9B (SP) | Spilled Drink | Game Over (Town Wins)

[ItsmeCreature]

Why aren't you included in any team?

[taylork2]

/unvote I'm going to hold out on voting for now.
We have 24hrs, plently of time for me to vote.

[Elastoid]

Why aren't you included in any team?

That's fair. In the original post, I had my own associations stated separately (because I wasn't keeping track in my notes).

I'm against an EvilD lynch, I'm in favor of a Poly or Eliah lynch.

[taylork2]

I would lynch Mole before EvilD

Well ironically of the five people(that I checked) that were on the Samuel lynch, 2 of them were neutral scum, 2 of them were town, and the last one is Evil.

That could indicate Samuel is in the mafia, or Evil is in the mafia, or it means nothing.

/unvote

[SamuelJackson1972]

I wanna see if anyone else is gonna sheep vote me. I'm at like 3 or 4 votes atm?

I scumread you long before you were being voted, your point?

[taylork2]

Looking back at the votes for Samuel the two now confirmed town members both unvoted in favor of a Persian lynch.
....suspicions are arising.

[TrueGent]

So you think Sam is Mafia taylork?

[SamuelJackson1972]

Looking back at the votes for Samuel the two now confirmed town members both unvoted in favor of a Persian lynch.
....suspicions are arising.

Wait, I don't see how this is relevant.

[Moleland]

I'm ok for a sam or poly lynch

[SamuelJackson1972]

I'm ok for a sam or poly lynch

Mind elaborating on that?

[EvilDeanius0]

Ok, so I'm kinda tired and ill right now but I have a theory, and it explains why I think Poly might be town. I want to hear people's opinions on it:

Spoiler: The reasoning around the town-read revolves around the mafia kill on James. Working under the assumption that the mafia thought James was Vig (because I don't think anyone thought any different) and that he was going to shoot Poly, there would have been 3 outcomes:

- Poly is Immune (GF/maybe SK)
In this situation, the mafia probably would not have killed James. He would have put in his will that he was shooting Poly and he would have been confirmed scum. Scum are already down by 3 and losing another member to a lynch would have been a big hit.

- Poly is Town
In this case the mafia would have killed James. He would have had a death note confirming him as Vig and he wouldn't have been able to shoot anyone else, so he would have been a fairly safe kill.

- Poly is non-immune mafia
This case has 2 more separate outcomes. James again would have been a confirmed townie, but he would still have the ability to shoot. Which leads to the point of who would he choose to shoot? The obvious answers are either Rhazh or Elastoid. If James was going to shoot one of these two people, and they were both town, I think the mafia would have risked keeping him alive another night, hoping to get one of them shot. They could have also hoped that James would hold one of them hostage and get another mislynch like what happened with Jord.

So now I can see 4 possibilities. The first 2:

- Poly is GF/SK that they knew about
- Poly is mafia, Rhazh/Elastoid are both Town

In these 2 cases, I believe James would have been kept alive, so I'm kinda ruling them out. Which leaves:

- Poly is Town
- Poly is mafia, One or both of Rhazh/Elastoid is Scum

These 2 options would mean James would have been killed. Either they kill him after he shoots another townie, or they sacrifice Poly to save Rhazh/Elastoid, who would have been a lot less likely to be lynched. This leads to the conclusion, that if Poly is scum, one of Rhazh/Elastoid is also scum, and I just don't see either of them as scum.

TL;DR - I think Poly is Town because James' reads are shit.
I will accept "I'm reading too much into it" as a valid criticism.

[taylork2]

So you think Sam is Mafia taylork?

Actually the other way around considering 5 people voted for him, two people stopped(which we now know are both town, three people didn't(two of which we know are scum.
That's not looking good for Evil.

[Moleland]

I'm ok for a sam or poly lynch

Mind elaborating on that?

You are scum in my eyes

[taylork2]

Considering that two now confirmed scum voted for Samuel, I don't think he's scum.

Right now I'm here for our lynch.
Evil>Mole>Samuel>Poly

[EvilDeanius0]

So you think Sam is Mafia taylork?

Actually the other way around considering 5 people voted for him, two people stopped(which we now know are both town, three people didn't(two of which we know are scum.
That's not looking good for Evil.

My vote was on Persian for most of the time, I only took it off to pressure Sam into claiming. I stated that I was going to hammer but James beat me to it.

[RhazhBash]

Elastoid sorry if I wasn't making this clear but I'm not supporting a Poly lynch anymore and Moeland is a lynch I support. Catching up rn.

[Moleland]

This has become rather dead.

[Arcthurus]

Tiltedcomedian will be replacing RhazhBash.

[Moleland]

Welll... that was unexpected...

