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ok i found it n e v e r m in d

deferentsheep wrote:i honestly need more time to think about this shit, 3 of my scumreads flipped town fml

Cyantic wrote:Were both killed by titans? Arc, your flavortext is still unreadable. And if both were killed by titans, why the hell would you kill Met?

One-shot sheriff that cannot be protected (if protection exists) named Heimdall. Guilty on Neasans. On a side note, apparently it can be fooled. Don't know if that means there's a framer or what.

/vote Neasans regardless.

is heimdall some kind of god beucase i've never heard of that before

is "it can be fooled" part of the flavor of the character or ability (e.g. "you are a hime dall who can be fooled" or "you can check a player once and your check can be fooled").

do you think there's a framer?

fixed

Neasans wrote:hence why I've been meme'ing all game since either scum would be pissed enough to attack me or I'd be eventually voted up and become immune to being targeted by scum, while still being able to read and post normally, which would enable me to post my scumreads and do everything without the fear of any repercussions at all.

were you deliberately trying to get lynched by self-voting earlier?

Cyantic wrote:Conclusion is gonna be Elastoid/Neasans scum team

why elastoid of all people, he has been super obvious town imo

Missed Cy's claim.

I wonder what Oracle was supposed to be.

Anyway, I want to hear from Neasans what her ability supposedly does once she's dead, and I want to hear from def what he makes of whether Neasans would be that retarded to borderline gamethrow to get herself lynched, or if she's just been scum the whole time.

deferentsheep wrote:at the start of the night i got added to a quicktopic with some guy who was presumably the same person who sent the message to neasans since they were rhyming.

That's... odd. And unlikely to confirm Neasans's claim, since her claimed message supposedly occurred during the day.

That said, either she's scum, or she's town and was TRYING TO GET LYNCHED. Either way, we were right to doubt her bullshit story. The only question is which kind of idiot she is.

Elastoid wrote:Arc doesn't have to assume Vig will accidentally shoot town.

i agree with cyan, i think arc does have to assume that. the idea is that town cant have lost by d2 no matter what they do

deferentsheep wrote:

Elastoid wrote:Arc doesn't have to assume Vig will accidentally shoot town.

i agree with cyan, i think arc does have to assume that. the idea is that town cant have lost by d2 no matter what they do

Really?

Wait... REALLY? Saying "you have one mislynch" means "there is literally no way you can lose the game?"

Elastoid wrote:That's... odd. And unlikely to confirm Neasans's claim, since her claimed message supposedly occurred during the day.

That said, either she's scum, or she's town and was TRYING TO GET LYNCHED. Either way, we were right to doubt her bullshit story. The only question is which kind of idiot she is.

well they asked who i was aligned with and it seems like a similar type of thing, i think they were trying (or acting like they were trying) to get me to claim scum, as with neasnas. i think that a role with multiple talking type abilities is pretty feasible.

oh and i forgot they also fished for my role yay. surprised i wasnt killed tbh.

mmm yeah. even dying as a tree stump is pretty shitty for if you could lynch scum instead, its just not as bad as lynching a citizen.

Elastoid wrote:

deferentsheep wrote:

Elastoid wrote:Arc doesn't have to assume Vig will accidentally shoot town.

i agree with cyan, i think arc does have to assume that. the idea is that town cant have lost by d2 no matter what they do

Really?

Wait... REALLY? Saying "you have one mislynch" means "there is literally no way you can lose the game?"

yeah i think that what cyan was saying was that that was established in previous games, im not entirely sure

it would be pretty bullshit if it was 3v3 right now. if it was, theres no point even playing, we lost and arc shouldve endgamed already. we've alreayd lost majority if that is true so we may as well just ignore the possbility.

Def - Majority math first
Just says 'even your bright perception can be fooled nowadays'
Elastoid's sudden swap + votes. But it doesn't matter regardless. It's something we can cross at a later date.

Elastoid wrote:

Cyantic wrote:We have one mislynch. Met was almost certainly killed by a vig - likely one-shot.

We cannot hammer. Voting anyone else then Neasans or I is pretty much a scumtell. Conclusion is gonna be Elastoid/Neasans scum team - def/cyan/swords/retral town. One protective, one investigative, one vig, one cit.
[Def - Vig, Cyan - Investigative, Swords - Cit, Retral - Protective would be my best guess.]

Neasans wrote:One mislynch and we lose. I find it far too convenient that you're doing this all now.

This is literally one of the dumbest things I've ever read. I have just got to say that here.

Exactly when would you expect me to claim with a guilty result? D1? Never? Really, Neasans.

IN SUMMARY - Assuming we cannot get Retral to unvote, we're fucked.

Your early vote, plus your then saying you didn't know we were 3v3, is what convinced me.

I'm guessing

Cit -- Me
Town-sided Jester -- Neasans (thanks SO much for that)
Vig -- Def (asked for protection and also suspected Met)
Neutral -- Retral (pursued his own objective the whole time, freely claimed)
mafia team -- Swords and Cyantic.

If I'm wrong, I lose. If I'm right, my teammates were Von, who jumped up and down declaring himself to be scum the first day, deferent, who helped push the town lynch and then shot Met, whose inactivity made him a target, Neasans, who TRIED TO GET HERSELF LYNCHED FOR SUPPOSEDLY PRO-TOWN REASONS, and Cow.

So... gg.

ok mmm yeah i agree with this apart from retral is town protective (arc would probably put in at least one think about it) and no neutral exists.

/vote cyantic

p-edit: sure ok lets cross that tomorrow

I was trying to get lynched, there's no denying that. My ability literally is that I can keep playing the game and posting after dying. I'd be voteless and pretty much count as dead, but aside from that, I could still function perfectly. Not really sure how else I can explain it to you, it's like I'm literally undead.

