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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Elastoid » Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:06 pm

Cy why did you quickvote if you thought we couldn't be 3v3?

Too much scum in this game fml.

/vote Retral

I think town could be me, Neasans + Vig. Unless Retral's "nightkill passive" somehow killed Met.
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Elastoid » Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:07 pm

...fuck me. In which case...

/unvote
/vote Cyantic


Your early vote and "why are we 3v3?" convinced me. Got to assume Retral is neutral and bad.
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Arcthurus » Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:09 pm

Votecount:

Neasans (1) Cyantic
Cyantic (3) RetralMega, Neasans, Elastoid


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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Cyantic » Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:22 pm

what the literal hell
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Cyantic » Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:26 pm

We have one mislynch. Met was almost certainly killed by a vig - likely one-shot.

We cannot hammer. Voting anyone else then Neasans or I is pretty much a scumtell. Conclusion is gonna be Elastoid/Neasans scum team - def/cyan/swords/retral town. One protective, one investigative, one vig, one cit.
[Def - Vig, Cyan - Investigative, Swords - Cit, Retral - Protective would be my best guess.]

Neasans wrote:One mislynch and we lose. I find it far too convenient that you're doing this all now.

This is literally one of the dumbest things I've ever read. I have just got to say that here.

Exactly when would you expect me to claim with a guilty result? D1? Never? Really, Neasans.

IN SUMMARY - Assuming we cannot get Retral to unvote, we're fucked.
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Elastoid » Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:08 pm

Cyantic wrote:We have one mislynch. Met was almost certainly killed by a vig - likely one-shot.

We cannot hammer. Voting anyone else then Neasans or I is pretty much a scumtell. Conclusion is gonna be Elastoid/Neasans scum team - def/cyan/swords/retral town. One protective, one investigative, one vig, one cit.
[Def - Vig, Cyan - Investigative, Swords - Cit, Retral - Protective would be my best guess.]

Neasans wrote:One mislynch and we lose. I find it far too convenient that you're doing this all now.

This is literally one of the dumbest things I've ever read. I have just got to say that here.

Exactly when would you expect me to claim with a guilty result? D1? Never? Really, Neasans.

IN SUMMARY - Assuming we cannot get Retral to unvote, we're fucked.

Your early vote, plus your then saying you didn't know we were 3v3, is what convinced me.

I'm guessing

Cit -- Me
Town-sided Jester -- Neasans (thanks SO much for that)
Vig -- Def (asked for protection and also suspected Met)
Neutral -- Retral (pursued his own objective the whole time, freely claimed)
mafia team -- Swords and Cyantic.

If I'm wrong, I lose. If I'm right, my teammates were Von, who jumped up and down declaring himself to be scum the first day, deferent, who helped push the town lynch and then shot Met, whose inactivity made him a target, Neasans, who TRIED TO GET HERSELF LYNCHED FOR SUPPOSEDLY PRO-TOWN REASONS, and Cow.

So... gg.
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Elastoid » Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:09 pm

If anyone but def votes for Cyantic, I'll be sad.
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Cyantic » Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:09 pm

OP wrote:Town majority, minimum of 1 mislynch.


We are 100% in a 4 v 2 right now. It's not even arguable.
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Cyantic » Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:10 pm

Also, how does my early vote affect... anything... at all? Especially versus yesterday?
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Elastoid » Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:11 pm

Cyantic wrote:
OP wrote:Town majority, minimum of 1 mislynch.


We are 100% in a 4 v 2 right now. It's not even arguable.

If that's true, it'll become apparent DURING THE DAY and then we'll be able to restructure votes as we have majority.
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Elastoid » Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:12 pm

Cyantic wrote:Also, how does my early vote affect... anything... at all? Especially versus yesterday?

The only reason to early vote is if you're 3v3.

If you early vote and didn't think we were 3v3, why did you do it?
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Cyantic » Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:14 pm

Elastoid, I'm not even sure where you're getting this from.

The town absolutely HAS to have majority because the OP wills it. It would not be majority if it was 3 v 3. The town could lose after one mislynch. This is literally unarguable what are you doing.


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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Elastoid » Sun Feb 14, 2016 10:05 pm

Cyantic wrote:Elastoid, I'm not even sure where you're getting this from.

The town absolutely HAS to have majority because the OP wills it. It would not be majority if it was 3 v 3. The town could lose after one mislynch. This is literally unarguable what are you doing.


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No.

6v3 + 1 mislynch = 4v3.

That means town would have one mislynch.

6v3 + 1 mislynch + 1 bad vig shot = 3v3.

