9B (SP) | Spilled Drink | Game Over (Town Wins)

[teamalex]

If Jord is town ill kms

But are you doubting James' claim at this point?

[EvilDeanius0]

True, I agree that Jord is mafia, but we can get the SK tonight and save ourselves an extra death.

[Moleland]

I think poly should be our lynch

[teamalex]

I think poly should be our lynch

I disagree. Vote Eliah for freelo.

I'm be curious though, what is your stance on Poly and why?

[teamalex]

lol good english alex

[TrueGent]

True, I agree that Jord is mafia, but we can get the SK tonight and save ourselves an extra death.

or we could just lynch scum

[teamalex]

If Jord is town ill kms

But are you doubting James' claim at this point?

[TrueGent]

if James is town ill kms as well

[Moleland]

I think poly should be our lynch

I disagree. Vote Eliah for freelo.

I'm be curious though, what is your stance on Poly and why?

Poly has been scummy all game has done nothing and is now lurking. I think they will flip mafia personally.

[teamalex]

Heh. If you think he is scum, you would have made a case on him a long time ago and actually pressure him.

Anyways, what I'm saying is we can easily test Jord's claim tonight and we shouldn't lynch him today.

Pedit. Scummy =/= scum

Trust me, I've done that mistake already once. NFM 5.

[teamalex]

Eliah has made too many contradictions to be town.

[EvilDeanius0]

True, I agree that Jord is mafia, but we can get the SK tonight and save ourselves an extra death.

or we could just lynch scum

How is the SK not scum. True you cannot be this blind

[Moleland]

True, I agree that Jord is mafia, but we can get the SK tonight and save ourselves an extra death.

or we could just lynch scum

How is the SK not scum. True you cannot be this blind

Sk could Team, sam, rhaz, elastoid or true in my mind. The last 3 are just paranoia in my mind as well.

[TrueGent]

Lynching confirmed scum is better than potentially landing in LYLO tonight

[teamalex]

My actions would be complete fucking suicide as the Serial Killer.

Now lynch Eliah and shoot me if I'm wrong. Or lynch me, which ever you like.

[teamalex]

Eliah has made too many contradictions to be town.

I've seen Swords scumslip as spy, so... *shrug*

[ItsmeCreature]

Although, why can't we lynch the potential SK and shoot the marshal claim? If he's marshal, at least he get a chance to protect someone.

[EvilDeanius0]

Although, why can't we lynch the potential SK and shoot the marshal claim? If he's marshal, at least he get a chance to protect someone.

If James wasn't vig, I'd go for this.

[Elastoid]

Scumreads are as follows. This is all from memory, so I may miss some shit and then go "oh yeah." This is just my reasoning at present.

Inactivity:
Spoiler: I'm not sure how well you can link inactivity and scum. I consider this fairly weak as a tell, but it's there, and it makes a player harder to read. It's MORE a tell if I think we're capable of mislynching, and scum may feel we are.
SamuelJackson -- took over for an inactive slot, came in posting very little. Heavy on this tell
Creature -- posts briefly when at all
Moleland -- posts briefly when at all
Polyester -- extended periods of inactivity
Eliah -- extended periods of inactivity
Teamalex -- has posted the least of day 3 survivors.
James2 -- I suppose belongs on this list for his low contributions

Associations:
Spoiler: For example, I hard defended Rhazh. If Rhazh were to flip scum, I know I'd be under scrutiny. Obv I don't expect Rhazh to flip scum though.
JordxPersianRugs -- hard-defended Day 2, voted with him Day 2.
CreaturexJord -- hard-defended Day 3, voted with him Day 2.
teamalexxJord/Poly -- came in trying to lynch Eliah when wagon was elsewhere, COULD be a Jord/Poly association
there may be more I'm forgetting

Pushing an agenda over reads:
Spoiler: This is a subtle tell, because it has to do with the intent of a post. Basically, a post is designed to either coax out information, or coax agreement from others to push a lynch. Biggest problem with that is, sometimes they try to coax agreement for more pressure to get more information, so this is a judgment call every time.
TrueGent -- Rhazh focus initially seemed pushy/scummy. Feel it was info-driven.
teamalex -- high ratio of "lynch this person" posts in comparison to "tell me more about..." posts
EvilDeanius -- high ratio of pushing compared to questioning.
Jordarrian -- The crap with his Gent read saying he was "going back and forth." Seemed constructed to push an agenda (see below). He clearly went through the ISO, quoted everything that looked like a read out of context, and put it in a thread -- thus, he was looking for evidence of a predetermined narrative, rather than genuinely trying to find information.

