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Can you quote that 1st point about Sam?

Day 3 was over before 9C started I think.

SamuelJackson1972 wrote:But after looking at how much James started pushing Jord with a fallacy, I knew that no amount of logic or claiming would change their mind, and I wasn't about to be shot as well, so I gave up.
So at this point, I was pretty pissed, I decided to check for other games James was in, and stumbled upon 9C.
In 9C he claimed vet at the start of the day, then claimed cit later on, I didn't question why he did this, I just decided to ignore the plans involving him in a major role.

9C started on the 14th. Including James's claim I think.

Moleland wrote:Eliah is only scum if I'm not If Eliah is GF

So if you're scum, Alex is scum pretty much guaranteed, and if you're town, Alex is probably scum unless Eliah is the GF and Poly is scum.

No.

9C D1 started 9 hours after Day 3 ended.

Now I have to really go though.

Elastoid wrote:

Moleland wrote:Eliah is only scum if I'm not If Eliah is GF

So if you're scum, Alex is scum pretty much guaranteed, and if you're town, Alex is probably scum unless Eliah is the GF and Poly is scum.

I'd say it was Sam/Moon/Poly or you myself

But I really don't know for the moment. I need to think.

Would you lynch Poly at this point?

I don't think so... I'm leaning more on a no lynch. I don't think mafia would kill me

An additional day would mean I could check one more person

Moleland wrote:I don't think so...

Good answer.

Then Let them kill me. Then you can lynch Sam.

Mafia plan: nolynch today, kill Sam, we lynch Moleland, we're in the same boat as we would be if we lynch Moleland, except now with an extra kill?

Like, lynch Moleland plan ends with us waking up with Sam dead and trying to piece it together. If we nolynch then lynch Mole, then we wake up with dead Sam and dead me? Taylor? and try to piece it together requiring one less town vote.

/speculation

I'm almost ready to sign off on a Moleland/Teamalex/Eliah mafia.

Teamalex and Eliah both pushed on each other, could be distancing.

Yeah, Mole's right, I didn't alert last night because I've already used all of my alerts.
I used my first one N1 because of idiocy/rage, N2 killed Varanus, and N4 because I believed, after looking over the mis-lynch and True's behavior there and throughout the game, that they were the godfather and I wanted to take measures myself to lynch them.
*sigh* I hate this game.
I was hoping if Moleland was in the mafia they would have killed Sam.

taylork2 wrote:Yeah, Mole's right, I didn't alert last night because I've already used all of my alerts.
I used my first one N1 because of idiocy/rage, N2 killed Varanus, and N4 because I believed, after looking over the mis-lynch and True's behavior there and throughout the game, that they were the godfather and I wanted to take measures myself to lynch them.
*sigh* I hate this game.
I was hoping if Moleland was in the mafia they would have killed Sam.

Yeah here's the thing -- your last will the other night made it sort of clear you thought you were going to be killed. It made me think you might be out of alerts.

Mafia could come to the same conclusion.

Teamalex has been pretty logical and methodical -- I can see him figuring that out and coaching Moleland.

Elastoid wrote:

taylork2 wrote:Yeah, Mole's right, I didn't alert last night because I've already used all of my alerts.
I used my first one N1 because of idiocy/rage, N2 killed Varanus, and N4 because I believed, after looking over the mis-lynch and True's behavior there and throughout the game, that they were the godfather and I wanted to take measures myself to lynch them.
*sigh* I hate this game.
I was hoping if Moleland was in the mafia they would have killed Sam.

Yeah here's the thing -- your last will the other night made it sort of clear you thought you were going to be killed. It made me think you might be out of alerts.

Mafia could come to the same conclusion.

Teamalex has been pretty logical and methodical -- I can see him figuring that out and coaching Moleland.

I realize that could be the case.
Welp either way the play of Mole/Sam is terrible for whichever one is town.

But I think we should no-lynch today.
If Moleland is mafia, then the maf are going to kill Samuel the night after we lynch him, we need more invest results.
And without results against anyone else, I'm uncertain of any lynch to be 100% maf atm.

Well if you want to nolynch then we're going to -- it'll take all 5 town to get a correct lynch.

Tomorrow it'll take four town to get a lynch and only one mistake for a mislynch. Keep that in mind.

Elastoid wrote:Mafia plan: nolynch today, kill Sam, we lynch Moleland, we're in the same boat as we would be if we lynch Moleland, except now with an extra kill?

Like, lynch Moleland plan ends with us waking up with Sam dead and trying to piece it together. If we nolynch then lynch Mole, then we wake up with dead Sam and dead me? Taylor? and try to piece it together requiring one less town vote.

