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Re: XX16 | The Telepath | Day 4

Postby UzayAltay » Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:44 pm

kosmo16 wrote:I think PK is unlikely to be a Mafia. He isn't noob that is clear. But do such a ballsy play with Day 1 Escort claim is not something you do in your first mafia game on forum. I am for sure not prioritize this lynch. It's discussion for P3.

Come on kosmo, you are too overvalueing that claim. As you said, we have no idea on how experienced they are.

PKFlash wrote:As I stated, the best move is probably to resolve PK/Scorpio today, then move on to resolving Kosmo/Spet tomorrow.

We get the most discussion time with the least pressure if we lynch a scum today, NoLynch tomorrow, then lynch the last scum D6. It should give us a full 216 hours of discussion without putting us into LyLo until D6.

Nonono.
(Will explain this from town!you pov )
I get you wanna play a 144 hour F4 rather than 144 hour F6, but we are in F6 now and if we do not have a success in now, we won't be able to see 144 hour F4 as well.

/unvote
/vote unvote


I am going to sleep. Will vote no-lynch back when I woke up tomorrow.

(Actually, that seems a good way to show when I am available and when I am not.)
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Re: XX16 | The Telepath | Day 4

Postby ScorpioDiAngelo » Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:53 pm

PKFlash wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:Can I ask why you exactly specified Scorpio?

I was thinking it as Dota but yeah I hadn't thought much if it isn't Dota.

Need to look for that tomorrow probably.

Because Scorpio and I have been pushing each other for a while (although Scorpio refuses to actually vote me for whatever reason)

There are also some interactions I'd like to look at in more detail, and it helps to establish that there's no way Scorpio and I are w/w beforehand

Please establish that you and I are not WvW or TvT for that matter. Because when I flip town I don't want a single doubt in anyone's mind that you are the next lynch.
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Re: XX16 | The Telepath | Day 4

Postby UzayAltay » Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:55 pm

ScorpioDiAngelo wrote:
PKFlash wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:Can I ask why you exactly specified Scorpio?

I was thinking it as Dota but yeah I hadn't thought much if it isn't Dota.

Need to look for that tomorrow probably.

Because Scorpio and I have been pushing each other for a while (although Scorpio refuses to actually vote me for whatever reason)

There are also some interactions I'd like to look at in more detail, and it helps to establish that there's no way Scorpio and I are w/w beforehand

Please establish that you and I are not WvW or TvT for that matter. Because when I flip town I don't want a single doubt in anyone's mind that you are the next lynch.

Yeah they are exactly doing that though we are at MyLo?
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Re: XX16 | The Telepath | Day 4

Postby ScorpioDiAngelo » Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:56 pm

PKFlash wrote:Do you agree with these claims?
- There is a scum in [Scorpio, PK]
- Scorpio and PK are not w/w in any scenario

For once, PK and I are on the same page. There is a wolf in PK and I, and there's no way that he and I are WvW
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Re: XX16 | The Telepath | Day 4

Postby ScorpioDiAngelo » Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:59 pm

UzayAltay wrote:
ScorpioDiAngelo wrote:
PKFlash wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:Can I ask why you exactly specified Scorpio?

I was thinking it as Dota but yeah I hadn't thought much if it isn't Dota.

Need to look for that tomorrow probably.

Because Scorpio and I have been pushing each other for a while (although Scorpio refuses to actually vote me for whatever reason)

There are also some interactions I'd like to look at in more detail, and it helps to establish that there's no way Scorpio and I are w/w beforehand

Please establish that you and I are not WvW or TvT for that matter. Because when I flip town I don't want a single doubt in anyone's mind that you are the next lynch.

Yeah they are exactly doing that though we are at MyLo?

Oh shit. Well in that case. Maybe it's best to table that PK/Scorpio debate for one day and focus on finding PK's scum buddy.
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Re: XX16 | The Telepath | Day 4

Postby kosmo16 » Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:16 pm

UzayAltay wrote:
kosmo16 wrote:I think PK is unlikely to be a Mafia. He isn't noob that is clear. But do such a ballsy play with Day 1 Escort claim is not something you do in your first mafia game on forum. I am for sure not prioritize this lynch. It's discussion for P3.

