last 120 hours (5 real-life days) and lynches are allowed, these which will occur after the majority has been reached. To vote, just post "/vote PlayerNameExample". When a player is lynched, they are killed and removed from the game, with their role and last will (if they have one) being shown to public.
  • The latter is a 48-hour period where any player who has a night action may use it (unless jailed). **During this phase the Mafia privately talks on their mafia chat. After the 48 hours are over, all actions are carried out, and the personal results of this phase shall be privately messaged (PM'd) to each player.

*Note: There are no whispers present in this game.
**Note: Day chat is currently allowed. Mafia does not have day chat in regular games, unless a role in play specifically states otherwise.


The game will only end once one of the major factions (or a NK) fufills their condition.

PM Protocols
When sending me the information below, make sure one of the following is in the subject line:
"NFM Last Will" for Last Wills.
"NFM Death Note" for Death Notes.
"NFM Night Action" for Night Actions.

Mafia Tactical is in play: Meaning - Any member of the Mafia may sacrifice their night action to make the factional kill at night.
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Terminology.

General terms:

Role Card: The PM which contains the player's role, alignment and abilities.
Game Throwing: Playing against your win condition with the intent of making your own faction lose.
Hard Claim: Directly stating one's own role on the game thread.
Soft Claim: Hinting one's role without explicity stating it.
Counter Claim (CC): Making a claim which directly contradicts someone else's. E.g Player A hardclaims Citizen, but Player B is a Lookout who saw them visiting, so they hardclaim and bring up their evidence.
Fake Claim: Claiming a role which is not their own's. E.g When a mafia member is demanded to hardclaim, they almost always fakeclaim instead.
Scum/Scummy: Scum is the name given to any role which doesn't win with town, and needs to be eliminated for town's win condition. Being scummy means adopting a behaviour which doesn't line up with the behaviour expected from a town member.
Confirmed: Being 100% confirmed as a certain [role]/[alignment].
No Lynch: Instead of voting for a player, you may also "/vote No Lynch". If majority reaches on a No Lynch, no player is killed. A No Lynch will also occur when the amount of time for the Day phase is over and majority hasn't been reached. No Lynching is, the majority of the time, benefitial to scum, so aiming towards it is generally scummy.
Reads/Reading: The read you have on a player is the conclusion about their alignment and/or role through their posts or other factors.
WIFOM: WIFOM is the circular reasoning that results from trying to determine the choices of an opponent who acted with full knowledge that their behavior would be subject to scrutiny.
Mislynch: An incorrect lynch on a town member.
Tunneling: Solely focusing on a player and their posts, ignoring others. Often considered scummy.
Last Will: A personal "diary", per see, in which the player may choose to write whatever they consider relevant. Automatically revealed upon death.

Slightly more uncommon terms:

FoS - Finger of Suspicion. Putting the Finger of Suspicion onto a player means that one is calling that player scummy and saying that other players should keep an eye on that player. [Alt. Hand of Suspicion (HoS)]
LyLo - Lynch or Lose. A stage in the game where town must lynch scum or they lose. See also: MyLo.
MyLo - Mislynch and Lose. A stage in the game where if town mislynches (lynches town) and the Mafia make a kill town loses.
PoE - Process of Elimination.
OMGUS - "oh my god you suck". An acronym used to describe retaliatory actions such as votes. Ex: voting a player because they voted you citing the reason "because they are stupid".
PbPA - Post by Post Analysis. Analyzing a player's posts in succession, typically associated with ISO.
ISO - Isolation. Looking at a player's total posts in a game, in succession.
IC - Inexperienced Challenged. A term used to describe the experienced players who sign up for NFMs as representatives.

For a more complete list, feel free to look here.

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Playing as Town

While Mafia can talk strategy during the night (and in the case of this game, during the day), the town needs to use the day phase to discuss and figure out who is and isn't town as well. What can you do, then?
Try to progress discussion in a fashion which will be benefitial to the town, try to look for posts that feel scummy, ask and answer questions other players have made, try to see which intentions a player has behind their posts, be active and post reads regularly. Avoid plays which could benefit scum instead (e.g Hardclaiming for no reason, fakeclaiming), and try your best to think for yourself - it's a common mistake to follow blindly whatever other players have to say.

