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Re: 9B | Day One

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:24 pm
by EvilDeanius0
ItsmeCreature wrote:
Elastoid wrote:
ItsmeCreature wrote:I won't even bother with James2. If he's scum, he'll be smashed by the PoE.

Since there's Witch, it's now everybody's problem.

If there's an escort/marshal, the witch will be just wasting their time.

And if there isn't?

Re: 9B | Day One

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:24 pm
by teamalex
Since James would have to deal with a possible CC in the future, I would cross him out of the NK/Mafia list, since that's suicide. It could be a ridiculous Witch/Bomber gambit still perhaps.

Re: 9B | Day One

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:26 pm
by Elastoid
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1OaHnaSlq1v
Jesus, James:

Chances of an Escort OR Marshal: about 92%.

Chances of a Witch: 100%

Just roll those dice, I guess. Worst case scenario you fuck town over but at least you didn't get mislynched.

Re: 9B | Day One

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:27 pm
by TrueGent
James is town
The Witch is going to have to deal with potential Lookouts, Marshals and Escorts in order to control James, a lot of risk for someone that loses on death.

Also, any Escort claims that dont RB James tonight are being lynched on sight.

Re: 9B | Day One

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:28 pm
by ItsmeCreature
EvilDeanius0 wrote:
ItsmeCreature wrote:
Elastoid wrote:Since there's Witch, it's now everybody's problem.

If there's an escort/marshal, the witch will be just wasting their time.

And if there isn't?

Then we hope witch controls James2 to shoot a mafia member and we make a safety lynch.

Re: 9B | Day One

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:32 pm
by Varanus
Elastoid wrote:http://vocaroo.com/i/s1OaHnaSlq1v
Jesus, James:

Chances of an Escort OR Marshal: about 92%.

Chances of a Witch: 100%

Just roll those dice, I guess. Worst case scenario you fuck town over but at least you didn't get mislynched.

You aren't calculating for if there's both an escort AND a marshal, as the marshal would spook the escort off. Not to mention there are other mafia roles that can take priority over the witch.

James2 wrote:
Elastoid wrote:Likely he's vetbaiting and you're killing our Escort. As well as anyone controlled onto him.


You must be scum, town wouldn't point out a vetbait. I'm going to shoot you night two unless you give a good defense.

(And no people, I'm not a veteran).

Do you not know ANYTHING about how any of the neutrals in this game work? There's this thing called a "Bomber" that would just love for you to say who's going to die.
Eliah1102 wrote:
teamalex wrote: Right now, I'm going to assume James is the Vigilante and incredibly dumb. We need everyone on him to avoid a murder. I repeat, everyone.

If there is a BM we are basically giving mafia a target list but atleast an escort should be on him.

Umm... What? How?

Re: 9B | Day One

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:34 pm
by TrueGent
oh shit Bomber is a thing
yeah James stop being retarded

Re: 9B | Day One

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:34 pm
by ItsmeCreature
Eliah1102 wrote:
teamalex wrote: Right now, I'm going to assume James is the Vigilante and incredibly dumb. We need everyone on him to avoid a murder. I repeat, everyone.

If there is a BM we are basically giving mafia a target list but atleast an escort should be on him. Likewise if there is a lookout we can potentially gain valuable info.

Or we can tell the lookouts/escorts/marshals/whatever to not visit James2 and let him alert, putting the witch into a WIFOM game.

Re: 9B | Day One

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:35 pm
by EvilDeanius0
TrueGent wrote:oh shit Bomber is a thing
yeah James stop being retarded

Little bit late tbh

Re: 9B | Day One

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:36 pm
by James2
TrueGent wrote:Escort would be scared away.


Ok then.

Only marshals visit me. Escorts do not visit, as you would just be providing cover for a witch.

Varanus wrote:
Eliah1102 wrote:Did it ever occur to you that James could be someone other than Vig or Vet?

After [REDACTED ONGOING GAME]?
Of course I thought about it. It's a stupid play no matter what he is.


Stop that.

Varanus wrote:Do you not know ANYTHING about how any of the neutrals in this game work? There's this thing called a "Bomber" that would just love for you to say who's going to die.


Put a lookout on Elastoid night two. Easy Bomber lynch.

Re: 9B | Day One

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:38 pm
by James2
Elastoid, I still want a defense from you.

Actually, since you're probably mafia, I'm demanding a hardclaim from you today, before you can talk with your teammates. If you don't claim until tomorrow, after your mafia buddies could advise you, I'll shoot you anyway.

Re: 9B | Day One

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:38 pm
by ItsmeCreature
Still excited for a "Surprise!" veteran.

Re: 9B | Day One

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:38 pm
by TrueGent
Creature, James claimed not-Vet.

