9B (SP) | Spilled Drink | Game Over (Town Wins)

[PolyesterHomes]

/unvote
Elastoid has been swinging his decisions a lot.
I think Eliah is mafia, hence unvoting. Don't want to lose this for town. Samuel is the last mafia member, as we know.
Overall, my reads point towards Eliah/Elastoid/Samuel team.

[PolyesterHomes]

Elastoid believed someone to be the SK as mentioned before and yet proceeded to vote up someone else. Eliah just seemed... scummy for some reason. Samuel is confirmed Mafia.

[teamalex]

Yes, moonbird.

[PolyesterHomes]

oh shit

holy shit

XD i'm dying right now

eliah

eliah child

don't you know that you aren't supposed to take wifom tests planned by your overlords as actual pushes

Pfft.
I assume you agree with my hypothesis then?

[teamalex]

But he would've known, that Samuel was pushing the SK the same day?

Also, why didn't you say anything when Elastoid had Poly as a member of the mafia?

[Elastoid]

Holy shit.

I go to work and come back and discover I was at L-1 without even a chance to address shit.

Taylor, your reasoning that "If Elastoid makes it to the final 3 as mafia he'll win" is probably true. That said, have you considered "Elastoid is probably town and if he's lynched we DEFINITELY LOSE?"

My picks for mafia are Eliah as GF and Poly as the random mafia. This is emphasized by their sheeping your vote (and probably messaging Sam to come hammer).

I will agree with a plan that involves killing them at this point.

[Elastoid]

At the VERY least, a lynch on ANYONE BUT SAM is retarded.

For me, the mafia are Sam, Poly and Eliah. Teamalex COULD be mafia over Poly, I'm not sure. But I am 100% sure on Sam being mafia.
Taylor, you're 100% on Sam being mafia, and you're pretty sure it's Eliah and ME with them.

Everyone else is 100% sure that Sam is mafia. We're in lylo and a lynch on Sam has 0% chance of being a mislynch. Why would you take any other lynch? Just to end the game faster? If the game ends faster it's because we lost -- if we were to lynch Eliah and be right, then we'd still have a living Sam to deal with. The only way the game ends faster is if Arc says "well mafia has achieved parity."

Jesus, taylor.

The ONE plan I'd go with as a compromise would be a Sam, Eliah plan, because that gets the two I'm sure of out of the way, and allows us to figure out the last one based on the remaining players. Mafia probably won't leave me alive too much longer, and at this point that's a good thing.

[teamalex]

I could've quickhammered you.

So that option that I'm scum and you're town is pretty much impossible.

[taylork2]

As I said, Poly is town, with the EXTREME pushing by Samuel, Eliah, and you(Elastoid) for their lynch earlier, and their near lynch, I'm 95% they're town.
If Poly was mafia, they would blow away every expectation I'd have for them with this level of coordination with their mafia team, and I would have the utmost respect for them at this point.

[teamalex]

Are you sure that moonbird is town, Taylor?

[taylork2]

Are you sure that moonbird is town, Taylor?

With both Moonbird and Eliah fighting for the Godfather spot pretty confident(85%), the reaction test post, etc, although I can go and check patterns for that specifically now.

[taylork2]

We see Moonbird and Elatoid voting Poly early Day 2 together.

Eliah joins the vote, Elastoid jumps off, Eliah jumps off

Absent from Day 3 votes

Day 4 Moonbird immidately votes Rhazh/Tilted, no one else

Day 5 Moon, Eliah, and Samuel are on the vote for Tilted

Day 6 Moon votes Mole

http://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=37874&sk=a&start=1475
Moon's relevant portion of ISO, while it is a close call between Moon and Eliah, I believe Eliah is the godfather.

[teamalex]

Aight.

I'll do some research myself in a bit.

[taylork2]

Kinda unfortunate, we have to be 100% accurate.

Town-Killing-Taylork2
Town-Citizen-Poly
Town-Citizen-Teamalex
Town-Citizen-Moonbird/Eliah

Mafia-Godfather-Moonbird/Eliah
Mafia-Support-Samuel
Mafia-Deception-Elastoid

But we HAVE to be 100% accurate, if we aren't then it doesn't matter how wrong we are.

[teamalex]

Mole/Sam investigate Elast tonight.

Also Eliah voted Elastoid at the start of the next day(Day 6?). What do you think about that? Genuine or distancing?

[taylork2]

Mole/Sam investigate Elast tonight.

Also Eliah voted Elastoid at the start of the next day(Day 6?). What do you think about that? Genuine or distancing?

I saw that too, one of the reasons I said close, Elastoid isn't bad(why the town's currently like this) could have been Elastoid telling him to distance.
However Elastoid hard defended Moon from my GF theory, if Elastoid brought up the healed claim and is mafia, then it's possible they could have coordinated the move beforehand.
Hmm, I may have to use the dreaded meta.

[taylork2]

Scratch that last line off, Evil flipped the day Moon claimed they were attacked/healed.
However it's possible for Elastoid to be covering for Moonbird with that bad decision.

[taylork2]

Holy shit I forgot, Deception died N1, meaning Elastoid would be in the Tactical spot with Blackmailer. That would vastly help their coordination.

[taylork2]

Alright, I've continued searching their ISO, and I think Moonbird's more likely town than Eliah is.

[teamalex]

This is so goddamn hard.

So you think Evil left the moonbird being healed stuff out intentionally?

[taylork2]

This is so goddamn hard.

So you think Evil left the moonbird being healed stuff out intentionally?

No.

[teamalex]

Accidentally?

[taylork2]

Accidentally?

If he did then yeah, however he updated his will the night afterwards and didn't include it.
If Moon was attacked, but was the godfather then neither the doctor nor the Godfather would have known they were attacked/healed(respectively), but we have Moon starting day post with Reaction test loading.

[teamalex]

But then again I don't see moonbird's reaction test useful if she actually was attacked and healed, because Rhazh would've known that. Her confidence about the SK read is also disturbing me. (might be misrepping here, on phone and I can't check)

Rhazh started scumreading her again D4, he didn't focus her at all D3 IIRC?

Tilted had her in his scumlist D5.

That's why I don't trust her, add Evil's will also to this.

I'll analyze Tilted/Rhazh more in a moment, this is just what I can remember.

[taylork2]

You know what, I've seen Elastoid hard defending Moon, the doctor die without Moon attacked in their will, Moon defend Elastoid initially today.
I'm going to have faith in my fallen comrades on this.

I think Moonbird is the godfather.

But then again I don't see moonbird's reaction test useful if she actually was attacked and healed, because Rhazh would've known that. Her confidence about the SK read is also disturbing me. (might be misrepping here, on phone and I can't check)

Rhazh started scumreading her again D4, he didn't focus her at all D3 IIRC?

Tilted had her in his scumlist D5.

That's why I don't trust her, add Evil's will also to this.

I'll analyze Tilted/Rhazh more in a moment, this is just what I can remember.

Yeah that was another big reason it didn't and still doesn't make any sense.