And be sure to read ObiWan's guide about playing as Citizen.

Playing as Mafia

As scum, you should play exactly like you would as town - be active, post reads, try to look productive, etc. The difference here are your goals: Hiding information, misleading the town and stalling out long enough until they no longer outnumber you. This means appearing as scum-hunting, but in actuality pushing for a mislynch by questioning, false reading and trying to depict a player as scum. However, keep in mind that if a teammate is acting undeniably scummy and their lynch looks like the right call, try not to oppose it too obviously - or it could be tracked back to you.
And remember: you are a team, and thus communication is essential. Try to talk over every situation so you can plan in advance.

Playing as Neutral

Witch is the only neutral available to roll. Their goal and play style is a mix between that of the Town and Mafia. They want to be actively hunting scum and trying to figure out who they win with and who they don't, applying one of the best night actions in the game accordingly; either to get into contact or to severely hinder. However they do not want to be getting scum lynched themselves, so they also have to play similar to the Mafia in the regard that they do want the town to be successful. Above all they need to look out for number 1; themselves.


Golden Rules:
Don't claim Neutral.
Don't be inactive.
Remember what your goals are at all times.
Don't panic if you commit a mistake, but try to work your way around it.
Have fun. It's a game, after all.

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For anything else, feel free to ask me, the experienced players and/or take a look at the FM Main Hub.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM13 | Setup Phase

Postby Invenio » Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:46 pm

Having trouble filling up that last spot. One replacement left then we can begin.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM13 | Setup Phase

Postby Invenio » Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:18 pm


Day 1 Begins!

After what seemed like forever, the members of the town had finished moving in. Everyone turned to greet each other, unknowing that some of them held a knife behind their backs while shaking hands. A murderous plot was about to unfold...

The thread is now open for discussion.
Dawn of the 1st day. 24 hours remain.
Day 1 will end on 3/25, 3:20pm CST.
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TFM14 Serialstalkerarsofathervigimayor, 8A Escort
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM13 | Day One | Rough Start

Postby Lexiam » Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:22 pm

First! lets have fun!

oh add a countdown clock invenio
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM13 | Day One | Rough Start

Postby PokemonKidRyan » Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:22 pm

I made it in the final spot.

Hey guys, good luck, have fun and learn lots :)

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM13 | Day One | Rough Start

Postby Invenio » Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:26 pm

Clock and guide added. Have fun!
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM13 | Day One | Rough Start

Postby Alzar » Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:28 pm

I-In our defence, the pauses don't usually go for so long, we promise! unless it's an iggy game kek
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM13 | Day One | Rough Start

Postby Lexiam » Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:28 pm

yay... gonna wait till everyone checks in and im gonna be back in a couple hours
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM13 | Day One | Rough Start

Postby Invenio » Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:29 pm

There shouldn't be another pause like that.... replacement hell is over for now.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM13 | Day One | Rough Start

Postby mmss5joker » Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:31 pm

Alright, good luck guys
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM13 | Day One | Rough Start

Postby Alzar » Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:33 pm

Checking in usually doesn't matter when there isn't really anything to check in about, really. The whole "I'll wait until everyone checks in" doesn't really matter for anything other than night results.

Anyway, hi. I'm Alzar (this should be obvious) and I'm an IC in this game (which should also be obvious).
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM13 | Day One | Rough Start

Postby Lexiam » Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:36 pm

fair point, but im waiting for everyone to post for some reason.....

my brain tells me to do pointless things like killing off joker in nfm11
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM13 | Day One | Rough Start

Postby Alzar » Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:37 pm

Not familiar with any recent NFMs, sorry. They all sort of blend together after a while.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM13 | Day One | Rough Start

Postby Lexiam » Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:41 pm

basically what happened is we lynched joker and kotkowski in nfm11 and they turned out to be town. thats the big reason why town lost
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM13 | Day One | Rough Start

Postby Alzar » Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:43 pm

Yeah, mislynches happen. They're a near unavoidable fact in FM in general, but if it happens then you should just pick yourself up and learn why they were mislynched and who was the reason for them being mislynched.