Pedit: James do you have mental issues?
1. Escort is a lot more likely than Marshal, an Escort should RB you if anything
2. Bomber fuses last for 2 nights stop being dumb

PEDIT2: JAMES SHUT UP
YOU CLAIMED VIG D1 IN A GAME WITH A CONFIRMED WITCH AND BOMBER
FITE ME

Re: 9B | Day One

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:39 pm
by EvilDeanius0
James2 wrote:
Varanus wrote:Do you not know ANYTHING about how any of the neutrals in this game work? There's this thing called a "Bomber" that would just love for you to say who's going to die.


Put a lookout on Elastoid night two. Easy Bomber lynch.

Bomber's fuses last 2 nights. They could place the fuse tonight and you would light it tomorrow. And we can't have a lookout watch him tonight because they have to watch you for the witch.

Re: 9B | Day One

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:39 pm
by Varanus
James2 wrote:
TrueGent wrote:Escort would be scared away.


Ok then.

Only marshals visit me. Escorts do not visit, as you would just be providing cover for a witch.

Varanus wrote:
Eliah1102 wrote:Did it ever occur to you that James could be someone other than Vig or Vet?

After [REDACTED ONGOING GAME]?
Of course I thought about it. It's a stupid play no matter what he is.


Stop that.

Varanus wrote:Do you not know ANYTHING about how any of the neutrals in this game work? There's this thing called a "Bomber" that would just love for you to say who's going to die.


Put a lookout on Elastoid night two. Easy Bomber lynch.

1: What if there isn't a Marshal?
2: DO YOU EVEN KNOW HOW BOMBER WORKS?

Pedit: TrueGent, I take back everything I've ever said about you in purgatory. You up for a drink later?

Re: 9B | Day One

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:40 pm
by ItsmeCreature
James2 wrote:Elastoid, I still want a defense from you.

Actually, since you're probably mafia, I'm demanding a hardclaim from you today, before you can talk with your teammates. If you don't claim until tomorrow, after your mafia buddies could advise you, I'll shoot you anyway.



Re: 9B | Day One

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:40 pm
by teamalex
Just ignore James right now, he might be town but he sure isn't thinking right.

We're not massclaiming Day 1.

Re: 9B | Day One

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:41 pm
by TrueGent
Varanus wrote:Pedit: TrueGent, I take back everything I've ever said about you in purgatory. You up for a drink later?

I dont even know what you have said about me but sure

Pedit: "might be town"
do you think James has the balls to do this as scum?

Re: 9B | Day One

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:42 pm
by Elastoid
James, you're clearly not thinking. Please, for the love of the Donald, take a breath and think before you speak.

You forgot (didn't know?) that the Witch could control you N1. You forget (don't know?) that the Bomber can fuse me n1 and it'll last if you shoot me n2. You forgot (didn't know?) that your being MAYBE mislynched would be less a disaster for Town than your being controlled to shoot a target, and you just ensured that as long as you and the Witch are still alive, you have to be 100% of what town focuses on right now.

Please slow down. You can't take your posts back, so try not to go all crazy. At least make sure you have the mechanics right before you start trying to make town plans for everyone.

Re: 9B | Day One

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:43 pm
by ItsmeCreature
TrueGent wrote:Creature, James claimed not-Vet.


Image

Re: 9B | Day One

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:44 pm
by PersianRugs
James is town, waiting to be mislynched like other games.
God, james is worse as cow.

Re: 9B | Day One

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:45 pm
by Varanus
Anybody want to play table tennis with me?
Spoiler: Image

Re: 9B | Day One

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:46 pm
by ItsmeCreature
Detemmienation wrote:WIFOM games work better when you don't say it's a WIFOM game


You're underestaming the witch.

Re: 9B | Day One

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:46 pm
by ItsmeCreature
ItsmeCreature wrote:
Detemmienation wrote:WIFOM games work better when you don't say it's a WIFOM game


You're underestimating the witch.

Re: 9B | Day One

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:47 pm
by Elastoid
James2 wrote:Elastoid, I still want a defense from you.

Actually, since you're probably mafia, I'm demanding a hardclaim from you today, before you can talk with your teammates. If you don't claim until tomorrow, after your mafia buddies could advise you, I'll shoot you anyway.

I'm not sure here, but I'm pretty sure mafia can have daychat? Is that in the rules, or how would we know?

I'm not hardclaiming. I'm not sorry that you're mad at me for acknowledging the possibility that you were Vet. If you are still alive and kill capable by Day 2 it's because everyone on town exercised every miracle in their power to cover for your shitty play.

You want a defense for my arguing you might be Veteran? I don't want town to die. I care more about the outcome of the game than I do about a potential mislynch. So here's hoping that we DO have an Escort so they can continue to save us all from your bad play, whether or not the Witch chooses to target you (and at this point, knowing you're already planning to shoot me, why would a Witch waste her time with you?).