Tilted - can you give us opinions as soon as you catch up? Thanks

[TrueGent]

im not taylork
Poly>Mole>Sam>whothefuckknows,png

[Tiltedcomedian]

I'm feeling a little bit under the weather. Give me a few to finish up something I'm doing, then I'll catch up and suchlike.

[Tiltedcomedian]

OK

so

here's my thoughts.
Spoiler: Creature was questioned by CJ D1 and CJ died. Curious. Also curious that no one picked up on it that I saw (I skimmed to finish catching up faster).

Eliah is acting passive, a lot like how he did as Mafia in 8E.

mkim did basically nothing for all of D1, but Sam is Town (or possibly SK on a statistician's chance). He's acting differently from SFM 10.

moon wanted to lynch Eliah and Poly but now doesn't want to lynch Poly. Why?

Where is teamalex?

Creature scumread both TrueGent and teamalex but put rationale for scumreading TrueGent and not teamalex, and then started pushing Evildeanius and teamalex as Mafia. That looks like distancing to me.

Mole's naked statement that he was against a Jordarrian lynch raises my eyebrows a bit, but there are people scummier than him.

...And now Eliah is voting himself like in 8E. Yeah he's scum.

So I'd be most comfortable with an Eliah or Creature lynch. Eliah is pretty solid scum to me and Creature would give good info on True and team. After that it's a mess of connections with Mole-Jord and moon-Poly, and I'd need to see which way the game develops to get a feel for who goes in which scum slot.

[Tiltedcomedian]

does this post mean anything to anyone anymore

Tilted, we mislynch today--in about a day IRL, mind you--and we fall into LYLO. We don't have time for "seeing how the game develops" to get a feel for anything.

Who do you see as scum buddies with Eliah, if he's mafia as per your meta read?

In your POV, is Creature distancing Alex by bussing, or distancing Gent by placing a read and then not pursuing it?

Aside from Creature or Eliah, who are those "other scummier" than Mole?

*rolls in grave*

Evil, now that I'm at the compy, I'm going to glace through your post. Give me a few. I've already given my take on the Poly scenario and reached the same conclusion, so meh.

You're making a mountain out of a molehill, because you are assuming we are capable of mislynching today. There are clear scum here. I've presented my thoughts. To expand:

1) Eliah is scum. More likely Mafia than SK.
2) Creature and teamalex are probably scum. I believe Creature is half bussing team and half using Evil and team to divert attention from Eliah. If so, it may be that he is GF trying to hold his team together, but this is just a sheet anchor based on how I might expect a panicky or disintegrating Mafia team leader to act. That makes Eliah, Creature and teamalex the remaining Mafia from my point of view.
3) Holding the above thought for a moment, you and Mole are my leading candidates for SK. Admittedly my proof is a little bit weaker on these as I skimmed, but the most recent things I noted are Mole's statement on Jordarrian and your molehill conversion, which strikes me as a little asdf asdf pro-town contribution. It's giving me vibes that you're trying to walk a tightrope as far as timing, which the SK needs to do to balance Town and Mafia.

So. If we want to take a chance on cutting down the kills per night, I'd advise lynching you or Mole. However, we need to avoid LyLo (as you so kindly pointed out, thank you ), and therefore lynching nearly confirmed scum has my vote. As I stated previously.

Goodnight. I'm tired.

[PolyesterHomes]

You're making a mountain out of a molehill, because you are assuming we are capable of mislynching today. There are clear scum here. I've presented my thoughts. To expand:

1) Eliah is scum. More likely Mafia than SK.
2) Creature and teamalex are probably scum. I believe Creature is half bussing team and half using Evil and team to divert attention from Eliah. If so, it may be that he is GF trying to hold his team together, but this is just a sheet anchor based on how I might expect a panicky or disintegrating Mafia team leader to act. That makes Eliah, Creature and teamalex the remaining Mafia from my point of view.
3) Holding the above thought for a moment, you and Mole are my leading candidates for SK. Admittedly my proof is a little bit weaker on these as I skimmed, but the most recent things I noted are Mole's statement on Jordarrian and your molehill conversion, which strikes me as a little asdf asdf pro-town contribution. It's giving me vibes that you're trying to walk a tightrope as far as timing, which the SK needs to do to balance Town and Mafia.

So. If we want to take a chance on cutting down the kills per night, I'd advise lynching you or Mole. However, we need to avoid LyLo (as you so kindly pointed out, thank you ), and therefore lynching nearly confirmed scum has my vote. As I stated previously.

Goodnight. I'm tired.

Moons conclusion on me not being a Serial killer seems to me like he's a townie, even if WIFOM is taken into account, a Serial Killer would certainly prefer a lynch target to get lynched instead of taking a huge risk and potentially screwing himself over. If were going by your predictions, Moleand is a better lynch than Moon.

[SamuelJackson1972]

I'm ok for a sam or poly lynch

Mind elaborating on that?

You are scum in my eyes

Empty accusation.