Predicting at least one huge argument between me and Rick over the validity of nolynching as a tactic.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM13 | Day One | Rough Start

Postby PokemonKidRyan » Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:45 pm

Alzar wrote:Yeah, mislynches happen. They're a near unavoidable fact in FM in general, but if it happens then you should just pick yourself up and learn why they were mislynched and who was the reason for them being mislynched.

Predicting at least one huge argument between me and Rick over the validity of nolynching as a tactic.

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM13 | Day One | Rough Start

Postby Lexiam » Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:46 pm

i did learned so many things though. anyway back on point, this is nfm13, so this is my second game of forum mafia and hope we all have fun and enjoy ourselves
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM13 | Day One | Rough Start

Postby TheChosenOne095 » Thu Mar 24, 2016 3:09 pm

Hello everybody, this is my second FM game. Rick, Alyxie good to see you again.
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Spoiler: FM Record:

NFM 10- Doctor -Win
NFM 13-Escort-Draw (Game canned)
NFM 15- Escort -Win
NFM 18-Investigator-Defeat
CFM 16-Crystal-Defeat
10B-Investigator-Win
NFM22-Prankster-Win



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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM13 | Day One | Rough Start

Postby ShortcutButton » Thu Mar 24, 2016 3:15 pm

Hello friends

To kick things off what amount of FM experience do you guys have, on- and off-sight?

I've played in like 15 games here, and a few games on MS (which I always end up replacing out of because those games are b o r i n g). Not the best but maybe this could be a learning experience for me as well as you guys.

Keep in mind I'll be on vacation in San Diego until this sunday. Still should be able to kind of post though.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM13 | Day One | Rough Start

Postby PokemonKidRyan » Thu Mar 24, 2016 3:18 pm

ShortcutButton wrote:Hello friends

To kick things off what amount of FM experience do you guys have, on- and off-sight?

I've played in like 15 games here, and a few games on MS (which I always end up replacing out of because those games are b o r i n g). Not the best but maybe this could be a learning experience for me as well as you guys.

Keep in mind I'll be on vacation in San Diego until this sunday. Still should be able to kind of post though.

I have played in around 5/6 so far.
This is like 6/7
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My alts were EdwardMidford and TsuchiyaTenaka. I apologise profusely for being bad and hiding behind them. I ask for forgiveness but know that won't be a simple feat. Please stop bringing up my past, as I'm striving towards a new future. I just sometimes struggle to show that I truly want said change.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM13 | Day One | Rough Start

Postby Lexiam » Thu Mar 24, 2016 3:19 pm

thanks for the warning....

i only played 1 fm game, thats my experience, and didnt see other threads for fm
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM13 | Day One | Rough Start

Postby Chilly1234 » Thu Mar 24, 2016 3:23 pm

Hi guys, this is my first game :D
I am the master of knowing somethings you may not know. And come get help from me if you need it.

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM13 | Day One | Rough Start

Postby PokemonKidRyan » Thu Mar 24, 2016 3:26 pm

Chilly1234 wrote:Hi guys, this is my first game :D

Good luck :D
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My alts were EdwardMidford and TsuchiyaTenaka. I apologise profusely for being bad and hiding behind them. I ask for forgiveness but know that won't be a simple feat. Please stop bringing up my past, as I'm striving towards a new future. I just sometimes struggle to show that I truly want said change.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM13 | Day One | Rough Start

Postby Chilly1234 » Thu Mar 24, 2016 3:26 pm

PokemonKidRyan wrote:
Chilly1234 wrote:Hi guys, this is my first game :D

Good luck :D


Thank you
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Spoiler: NFM13 - Framer - Draw
9C - Arsonist - lost
NFM15 - Lookout - Won
NFM26 - Vigilante - loss
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