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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby deferentsheep » Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:10 pm

Elastoid wrote:Arc doesn't have to assume Vig will accidentally shoot town.

i agree with cyan, i think arc does have to assume that. the idea is that town cant have lost by d2 no matter what they do
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Elastoid » Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:11 pm

deferentsheep wrote:
Elastoid wrote:Arc doesn't have to assume Vig will accidentally shoot town.

i agree with cyan, i think arc does have to assume that. the idea is that town cant have lost by d2 no matter what they do

Really?

Wait... REALLY? Saying "you have one mislynch" means "there is literally no way you can lose the game?"
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby deferentsheep » Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:16 pm

Elastoid wrote:That's... odd. And unlikely to confirm Neasans's claim, since her claimed message supposedly occurred during the day.

That said, either she's scum, or she's town and was TRYING TO GET LYNCHED. Either way, we were right to doubt her bullshit story. The only question is which kind of idiot she is.

well they asked who i was aligned with and it seems like a similar type of thing, i think they were trying (or acting like they were trying) to get me to claim scum, as with neasnas. i think that a role with multiple talking type abilities is pretty feasible.

oh and i forgot they also fished for my role yay. surprised i wasnt killed tbh.

mmm yeah. even dying as a tree stump is pretty shitty for if you could lynch scum instead, its just not as bad as lynching a citizen.
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby deferentsheep » Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:20 pm

Elastoid wrote:
deferentsheep wrote:
Elastoid wrote:Arc doesn't have to assume Vig will accidentally shoot town.

i agree with cyan, i think arc does have to assume that. the idea is that town cant have lost by d2 no matter what they do

Really?

Wait... REALLY? Saying "you have one mislynch" means "there is literally no way you can lose the game?"

yeah i think that what cyan was saying was that that was established in previous games, im not entirely sure

it would be pretty bullshit if it was 3v3 right now. if it was, theres no point even playing, we lost and arc shouldve endgamed already. we've alreayd lost majority if that is true so we may as well just ignore the possbility.
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Cyantic » Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:24 pm

Def - Majority math first
Just says 'even your bright perception can be fooled nowadays'
Elastoid's sudden swap + votes. But it doesn't matter regardless. It's something we can cross at a later date.
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby deferentsheep » Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:27 pm

Elastoid wrote:
Cyantic wrote:We have one mislynch. Met was almost certainly killed by a vig - likely one-shot.

We cannot hammer. Voting anyone else then Neasans or I is pretty much a scumtell. Conclusion is gonna be Elastoid/Neasans scum team - def/cyan/swords/retral town. One protective, one investigative, one vig, one cit.
[Def - Vig, Cyan - Investigative, Swords - Cit, Retral - Protective would be my best guess.]

Neasans wrote:One mislynch and we lose. I find it far too convenient that you're doing this all now.

This is literally one of the dumbest things I've ever read. I have just got to say that here.

Exactly when would you expect me to claim with a guilty result? D1? Never? Really, Neasans.

IN SUMMARY - Assuming we cannot get Retral to unvote, we're fucked.

Your early vote, plus your then saying you didn't know we were 3v3, is what convinced me.

I'm guessing

Cit -- Me
Town-sided Jester -- Neasans (thanks SO much for that)
Vig -- Def (asked for protection and also suspected Met)
Neutral -- Retral (pursued his own objective the whole time, freely claimed)
mafia team -- Swords and Cyantic.

If I'm wrong, I lose. If I'm right, my teammates were Von, who jumped up and down declaring himself to be scum the first day, deferent, who helped push the town lynch and then shot Met, whose inactivity made him a target, Neasans, who TRIED TO GET HERSELF LYNCHED FOR SUPPOSEDLY PRO-TOWN REASONS, and Cow.

So... gg.

ok mmm yeah i agree with this apart from retral is town protective (arc would probably put in at least one think about it) and no neutral exists.

/vote cyantic

p-edit: sure ok lets cross that tomorrow
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Neasans » Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:34 pm

I was trying to get lynched, there's no denying that. My ability literally is that I can keep playing the game and posting after dying. I'd be voteless and pretty much count as dead, but aside from that, I could still function perfectly. Not really sure how else I can explain it to you, it's like I'm literally undead.

The idea was to die as soon as possible so I could then stump and lead Town like that since I'm basically immortal once I'm already dead, and scum couldn't touch me.

Literally the only use there is to my role is my death, so what else was I supposed to do? Back then we could have afforded a mislynch, so I thought it could be reasonable for me to try to get lynched D1.

