SFM15 | III | Game Over | Mafia Wins | Karma is a Bitch

[KingOfEvil]

KoE you're a new fm player right

Relatively new, I am. My first two games were a bit sloppy, but I picked up quickly. Most things I called in my last game were true, and many things I've speculated on here are becoming true I'm finding too.

In regards to what I meant by discerning every items potential first, we need to scum read around items because of such things like your brainwasher issue. Going full force into lynching a scum target who could very well be the brainwasher would result in your death as well, a possible town member. What other utility possibilities can exist that would ruin pure scum hunting is unnerving for the time being, hence why it should be important to consider both at the same time.

[Alzar]

i'm perfectly fine with being lynched if it means killing scum, especially so considering that the gods get a secondary kill alongside the lynch, if we play it safe we can come out on top with -1 town, -2 scum

[Watt2015]

.. I don't actually think LoF was scum.. There's a possibility ringing in my head..

What if, just like Varanus, he was flavor cleaned?

I find it hard to believe that not only was I forced to trade items with LoF or get RB'd, but he just so happens to die by Mafia.. It seems... TOO coincidental..

[Rickdaily12]

Anyway, don't mind me, I'm just going to be here silently judging all of you.

I'll again remind this Town that mafia has a flavor clean. They don't "clean" as much as "change alignments".

Back to judging all of you. Cakez I'd like a serious answer to my question as well. I've got a bone to pick with a lot of you.



Heads will start rolling if I legitimately have to be a defense lawyer. I WAS going to be this for Mel, but you killed her just as she figured it out.

[SirCakez]

Rick not necessarily mafia but some form of scum, yes.

[Watt2015]

Anyway, don't mind me, I'm just going to be here silently judging all of you.

I'll again remind this Town that mafia has a flavor clean. They don't "clean" as much as "change alignments".

Back to judging all of you. Cakez I'd like a serious answer to my question as well. I've got a bone to pick with a lot of you.



Heads will start rolling if I legitimately have to be a defense lawyer. I WAS going to be this for Mel, but you killed her just as she figured it out.

Exactly why I think LoF is Town.

[Alzar]

wait watt

are you saying that cow didnt roleblock trading???

[Watt2015]

wait watt

are you saying that cow didnt roleblock trading???

He was supposed to RB killing.
A message is supposed to show up at the start of the day saying Killing was RB'd me thinks (not factional kills, but kill aligned items)

[SirCakez]

More evidence for Cow scum.

[Alzar]

cow, did you roleblock killing??

help what is happening

[KingOfEvil]

not only was I forced to trade items with LoF or get RB'd

Given the chance to get rid of an item that gives you a sure loss upon death, especially when everyone knew you had it, why would you refuse to give it away? To a now confirmed mafia member too. I doubt the mafia would want to give your item to one of their own, so the one forcing you to give it away was most likely not mafia.

[SirCakez]

Kill was hit by the Captain thing night one. I don't think it's a forced trade, just a forced visit.

[Kmenx]

Slept peacefully

AND CALLED IT MELA WAS TOWN

[Alzar]

kmenx you quickhammered mela

when did you "call" it

[SirCakez]

Slept peacefully

AND CALLED IT MELA WAS TOWN

You hammered Mel wtf

[Watt2015]

I think with what I'm seeing, Cow is definitely scum.

He stated he would RB killing tonight (as to prevent KoE's item from causing havoc), yet no message stating the Killing subalignment was RB'd appeared in the game chat like it should have.

I was forced to target LoF, which would get rid of the item I hold.
LoF being Mafia? A joke in my eyes, the odds of me being forced to trade or get RB with him as my target along with an apparent "accidental Mafia kill Mafia" scenario are too low. He was "cleaned" by a Mafia item.

Why clean him to look Mafia? LoF defended me and scum read Cow. This would provide mislynch ammunition, and people could start thinking "LoF buddied up with Watt, Watt must be Mafia"

It's well stacked, but too coincidental to be true.

P-edit: Forced visit in my case would make me trade items, as I am currently of the Trading subalignment

[Rickdaily12]

Excuse me while I consult with the dead.

They're still pissed, for the record.

They also love the sp00ky, apparently.

[SirCakez]

What was Varanus's night result Rick?

[Alzar]

tell varanus i say hi

[Watt2015]

Also: The dead wanted to give you a key puzzle, before we actually give anything forth of relevance.
(Seeing as how the Dead are the only followers of us who actually worshipped us AS YOU ALL STAND ON OUR TEMPLES)

This is the puzzle:


B L U E
D A Y
F O R M U L A


They also think you're utterly incapable of solving puzzles, so GL.

I'd like to focus on this.
Blue Day Formula (BDF)

Blue must obviously mean Town, as I recall seeing in other Mafia games where they used Blue in that sense.

Town Day Formula if you substitute. So.. the dead gave us this puzzle..

Was it the entirety of the dead, or one person from the dead chat in particular?

[KingOfEvil]

Forced visit in my case would make me trade items, as I am currently of the Trading subalignment

I'm still perplexed why you would have any desire to keep your game losing item when everyone knows you have it now.

[TheCow]

Rick, about post 1326. Are you implying that you know KOE is town?

Cakez, what are your thoughts on the Saw Killer? You touched on it briefly in 1302, but I want your opinion on how or why no one was killed by blue.

I'll move onto Watt later. He's a waste of time right now.

Post 1320 from 11th is suspicious. Kmenx might as well be claiming scum with his opening.

[Watt2015]

Forced visit in my case would make me trade items, as I am currently of the Trading subalignment

I'm still perplexed why you would have any desire to keep your game losing item when everyone knows you have it now.

I couldn't hand it off to someone I deemed as Town, it didn't sit right with me.

[TheCow]

Cow pls, you should thank me for something you brought up already.

What are you talking about?

[Watt2015]

Forced visit in my case would make me trade items, as I am currently of the Trading subalignment

I'm still perplexed why you would have any desire to keep your game losing item when everyone knows you have it now.

I couldn't hand it off to someone I deemed as Town, it didn't sit right with me.

Not to mention, he was targeted N1 by this (K1ll was forced to visit him or get RB), it seemed like this was a scum plan, so I opted not to follow it.