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Swords was TOWN?

Fuck me. IDK anything anymore.

Assuming Cyantic was mafia (if he wasn't, it's game over already) that puts us at 3v1.

Much will be determined by asking Retral if he defended anyone last night. I don't want to go into what it would mean because if he's scum I don't want to influence his answer.

Actually, it makes more sense for deferent to be the one to hold off.

Most likely scenario in my mind is that deferent would be attacked, not Swords. If that's the case, deferent probably shot Swords, was probs defended by Retral, and will die as soon as the day ends.

If all that is the case, then we would expect Retral to claim he defended deferent and def to come out as a NGISV. This would lead to Neasans being the only one remaining who could be mafia.

The other possibility is that deferent ISN'T a NGISV, and the mafia attacked Swords, not def. If that were the case, I'd expect the person who paid the least attention to be scum, which would have me leaning towards Retral.

/vote Neasans

Just in case it becomes necessary to have voted early.

mmmmm cyan must have been mafia or else we would have been endgamed already by 2v2.

swords being town is legitimately retarded i can't even. the only reason he would be killed is to dodge protectives, i.e. retral who is town

neasans was clearly who cyan wanted to mislynch at mylo, i doubt bussing in that situation annnnnnnnnnnd that leaves us at

/vote elastoid

you played well tbh, better than cyan.

also i think i wasn't killed because the mafia assumed i didnt have multiple shots (i dont, that would be overpowered)

/vote Elastoid
You're top scum now.

Got roleblocked, btw.

Elastoid wrote:Actually, it makes more sense for deferent to be the one to hold off.

Most likely scenario in my mind is that deferent would be attacked, not Swords. If that's the case, deferent probably shot Swords, was probs defended by Retral, and will die as soon as the day ends.

If all that is the case, then we would expect Retral to claim he defended deferent and def to come out as a NGISV. This would lead to Neasans being the only one remaining who could be mafia.

The other possibility is that deferent ISN'T a NGISV, and the mafia attacked Swords, not def. If that were the case, I'd expect the person who paid the least attention to be scum, which would have me leaning towards Retral.

Wait, seriously? Did you just conveniently forget that Cyantic fakeclaimed and tried to get me mislynched on MyLo?

This honestly sounds to me like you're the last Mafia, since you aren't considering that detail.

/vote Elastoid

So there's no way to skip to night or something? We seem to be in agreement.

RetralMega wrote:Got roleblocked, btw.

BY WHOM?

Fucking lying ass motherfucker. Found our scum right here.

K so here's the deal -- I wasn't keen on assuming Retral was mafia because of the instantly voting Cyantic and staying on him the whole game, but I guess that could have been distancing.

There's no way Retral COULD have been roleblocked if we're 2v2. No one claimed a roleblocking role, so we'd be assuming the mafia simultaneously KILLED A GUY and roleblocked, which we've no reason to believe they could do.

Why even claim roleblocked if I were mafia and you were being lynched anyway?

RetralMega wrote:Why even claim roleblocked if I were mafia and you were being lynched anyway?

For the same reason you'd target Swords when he was going to be auto lynched? You're not very bright, and not paying a whole lot of attention?

Seriously, anyone else would have been auto win. We were all voting Swords next.

Let's assume for a moment that I'm mafia, though. Why would I target Swords, rather than deferent? Even if deferent lived through the night (according to your fake claim), that'd still be fine, because we'd immediately lynch Swords, then he and def would die at the same time.

No one has been roleblocked up to this point -- even after deferent asked for protection day 1 (thus would be an obv roleblock target). If the attack on Swords was "to avoid protectives," then obv a roleblock wouldn't come into play.

In other words, there is no version of reality in which you were roleblocked.

Neasans wrote:Wait, seriously? Did you just conveniently forget that Cyantic fakeclaimed and tried to get me mislynched on MyLo?

This honestly sounds to me like you're the last Mafia, since you aren't considering that detail.

/vote Elastoid

You're right, I honestly didn't consider that. I sort of tuned him out and started talking about Donald Trump.

Take the next 24 hours to consider the following

-- Why would I have targeted Swords instead of Deferent?
-- How could Retral possibly have been roleblocked?

Even if you were positing that I could kill AND roleblock, that would make killing Swords a GAME-LOSING PLAY, because I could just as easily kill deferent. Again, according to Retral, he was roleblocked -- thus mafia would know there was no protection. It doesn't add up.

You make absolutely no sense. I was roleblocked and if one of you confirms it, I'm proven as well as the one who roleblocked me.

Killing Swords should be considered gamethrowing for scum.

See, this is what I mean. No one claimed to have a roleblocking role. Neasans claimed stump, deferent claimed one-shot vig, and I'm Citizen.

If I'm scum, then I'm the one who roleblocked you... and then killed SWORDS? In order for you to have been roleblocked:

1) I would have to be a Consort who didn't roleblock deferent n1 (after he asked for protection)
2) I would have to be a Consort WHO COULD ATTACK THE SAME NIGHT. Not a common role, but I guess not unheard of
3) I would have to be a Consort who roleblocked the only protection AND THEN DIDN'T GO AFTER THE CONFIRMED TOWN in deferent. As you said, that'd be so dumb it'd be gamethrowing.

So... yeah. You 100% weren't roleblocked.

So def and I are both scum? You're voting me for being roleblocked. Why would I claim being roleblocked if I wasn't? What would I gain? It makes absolutely no sense unless this game was actually Bastard after all.

RetralMega wrote:So def and I are both scum? You're voting me for being roleblocked. Why would I claim being roleblocked if I wasn't? What would I gain? It makes absolutely no sense unless this game was actually Bastard after all.

No, def isn't scum. I'm not scum. There is only one scum. Turns out, it's you.

I'm voting you for CLAIMING roleblocked. Tell me, then, who roleblocked you. How does it make sense in your head?

I don't know. I was roleblocked. It doesn't say who, but I assume Naesans. I've had him read as Town since D1. He could have you know, lied about his role to avoid Mafia.

Spoiler:

Hades



The brother of Zeus, and owner of the Underworld, where he ruled the dead and accepted those who arrived. In rare occasions, Hades allowed living mortals to enter the underworld and then leave again. Even more rarely did Hades free the dead to return to the living.

(A) Hades' Gift - Each night, choose a player. If they're attacked, they will instead die at the end of the next Day phase. You are notified of this, but they are not.
(P) Ruler of Hell - You possess the above trait as a passive, meaning that if you are attacked at any time, you will survive one extra phase.

You win when all evil deities have been destroyed.

My rolecard.

Great.

Retral is modkilled. Good news at least is that it's 3v1 (now 2v1 if he didn't edit his rolecard) so I guess /vote Neasans

Well I was wrong and the game is over and I hate everything