9B (SP) | Spilled Drink | Game Over (Town Wins)

[TrueGent]

Persian was Witch so I don't see them exploiting a complex network of telepathy to vote in sync, no.

I don't think potential BM messages equal telepathy Elastoid.

One BM message was used on Rhazh.

That leaves two messages remaining (assuming none were used intra-mafia) to coordinate with Persian... you find this plausible?

One on Rhazh
One on Persian to ask if he's Witch
One on Jord to tell him Persian is a teammate
I don't see an issue here

[EvilDeanius0]

I slept peacefully.

Well there goes my Varanus is GF theory, but at least the bomber's gone.

[ItsmeCreature]

Slept peacefully.

[Moleland]

Anyways, apparently people aren't updating their wills/creating them in the first place. T_T

Yeah everyone should be doing that. Leyva's will might have been useful.

Still, naught we can do about it now.

And KOE, he investigated Moonbird, but didn't leave what their result was.

Maybe they were a town slot?

I slept peacefully

[Elastoid]

One on Rhazh
One on Persian to ask if he's Witch
One on Jord to tell him Persian is a teammate
I don't see an issue here

Timeline checks out, as well. Could easily coincide with his hard-defending Persian.

So if you could lynch right now, whom would you lynch?

[TrueGent]

If Jord gets a CC, probably them
I'd have to think more about other lynch targets, but people like Creature and ED are probably up there somewhere

[EvilDeanius0]

I like the idea of an Eliah or Poly lynch.

[ItsmeCreature]

Does anyone think Creature voting with Persian and Jord means anything?

Also Jord is probably scum tbhhhh

Jordarrian is leaning town for me, his point on you was correct. How do you explain this? I didn't like how teamalex responded to Jordarrian.

[ItsmeCreature]

So if you could lynch right now, whom would you lynch?

teamalex

[TrueGent]

There is nothing to explain Creature.
You can stop defending your scumbuddy now. :^)

[Elastoid]

Does anyone think Creature voting with Persian and Jord means anything?

Also Jord is probably scum tbhhhh

Jordarrian is leaning town for me, his point on you was correct. How do you explain this? I didn't like how teamalex responded to Jordarrian.

http://blankmediagames.com/phpbb/viewto ... 0#p1192206

I feel like I responded to that pretty well, and you're not doing yourself favors jumping up to defend Jord and to agree with his clearly shitty reasoning.

Jord twice took things Gent said that clearly WEREN'T attempts to get lynches going and construed them as "pushing a mislynch." Maybe he's too dumb to read sarcasm, but are you?

[SamuelJackson1972]

One on Rhazh
One on Persian to ask if he's Witch
One on Jord to tell him Persian is a teammate
I don't see an issue here

Well, given how the blackmailer was smart enough to leave a question very short to avoid being able to be tracked, he could have done this.

[Elastoid]

One on Rhazh
One on Persian to ask if he's Witch
One on Jord to tell him Persian is a teammate
I don't see an issue here

Shit I just saw the issue.

Message to Persian would have been something like "Witch?" Persian's response would have been something like "Yes." How would Persian know who to sheep with?

I mean, do you think the mafia were following his lead? That seems... unlikely.

We'd need one more message.

[TrueGent]

IIRC Jord sheeped Persian on his on me, so I think it would still work Elastoid

[TrueGent]

IIRC Jord sheeped Persian on his read on me, so I think it would still work Elastoid

[James2]

Jordarrian is leaning town for me

Ok good. We've now outed two mafia members.

One on Rhazh
One on Persian to ask if he's Witch
One on Jord to tell him Persian is a teammate
I don't see an issue here

Shit I just saw the issue.

Message to Persian would have been something like "Witch?" Persian's response would have been something like "Yes." How would Persian know who to sheep with?

I mean, do you think the mafia were following his lead? That seems... unlikely.

We'd need one more message.

1. Rhazh could have lied, I doubt it but it's possible.
2. Bmer could have signaled Jord without using a message.

[James2]

And ffs, the real TP shouldn't CC Jord. Jord confirmed himself as scum with his role card slip, there's no point in outing yet another power role.

[Elastoid]

So if I were a planning man (OHSHIT I AM I FORGOT), the plan I like the best would be:

-- use day to collect claims and information (should go without saying), then:
-- lynch one of our suspected mafia gang (ideally Creature before Jord because less consequence for wrongness)
-- if lynch flips mafia, James should shoot suspected scumbuddy
-- if lynch flips town, James should shoot TrueGent
-- ask protective to be on me, so that way James is discouraged from wasting a shot on me.

P-edit:

I hate saying "James is right," but no CC is necessary against Jord right now.

[TrueGent]

-- if lynch flips town, James should shoot TrueGent

??
Explain.

[ItsmeCreature]

To be clear, I wasn't defending Jord. I felt worried how his case went forgotten like "oh his case sucks lets ignore it", specially with teamalex's reply.

It's not necessary to have Jordarrian lynched to see if we either take his case seriously or not.

[EvilDeanius0]

I'm more interested in finding the SK right now.

[Elastoid]

-- if lynch flips town, James should shoot TrueGent

??
Explain.

Well, a few reasons:

1) You claimed you were roleblocking James, but evidence has surfaced that leyva, in fact, was roleblocking James. Your claim would make sense if you were Vet baiting, but lo and behold, that was taylor, leaving your claim questionable at best (unless you're claiming a second Random Town slot).
2) My townread on you was largely giving you credit as a semiconfirmed Escort -- thus, that towncred is lost.
3)

3) TrueGent: There were so many players that could be placed here that were coming up as void, but I've decided to place True for the time being as he came up as team oriented to me which would either mean town or mafia, with questionable actions on top of that. True put much effort into making sure an Escort was on James for N1, stating reason to lynch any Escort in the future that did not do so for N1. Here is the questionable part though, his deliberate mention of roleblocking James right before N1 began. Now this was not done subtley, as he repeated it to make sure someone made note of it (and them made note of the person making note of it), while still asking for an escort on James in between repeating it, and then talking about the "Escort" the next day. No proper town sided roleblocker would have to reveal anything to just roleblock James, so True's actions seemed like fishing for other Escorts to possibly come forward. It could only mean that True may be a Consort, as a Consort would have no fear playing such a move. The only worry a true Escort would have is dying from the mafia, but a Consort wouldn't. An SK would not likely attack any Escort/Consort either, for fear of last wills outing them. A Witch would also have not much to gain in controlling a roleblocker, as they may impede scum kills. This play only makes sense if the roleblocker is mafia, and not town, hence my scumread.

It was the dying wish of the deceased that we hardcore examine your motives.
4) If you really are roleblock-capable, you could easily roleblock James to prevent the shot

[Elastoid]

I'm more interested in finding the SK right now.

I would LOVE to hear your opinion on Creature, and vice-versa.

[TrueGent]

I could claim rn and explain my motives if you want
My role should be obvious to scum at this point anyway

[taylork2]

I'm thinking we should do a mass claim, I'd like to hear everyone's thoughts on it.