I thought sacrificing my vote would be worth it, back then, since we definitely had enough majority to survive my mislynch back on D1.

And no, I never lied about the message. I did receive it at the start of D1, perhaps from whoever it was that contacted Deferent, idk.
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Swordsworth » Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:36 pm

I'm Hermes, Minor God and messenger to the gods. I sent a message to Neasans and Metrion in an attempt to snag evils, but both leads dried up cold. I added Deferent to a quicktopic last night to get as much information out of him as I could, considering I didn't quite trust him.

Deferent, what was that about wanting(but not being able) to shoot Metrion?
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Cyantic » Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:39 pm

Jesus fuck. I'm done.

I've dismantled everything you've thrown at me - if you can call it that. We're just waiting for the clock to click down at this point.
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Cyantic » Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:44 pm

Def is confirmed boneheaded town. Retral is probable town. Elastoid is probable scum. Neasans IS scum and for whatever reason the passion that drove people to lynch her D1 has utterly disappeared in the most pathetic way.
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Cyantic » Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:45 pm

I'm annoyed. I'll come back tomorrow and see if I can make this into a less sour loss. Until then, good fucking luck.
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Elastoid » Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:06 am

deferentsheep wrote:yeah i think that what cyan was saying was that that was established in previous games, im not entirely sure

it would be pretty bullshit if it was 3v3 right now. if it was, theres no point even playing, we lost and arc shouldve endgamed already. we've alreayd lost majority if that is true so we may as well just ignore the possbility.

Not so.

If we lost majority, it's still plurality lynch. Thus, we'd still be able to win. We'd just need to cast three votes for scum before they cast three votes for us. Then cast two votes before they could. Then cast the last vote first.
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Swordsworth » Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:06 am

Town - VonAntarctic - Loki/Citizen
Town - Metrion - Ra/Citizen
Town - TheCow - Apollo/Oracle(?)
Town - Swordsworth - Hermes/Messenger
Town - deferentsheep - Heimdall/Vigilante

^That's what I know for a fact.

Unknowns:
Neasans - Stump
Cyantic - 1shotunprotectablesheriff with a red on Neasans
Elastoid - ???(I may have missed your claim)

Two of these three are scum.
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Swordsworth » Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:07 am

Swordsworth wrote:Town - VonAntarctic - Loki/Citizen
Town - Metrion - Ra/Citizen
Town - TheCow - Apollo/Oracle(?)
Town - Swordsworth - Hermes/Messenger
Town - deferentsheep - Heimdall/Vigilante
Town - RetralMega - Hades/Link

^That's what I know for a fact.

Unknowns:
Neasans - Stump
Cyantic - 1shotunprotectablesheriff with a red on Neasans
Elastoid - ???(I may have missed your claim)

Two of these three are scum.


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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Elastoid » Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:13 am

Neasans wrote:I was trying to get lynched, there's no denying that. My ability literally is that I can keep playing the game and posting after dying. I'd be voteless and pretty much count as dead, but aside from that, I could still function perfectly. Not really sure how else I can explain it to you, it's like I'm literally undead.

The idea was to die as soon as possible so I could then stump and lead Town like that since I'm basically immortal once I'm already dead, and scum couldn't touch me.

Literally the only use there is to my role is my death, so what else was I supposed to do? Back then we could have afforded a mislynch, so I thought it could be reasonable for me to try to get lynched D1.

I thought sacrificing my vote would be worth it, back then, since we definitely had enough majority to survive my mislynch back on D1.

And no, I never lied about the message. I did receive it at the start of D1, perhaps from whoever it was that contacted Deferent, idk.

Okay, so after all that "IQ of a banana thing," I'm supposed to trust that you were THAT DUMB. Literally all of the stupid shit you said PALES in comparison to the idea that you decided Day 1 to get mislynched WHILE BELIEVING IT WAS 6v2v1.

You were like... we got ONE good mislynch! Let's waste it so things can stay essentially the same... ONLY I WILL BE UNABLE TO VOTE.

K so here's the question I pose to Deferent. I'm trusting you here. My question is: which is more likely? That Neasans is so dumb that she'd rather hijack all of Day 1 to try to get mislynched rather than pretending to have a power role and draw mafia fire or just claiming her role and letting town decide whether to lynch her? OR that she's scum?

If she's scum, does that put Cyantic as Neutral and Neasans and Swords as scum? Or is it actually possible that Neasans is mafia and voting her mafia buddy?