The idea was to die as soon as possible so I could then stump and lead Town like that since I'm basically immortal once I'm already dead, and scum couldn't touch me.

Literally the only use there is to my role is my death, so what else was I supposed to do? Back then we could have afforded a mislynch, so I thought it could be reasonable for me to try to get lynched D1.

I thought sacrificing my vote would be worth it, back then, since we definitely had enough majority to survive my mislynch back on D1.

And no, I never lied about the message. I did receive it at the start of D1, perhaps from whoever it was that contacted Deferent, idk.

I'm Hermes, Minor God and messenger to the gods. I sent a message to Neasans and Metrion in an attempt to snag evils, but both leads dried up cold. I added Deferent to a quicktopic last night to get as much information out of him as I could, considering I didn't quite trust him.

Deferent, what was that about wanting(but not being able) to shoot Metrion?

Jesus fuck. I'm done.

I've dismantled everything you've thrown at me - if you can call it that. We're just waiting for the clock to click down at this point.

Def is confirmed boneheaded town. Retral is probable town. Elastoid is probable scum. Neasans IS scum and for whatever reason the passion that drove people to lynch her D1 has utterly disappeared in the most pathetic way.

I'm annoyed. I'll come back tomorrow and see if I can make this into a less sour loss. Until then, good fucking luck.

deferentsheep wrote:yeah i think that what cyan was saying was that that was established in previous games, im not entirely sure

it would be pretty bullshit if it was 3v3 right now. if it was, theres no point even playing, we lost and arc shouldve endgamed already. we've alreayd lost majority if that is true so we may as well just ignore the possbility.

Not so.

If we lost majority, it's still plurality lynch. Thus, we'd still be able to win. We'd just need to cast three votes for scum before they cast three votes for us. Then cast two votes before they could. Then cast the last vote first.

Town - VonAntarctic - Loki/Citizen
Town - Metrion - Ra/Citizen
Town - TheCow - Apollo/Oracle(?)
Town - Swordsworth - Hermes/Messenger
Town - deferentsheep - Heimdall/Vigilante

^That's what I know for a fact.

Unknowns:
Neasans - Stump
Cyantic - 1shotunprotectablesheriff with a red on Neasans
Elastoid - ???(I may have missed your claim)

Two of these three are scum.

Swordsworth wrote:Town - VonAntarctic - Loki/Citizen
Town - Metrion - Ra/Citizen
Town - TheCow - Apollo/Oracle(?)
Town - Swordsworth - Hermes/Messenger
Town - deferentsheep - Heimdall/Vigilante
Town - RetralMega - Hades/Link

^That's what I know for a fact.

Unknowns:
Neasans - Stump
Cyantic - 1shotunprotectablesheriff with a red on Neasans
Elastoid - ???(I may have missed your claim)

Two of these three are scum.

Fixed.

Neasans wrote:I was trying to get lynched, there's no denying that. My ability literally is that I can keep playing the game and posting after dying. I'd be voteless and pretty much count as dead, but aside from that, I could still function perfectly. Not really sure how else I can explain it to you, it's like I'm literally undead.

The idea was to die as soon as possible so I could then stump and lead Town like that since I'm basically immortal once I'm already dead, and scum couldn't touch me.

Literally the only use there is to my role is my death, so what else was I supposed to do? Back then we could have afforded a mislynch, so I thought it could be reasonable for me to try to get lynched D1.

I thought sacrificing my vote would be worth it, back then, since we definitely had enough majority to survive my mislynch back on D1.

And no, I never lied about the message. I did receive it at the start of D1, perhaps from whoever it was that contacted Deferent, idk.

Okay, so after all that "IQ of a banana thing," I'm supposed to trust that you were THAT DUMB. Literally all of the stupid shit you said PALES in comparison to the idea that you decided Day 1 to get mislynched WHILE BELIEVING IT WAS 6v2v1.

You were like... we got ONE good mislynch! Let's waste it so things can stay essentially the same... ONLY I WILL BE UNABLE TO VOTE.

K so here's the question I pose to Deferent. I'm trusting you here. My question is: which is more likely? That Neasans is so dumb that she'd rather hijack all of Day 1 to try to get mislynched rather than pretending to have a power role and draw mafia fire or just claiming her role and letting town decide whether to lynch her? OR that she's scum?

If she's scum, does that put Cyantic as Neutral and Neasans and Swords as scum? Or is it actually possible that Neasans is mafia and voting her mafia buddy?

Neasans, LOOK AT THE STUPID FUCKING MESS YOUR DUMB BITCH ASS MADE. If you're town, your right to EVER call ANY other player bad is officially rescinded.

Swordsworth wrote:Town - VonAntarctic - Loki/Citizen
Town - Metrion - Ra/Citizen
Town - TheCow - Apollo/Oracle(?)
Town - Swordsworth - Hermes/Messenger
Town - deferentsheep - Heimdall/Vigilante

^That's what I know for a fact.

Unknowns:
Neasans - Stump
Cyantic - 1shotunprotectablesheriff with a red on Neasans
Elastoid - ???(I may have missed your claim)

Two of these three are scum.

I claimed Anubis. Can't find it, going back to work. Be back in 45

Cyan is scum for his act today and like I said before, after that crazy theory accusing me, Met and Von (all of which ended up being Town), I wouldn't be surprised if Elastoid is scum as well.

My tactic seemed perfectly fine in my head, considering how this role is meant to be played dead. It would have been much, much better for me to die early, though, since then my lack of a vote wouldn't have affected us at that point, since we'd still have majority without me.

The one doubt I still have about you - why the hell would you claim to not be Town to me when obviously I would out the message and assume the messenger was scum?