Come on kosmo, you are too overvalueing that claim. As you said, we have no idea on how experienced they are.


OK. So there is a possibility that as Mafia he could claim that to be visited by Telepath and in case of ti being visited by Telepath as well, then investigative action on him could fail. Maybe I will just check his iso.
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Re: XX16 | The Telepath | Day 4

Postby PKFlash » Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:55 pm

ScorpioDiAngelo wrote:Oh shit. Well in that case. Maybe it's best to table that PK/Scorpio debate for one day and focus on finding PK's scum buddy.

"Please don't pay attention to me UwU, let's shift all the attention to someone else!"
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Re: XX16 | The Telepath | Day 4

Postby ScorpioDiAngelo » Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:30 pm

PKFlash wrote:
ScorpioDiAngelo wrote:Oh shit. Well in that case. Maybe it's best to table that PK/Scorpio debate for one day and focus on finding PK's scum buddy.

"Please don't pay attention to me UwU, let's shift all the attention to someone else!"

Oh shit, I almost forgot I'm not responding until PK admits who's alt they are.
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Re: XX16 | The Telepath | Day 4

Postby ScorpioDiAngelo » Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:36 pm

kosmo16 wrote:I think PK is unlikely to be a Mafia. He isn't noob that is clear. But do such a ballsy play with Day 1 Escort claim is not something you do in your first mafia game on forum. I am for sure not prioritize this lynch. It's discussion for P3.

It's almost like it's not his first forum mafia game. Strange.
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Re: XX16 | The Telepath | Day 4

Postby Varanus » Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:38 pm

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Re: XX16 | The Telepath | Day 4

Postby ScorpioDiAngelo » Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:47 pm

Lol. Anyways. I'm cit. Pk is janitor, the cleaned role was not a citizen at all, and consort doesn't exist in this setup. That is all,
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Re: XX16 | The Telepath | Day 4

Postby PKFlash » Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:50 pm

ScorpioDiAngelo wrote:Lol. Anyways. I'm cit. Pk is janitor, the cleaned role was not a citizen at all, and consort doesn't exist in this setup. That is all,

You must not have noticed the part where we lynched Dolphina

Or the part where multiple Janitors can't spawn in this setup
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Re: XX16 | The Telepath | Day 4

Postby ScorpioDiAngelo » Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:51 pm

Holy shit. Did I miss an entire day? Fuck me. I give up.
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Re: XX16 | The Telepath | Day 4

Postby ScorpioDiAngelo » Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:52 pm

And I was so certain that I was caught up too.
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Re: XX16 | The Telepath | Day 4

Postby ScorpioDiAngelo » Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:54 pm

Okay. Well shit. Let's start over. I'm gonna go back and ISO dive the remaining players to see what I missed,
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Re: XX16 | The Telepath | Day 4

Postby kosmo16 » Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:58 pm

ScorpioDiAngelo wrote:Lol. Anyways. I'm cit. Pk is janitor, the cleaned role was not a citizen at all, and consort doesn't exist in this setup. That is all,


Is it fake, or genuine... Don't know Scorpio too good to figure this out.
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Re: XX16 | The Telepath | Day 4

Postby PKFlash » Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:58 pm

At this point, the two most plausible scumteams are Scorpio/Spet and PK/Kosmo (maybe PK/Spet too but idk). Scorpio arguing the lack of a Consort while Kosmo and presumably Hereisme were both RBd (I can't check the latter because I don't get feedback for the night my target died, unfortunately) pretty much proves that they aren't w/w.

I'm going to take the time to go into detail and sum up my case against Scorpio.

In this post, ScorpioDiAngelo wrote:Hye guys. It's Olivia and I regret to nfomr you all that I am drulk as fuck. so I won;t be of any use tonight. however, why the fuck are there two scummy votes on jeepers?