I don't know what you're talking about. Are you suggesting the OP meant "Town has one mislynch, AND can self kill with Vig shot, then no lynch, and still have majority?"
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Cyantic » Sun Feb 14, 2016 10:07 pm

(facepalm)

That's what the OP means. We absolutely can't lose with one mislynch. Vig shooting + NK + Mislynch factors in, otherwise Arc's lying to us. It can't be 3 v 3.
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Elastoid » Sun Feb 14, 2016 10:11 pm

Cyantic wrote:(facepalm)

That's what the OP means. We absolutely can't lose with one mislynch. Vig shooting + NK + Mislynch factors in, otherwise Arc's lying to us. It can't be 3 v 3.

Arc doesn't have to assume Vig will accidentally shoot town.

If Vig does not shoot, then it's 4v3. You can try to get a rule clarification if you like, but I'm pretty sure you're just misrepresenting what the OP says.

Although something DID just occur to me and it's possible you should just claim.
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Cyantic » Sun Feb 14, 2016 10:12 pm

Elastoid, no. That's not how you do it. There has been games where that very factor has been put into play and that Arc has participated in. If we were NOT guaranteed one mislynch without losing, then he would've put that. That is it. There is seriously no fucking argument.

and I already claimed.
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby deferentsheep » Sun Feb 14, 2016 10:16 pm

at the start of the night i got added to a quicktopic with some guy who was presumably the same person who sent the message to neasans since they were rhyming. and they pretended to be two people (the pm arc sent to me said i was being contacted by a "person" singular), were really edgy, and implied to be able to execute me at the end of the night as well just to troll me for some reason. which was nice... ;-,

since they cant be neutral from cyans logic i think they were mafia possibly trying to find neutrals or otherwise just fucking around with a useless ability

at the end of the night i slept peacefully
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D1 (Mount Olympus)

Postby deferentsheep » Sun Feb 14, 2016 10:43 pm

Cyantic wrote:Oh, and for future reference -

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what is this pls?
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | N1 (Scapegoat)

Postby deferentsheep » Sun Feb 14, 2016 10:46 pm

i honestly need more time to think about this shit, 3 of my scumreads flipped town fml

Cyantic wrote:Were both killed by titans? Arc, your flavortext is still unreadable. And if both were killed by titans, why the hell would you kill Met?

One-shot sheriff that cannot be protected (if protection exists) named Heimdall. Guilty on Neasans. On a side note, apparently it can be fooled. Don't know if that means there's a framer or what.

/vote Neasans regardless.

is heimdall some kind of god beucase i've never heard of that before

is "it can be fooled" part of the flavor of the character or ability (e.g. "you are a hime dall who cannot be fooled" or "you can check a player once and your check can be fooled").

do you think there's a framer?
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby deferentsheep » Sun Feb 14, 2016 10:48 pm

http://ageofempires.wikia.com/wiki/Heimdall

ok i found it n e v e r m in d
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | N1 (Scapegoat)

Postby deferentsheep » Sun Feb 14, 2016 10:50 pm

deferentsheep wrote:i honestly need more time to think about this shit, 3 of my scumreads flipped town fml

Cyantic wrote:Were both killed by titans? Arc, your flavortext is still unreadable. And if both were killed by titans, why the hell would you kill Met?

One-shot sheriff that cannot be protected (if protection exists) named Heimdall. Guilty on Neasans. On a side note, apparently it can be fooled. Don't know if that means there's a framer or what.

/vote Neasans regardless.

is heimdall some kind of god beucase i've never heard of that before

is "it can be fooled" part of the flavor of the character or ability (e.g. "you are a hime dall who can be fooled" or "you can check a player once and your check can be fooled").

do you think there's a framer?

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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby deferentsheep » Sun Feb 14, 2016 10:53 pm

Neasans wrote:hence why I've been meme'ing all game since either scum would be pissed enough to attack me or I'd be eventually voted up and become immune to being targeted by scum, while still being able to read and post normally, which would enable me to post my scumreads and do everything without the fear of any repercussions at all.

were you deliberately trying to get lynched by self-voting earlier?
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby deferentsheep » Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:05 pm

Cyantic wrote:Conclusion is gonna be Elastoid/Neasans scum team

why elastoid of all people, he has been super obvious town imo
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Elastoid » Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:06 pm

Missed Cy's claim.

I wonder what Oracle was supposed to be.

Anyway, I want to hear from Neasans what her ability supposedly does once she's dead, and I want to hear from def what he makes of whether Neasans would be that retarded to borderline gamethrow to get herself lynched, or if she's just been scum the whole time.
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Re: TFM18 | AoM: War of the Titans | D2 (The Fall of the Sun

Postby Elastoid » Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:08 pm

deferentsheep wrote:at the start of the night i got added to a quicktopic with some guy who was presumably the same person who sent the message to neasans since they were rhyming.


That's... odd. And unlikely to confirm Neasans's claim, since her claimed message supposedly occurred during the day.

That said, either she's scum, or she's town and was TRYING TO GET LYNCHED. Either way, we were right to doubt her bullshit story. The only question is which kind of idiot she is.
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