/speculation

Mylo. We are in mylo

And headdesk

Great. Just great. I wasted my night for even more stupid reasons than I thought *Cries*

First off, glad SK is out of the way. There are 5 town members left, 3 mafia members. Moon was super into lynching me then switched to Jord.We should lynche either him or Eliah today unless something pops up.

PolyesterHomes wrote:First off, glad SK is out of the way. There are 5 town members left, 3 mafia members. Moon was super into lynching me then switched to Jord.We should lynche either him or Eliah today unless something pops up.

Poly, you're remembering it wrong. YOU were super into lynching Jord. Moonbird was not on that wagon.

moonbird wrote:... So Poly, we're going to ignore the fact that I was adamantly against the Jord lynch the entire day. And then, as a resultant of the kill, read you as town post-Jord lynch.

Okay.

I confused you and Mole.
Sorry.

Okay, here's my problem with a nolynch. I'm going to throw this out there.

My current townreads are Sam, moonbird and Poly (to go with taylor and myself). We need literally all five town on board with a lynch in order for it to happen.

Taylor has admitted his reads aren't the best this game, particularly since virtually every town member has done something scum-indicative.
Poly has lately sheeped taylor's reads, since taylor is confirmed town I guess.
Moonbird was convinced that Sam must be scum. She also had/has taylor convinced she's scum. She's still convinced Poly is potential scum.

Consider this -- if we no lynch, then tomorrow, all it will take is ONE bad vote, and then scum will hammer and the game is lost. That's it. This town is like herding cats.

A town member will die, and then we've got THREE consecutive lylo days to look forward to. For towns with a game plan, I'm fine with that, but you can't find three people who all agree on the same lynch targets. That means we probably can't herd all the cats.

Mylo is reducing the mafia's vote potential. They can only hammer someone with two votes on them. That makes this way safer. More, the usual advantage of lylo vs mylo is FEWER MISLYNCH TARGETS, but in this instance, we have only 1 mislynch target -- either Sam or Moleland.

Currently, Sam and Moleland are pushing each other (well, Sam's pushing Moleland, and Moleland's pushing moonbird I guess). There are six of us besides those two. Four of us are town, and the other two are scum.

If we wait until tomorrow, there will be five of us besides those two. Three of us will be town, and two will be scum. What supposed "check" from either of them will change your mind? Probably nothing. We'll be in worse shape if we wait. Two people already know how they're going to try to vote.

My plan? Each of us chooses a side -- Sam or Moleland. We don't vote, but we make which side we're on perfectly clear. Then, we present whatever evidence we can. We discuss which side seems most likely. We carefully analyze all the facts we can.

Then, we make our best guess when there are four town guessing. If it cuts 3/3, then we know that one town is wrong, and thank GOD we didn't wait for lylo, because that one town being wrong WOULD have cost us the game.

Finally, because scum will possibly be willing to bus their PR claim, it may well cut 6/0 or 5/1 one way, which means the earlier you vote, the more disadvantageous if you're scum. Taylor is confirmed and should vote last. He should ALSO choose the order in which we take sides, because he knows whom he suspects the most.

Eliah1102 wrote:I am on mole's side, as I explained earlier there is no way mafia would kill true if mole was one of them.

Don't take a side until taylor tells you to. Don't want mafia sheeping.

Just had a thought

Assume Sam is the Consig for now and didn't find the SK until Night 4
Assume Moon is the GF who was attacked (But doesn't receive or give out the healed message because of immunity)

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GF receives all mafia night results, which would mean the Godfather would know that tilted was the SK because her Consig had found out that night for her.

Just a thought.

Argument in favour of a no-lunch

Sam and I both only have 3 people left to check

Sam can check Moon, Team or Elastoid (Checking moon is pointless as they will be Cit/GF)
I can check Team, Poly, Elastoid

Bare in mind that for things to make sense from Sam's perspective, At least one of Team/Elastoid is scum and is the other mafia member. If sam returns the result of Cit/GF on who he checks then he immediately declares the other person as scum (Which, since Sam is mafia, would mean he was framing a town member). In short, Sam would have to confirm himself as scum to a town person in order to keep his claim believable.

Myself having an extra night as the sheriff can actually mean I eliminate one more person from the scum suspect list before I die.

In short...

Sam's perspective

GF: Eliah (Or Poly, or moon, or Elastoid, or Alex)
Maftac: Elastoid or Team
Consig: Me

My perspective:

GF: Moon (Or poly, or team, or elastoid, or Eliah [Screw you if you are GF. Ugh])
Maftac: Poly or Team or Elastoid
Consig: Sam.