Neasans, LOOK AT THE STUPID FUCKING MESS YOUR DUMB BITCH ASS MADE. If you're town, your right to EVER call ANY other player bad is officially rescinded.
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Elastoid » Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:14 am

Swordsworth wrote:Town - VonAntarctic - Loki/Citizen
Town - Metrion - Ra/Citizen
Town - TheCow - Apollo/Oracle(?)
Town - Swordsworth - Hermes/Messenger
Town - deferentsheep - Heimdall/Vigilante

^That's what I know for a fact.

Unknowns:
Neasans - Stump
Cyantic - 1shotunprotectablesheriff with a red on Neasans
Elastoid - ???(I may have missed your claim)

Two of these three are scum.


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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Neasans » Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:14 am

Cyan is scum for his act today and like I said before, after that crazy theory accusing me, Met and Von (all of which ended up being Town), I wouldn't be surprised if Elastoid is scum as well.
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Neasans » Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:16 am

My tactic seemed perfectly fine in my head, considering how this role is meant to be played dead. It would have been much, much better for me to die early, though, since then my lack of a vote wouldn't have affected us at that point, since we'd still have majority without me.
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Neasans » Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:31 am

The one doubt I still have about you - why the hell would you claim to not be Town to me when obviously I would out the message and assume the messenger was scum?
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Swordsworth » Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:33 am

Neasans wrote:The one doubt I still have about you - why the hell would you claim to not be Town to me when obviously I would out the message and assume the messenger was scum?


I sent it to Met as well; he chose not to reveal the message. As he said, it was bait. I was looking to elicit a scumclaim from either him, you, or deferent so that we'd have a possible lynch set up for today in order to save us if we got in dire straits.
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Swordsworth » Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:38 am

We are in dire straits now; lynching one of Neasans, Elastoid, and Cyantic is a high chance to hit scum.
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Neasans » Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:42 am

Honestly, I'm all for a Cyan lynch considering how I'm almost completely sure he's scum at this point.

We could lynch me if you wanna go that way, but ehhhhhh that one less vote could in fact make a difference now. >.<
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Swordsworth » Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:44 am

Neasans, opinion on Elastoid.

Elastoid, opinion on Cyantic.

Cyantic, opinion on Neasans.

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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby deferentsheep » Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:45 am

Swordsworth wrote:I'm Hermes, Minor God and messenger to the gods. I sent a message to Neasans and Metrion in an attempt to snag evils, but both leads dried up cold. I added Deferent to a quicktopic last night to get as much information out of him as I could, considering I didn't quite trust him.

AHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA FUCKING LOL

SO YOU:
PRETENDED TO BE MULTIPLE DIFFERENT PEOPLE "TO GET AS MUCH INFORMATION OUT OF HIM AS I COULD"
CLAIMED TO BE ABLE TO KILL ME "TO GET AS MUCH INFORMATION OUT OF HIM AS I COULD"
FISHED FOR MY ROLE "TO GET AS MUCH INFORMATION OUT OF HIM AS I COULD"

AND YOU HAVE THE FUCKING AUDACITY TO JUST CLAIM IT STRAIGHT UP LIKE ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL THE PLAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Deferent, what was that about wanting(but not being able) to shoot Metrion?

OH RIGHT, YOU MEAN WHEN YOU TOOK ONE COMMENT COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTEXT TO ROLEFISH ME LMFAO???

THIS IS LITERALLY CONCENTRATED TEXTBOOK SCUMSWORTH, TRY HARDER
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby deferentsheep » Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:47 am

Elastoid wrote:K so here's the question I pose to Deferent. I'm trusting you here. My question is: which is more likely? That Neasans is so dumb that she'd rather hijack all of Day 1 to try to get mislynched rather than pretending to have a power role and draw mafia fire or just claiming her role and letting town decide whether to lynch her? OR that she's scum?

no offense, buts shes pretty damn stupid sometimes and i can see her doing this. in sfm11 i was similarly pissed off after she did jack shit and let the town nolynch when she was confirmed town, while i spent the entire day trying to push a wagon on scum.

If she's scum, does that put Cyantic as Neutral and Neasans and Swords as scum? Or is it actually possible that Neasans is mafia and voting her mafia buddy?

they arent bussing because swords claimed just scum rofl. if neasans is scum then cyantic is town, but i strongly doubt that.

to be completely honest lynching swordsworth is the safest play here, but idgaf i'm 99% sure its cyan / swords anyway.
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