Shitposting:
Spoiler: Especially in the absence of substantive contribution
Moleland -- Active day 1 until shit got real
Gent -- Shitposting is James-related which I excuse cause I did so myself
Jordarrian -- Day 1 Rifftrax without reads

What are you doing to logic?:
Spoiler: When someone's logic goes in ways no one else does, I have to conclude either they're retarded, or they have different information or a different wincon. Also used for inconsistency
Poly -- First, James is not acting like mafia, then he's not acting like town. Rhazh says what are you saying, Poly says "I'm saying he's Neutral don't twist my words you must be scum." Clings to Rhazh read for all of Day 2. Refuses to elaborate on James read for the rest of the game. Not like he didn't have time, not like he wasn't asked several times.
Jordarrian -- The crap with his Gent read saying he was "going back and forth." Took two instances where Gent was clearly not pushing a read (one angry suggestion of PL of James, one clearly sarcastic all caps response to James) and used them to show Gent was "all over the place." Taking quotes out of context to mean something they clearly don't is pretty fucking scummy.
Eliah -- I have on several occasions raised an eyebrow at Eliah, like his Day 1-2 PL push on James. Teamalex's ISO shows more.
moonbird -- Attacks James for wanting to kill town, but reads me as scum. Care to elaborate? Almost sounds like preparing a mislynch later.
Jordarrian -- Swapped feelings on PersianRugs late.
TrueGent -- I feel your read swapping was information-based, but I'd be remiss to not include it.
James2 -- Idiot read on me. The Investigator asked James, twice, "If Elastoid didn't say possible vetbait first, and someone else did, would you have scumread THEM?" James did not answer.

Possible scumslips:
Spoiler: Things said from mafia perspective
Jordarrian -- James can't be scum because he was roleblocked (and I know he must not be mafia)
moonbird -- Day 2, apologizes for focusing on SK and gives excuse (oh my god I just realized my post looks mafia please don't catch me)
Jordarrian AGAIN -- Marshal only stops killing roles right? I don't know I deleted my rolecard

This post is getting long so I'll not belabor why I'm townreading people. There are people on this list who, because of their general productivity, I don't consider likely scum.

Overall reads:
Jordarrian seems most scummy. If he's scum, I'd expect one of Creature and/or teamalex to be scum with him. Jordarrian is registering high on all the scum signals -- inactive early, bad logic, pushing an agenda, scumslipping -- and is most likely scum. That said, his strong associatives make him most likely mafia, not SK, he has a plan to "prove himself," he's claimed a PR, and if he flips town (he won't) we learn less from his wagon because he's so scummy.
Polyester seems second-most scummy, and without strong associations. If we're looking for SK, I'd expect him or Eliah. I'm still leaning mafia on Poly and I'm not sure why -- when I type evidence on Poly I lean SK, but I was reading him as mafia before, so I probably forgot a subtle clue or something. I'll read up later and elaborate.
Eliah seems third-most scummy. I had him picked as possible SK day 1, because his nonsense seemed most chaotic. SK has a "you vs the world" wincon so I always found SKs to be the person most out there, and that's Eliah.
Creature seems fourth most scummy based on his strong association with the most scummy person.

Of the others, TrueGent, Rhazh and moonbird scare me -- they are the more experienced players who don't suck royally, so I'd expect to townread them either way. Thus, I'm always worried they're scum, just fearing the worst -- if they are, they'll be hardest to read. That said, I'm more looking at SamJackson, teamalex and Moleland, as I suspect activity may be a big tell when looking for SK (if we find SK, I don't expect inactive mafia). Teamalex MAY have an associative with Jord as well, if Eliah were to flip town (or even SK). Finally, given the existence now of a CC from taylor, I have to look oddly at James, as he's got a couple scumtells and he's claiming a Random Town slot. Sure, claiming Day 1 Vig as scum seems retarded, but so does literally every other post he has made the whole game, so I think "benefit of the doubt" doesn't apply here.

[taylork2]

Lynching confirmed scum is better than potentially landing in LYLO tonight

Yeah definitely this.

[RhazhBash]

EvilDeanius0
Jordarrian
PolyesterHomes
Eliah1102
Moeland
teamalex

These 6 are the people I think the last scum fall within. If we can get the right order to lynch these people in, we may be able to just plow through all of these people. I'm leaning less on Jord at this point, but I still think he's scum. Honestly I don't think Samuel or James are scum at this point. James isn't smart enough to play like this as scum and Samuel strikes me more as hesitant Town than scum. Does anyone else have any people to put on the list of possible scum?

[Moleland]

EvilDeanius0
Jordarrian
PolyesterHomes
Eliah1102
Moleland
teamalex

These 6 are the people I think the last scum fall within. If we can get the right order to lynch these people in, we may be able to just plow through all of these people. I'm leaning less on Jord at this point, but I still think he's scum. Honestly I don't think Samuel or James are scum at this point. James isn't smart enough to play like this as scum and Samuel strikes me more as hesitant Town than scum. Does anyone else have any people to put on the list of possible scum?

Corrected.

Also, what makes you think I'm scum? I'm curious.

In any event, if poly flips mafia (As I suspect he will) then Alex and Evil are looking like his mafia buddies.

/Vote Polyesterhomes

[ItsmeCreature]

/vote Polyester

[TrueGent]

>watches all the scum suspects hop on the poly wagon
Spoiler:

[PolyesterHomes]

>watches all the scum suspects hop on the poly wagon

I'm sensing a pattern here.
Maybe it's because I am indeed a town member and we shouldn't kill me, yes?