http://vocaroo.com/i/s1Tr3ovTnPP1So because Swords and def have said Neasans must be town, I have to consider the possibility, and here's what I came up with: I genuinely don't want Neasans to be town. I WANT her to be scum. And once I realized that about myself, and WHY I want her to be scum, I realized why everything she says is so goddamned infuriating. So I'm going to try to level with her.
Neasans, your oft-repeated argument that you weren't lying about the message is an appeal to respect -- you want me to acknowledge that you're not an idiot, and because you're not an idiot, you must not have made that idiot play. But the reason I want SO BADLY for you to be scum is
that's the only way I can even partially respect the way you've played this.When accused, you did three VERY scummy things. You flailed around with appeals to emotion, ad hominems and other fallacies, you made SEVERAL excuses for why you shouldn't be held accountable for the things you said, and you turned around and accused your accusers of being scum for calling you out. Just a few examples:
Neasans wrote:It's been 24 hours and I'm focusing on class, really feel like complaining that I haven't pushed much?
And Retral was outright contradicting himself, so fucking fite me.
Neasans wrote: My apologies, my self-watching-during-the-day abilities sadly died back in 2012.
Neasans wrote:read you scumlord
Neasans wrote:jesus lrn 2 reed
im afraid my basic super-powers of identifying messengers are a little bit tinily rusty
Neasans wrote:Also about saying I haven't addressed anyone you should take into consideration that I'm simply not comfortable with really doing much when not in my comfort environment of being rested + laptop so fite me until I get those two
Neasans wrote:k then scumlord
When someone says, "if my read is wrong, suggest another possible one," acting like they're demanding the impossible is scummy fucking behavior. Calling them "scumlord" for it is scummy fucking behavior. Making excuses like you're drunk, you're tired, you don't have your laptop or you're just naturally a bitch... doesn't make it less scummy. In fact, your demand to NOT be held accountable... is scummy fucking behavior.
If someone else behaved like you did, you would respond thinking they were scum. You would cry for their lynch. And yet, when people raise questions, you shout that THEY must be scum for even doubting your pristine character:
Neasans wrote:TheCow wrote:/vote nes
literally can't be town
Oh, my, you're in for some fun if this goes through. Considering how you
will see I am town and you
will have quite the bill to deal with afterwards. Just a heads-up that if I am lynched today, I will dedicate the rest of my everything to proving you are nothing but scum.
You and Elastoid both, claiming I am lying, with your arguments that are nothing but
pure bullshit.
So I'll have you know this is literally the stupidest mislynch you could have chosen to try to push out of all the green gods in this game rofl lmao
Intent on keeping my vote in place of the time being.
This is pretty much exactly the same thing that Retral did in that NFM game -- act scummy, get butthurt and declare that if you get lynched, it's the fault of everyone else. That's a retarded way to behave. I'd be calling him out for that shit, but he didn't make an argument that relies solely on respect for his intelligence. I mean, I've got a quote in the last few hours of Retral saying he thinks half of 9 might be 6, but to his credit, Retral isn't going around yelling "I can't believe people don't have more respect for my goddamned genius!" In comparison to what you've done here, he's fucking Socrates, because Socrates knew that he knew nothing.
But again, you act scummy as fuck, and somehow anyone who thinks you might be scum is at fault here. That's a really shitty appeal to emotion -- if you act like scum, and people lynch you for being scum, it's because you're bad.
Neasans wrote:Von wrote:Neasans is flailing because she simply is playing like that no matter of alignment
all hail, person/god with a brain
So here you are, saying Von's the only smart one for knowing that "scummy" is your default setting.
If your general approach to this game is to always act like a fucking cornered dog whenever anyone questions your motives, to respond with ad hominem attacks and logical fallacies, and then think that by posting the most and shouting the loudest with the most aggressive spelling of "fite me," then you are bad. You are expecting that others are going to be better players than you, and skillful enough to recognize that despite your incredibly suspicious behavior, you're not necessarily evil.
In short, you are expecting others to carry you despite your bad play.
I recognize that you are an experienced player, so my options are to either assume that you literally do not realize that shouting aggressive, angry bullshit at the top of your voice is suspicious, even as you suspect others for doing the same thing, to the point where you genuinely believe that anyone with the audacity to hold you accountable for the idiot shit you say must be scum of the highest order, OR I can assume that you're scum yourself, trying to obscure the issue with a disorganized, albeit apparently marginally effective defense.
So tell me, which one would you rather I believe about you?