Two posts into their ISO and they're shading people for voting Jeeper (who has now flipped red). This is basically the chainsaw defense, where someone defends their buddy by accusing their voter(s), without actually voting anyone. See Fwog in VFM76 for an example of this.

In this post, ScorpioDiAngelo wrote:Alright, I'm semi-alive. Head is still pounding, Sorry about last night, we went out drinking and forgot to revoke our own internet privileges beforehand.

Now, catching up on today, the fact that people are willing to scum read us based on one drunk post kinda reeks of scum looking for an opportunity lynch; but I digress.

I'll be doing my best to stay on top of posts today so as to get some decent reads. Hoping to make this a productive game for once.

Here, they're shading people who SRd them over the previous post I quoted. It kinda feels like they're chainsawing themselves but that might be confirmation bias at this point.

In this post, ScorpioDiAngelo wrote:Jeeper- Showed up early, immediately tried to do a reaction test on lisq. Semms kinda sus; but I've never played with them so idk what it means- Null

So you thought Jeeper was being kinda sus but had them at null? That makes no sense

In this post, ScorpioDiAngelo wrote:
cob709 wrote:
Spettatore wrote:Oh yes. Let's all play passively and let scum take over.

I will not allow the Mafia to oppress the people. My leadership shall lead us to greatness.
Obey me, for I speak the word of god.

/Vote Cob

Voting Cob D1 is a total cop-out and comes from scum the majority of the time from what I've seen

In this post, ScorpioDiAngelo wrote:Okay can we vote Debil at this point?

As Debil pointed out, it kinda looks like they're afraid of the consequences of lynching Debil and want to gauge other people's reactions first. I'd be willing to write it off just this once, but Scorpio seems to have a pattern of this. Look through their ISO and you'll notice that despite the fact that they've been pushing me a lot, they haven't voted me once.

In this post, Royee wrote:TheDebil|4|Komaru, UzayAltay, ScorpioDiAngelo, Crimson97

Remember back during D2 when I mentioned that scum tend to situate themselves around third or fourth on a wagon to avoid drawing attention when the wagon target flips green? I initially cited that primarily as evidence against Dolphina, but I did bring this up too. Note how Scorpio has put themselves third on the wagon.

In this post, ScorpioDiAngelo wrote:That's the second massclaim suggestion in less than two days. I'm not liking this,

What's the issue with a massclaim? Are you afraid that you'll get cc'd or something?

In this post, ScorpioDiAngelo wrote:Guys, Dolphina is at L-3. Let's maybe not end the day too soon.

When you're focused so much on self-preservation that you get scared of someone being at L-3 in the other VC

In this post, ScorpioDiAngelo wrote:pk, abs, cob/cheez is my bets for scum team.

Keep this in mind for the next post

In this post, ScorpioDiAngelo wrote:On another note,
/Vote Cob

So you're sure that Abstract and I are maf, but you instead vote for Cob who you've previously listed as one of your less confident reads? Why are you going back to the cop-out vote instead of just voting your strongest SR? Again, you seem to be afraid of the consequences of pushing a mislynch.

From all of these unexplained and even scummy actions, I have concluded that Scorpio is a member of the Mafia.

Coming soon: Some more kill analysis
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Re: XX16 | The Telepath | Day 4

Postby PKFlash » Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:59 pm

I would've spoilered that but I'm not trusted
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Re: XX16 | The Telepath | Day 4

Postby PKFlash » Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:06 pm

Uzay and Cheeze are locktown from how EoD2 went, so here's the possible scumteams and my thoughts on them:

PK/Scorpio - Haha no

Kosmo/Scorpio - I just explained why this team doesn't work

Kosmo/Spet - Kosmo came in and accused Spet and Scorpio, which I wouldn't expect scum to do at MyLo

PK/Kosmo - This one's plausible I guess. I'm not really qualified to comment on it :/

PK/Spet - Maybe? See PK/Kosmo

Scorpio/Spet - This one's the most plausible from my PoV right now, but I'm not entirely sure about Spet. Like I said before, we should handle PK/Scorpio now and Kosmo/Spet later.
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Re: XX16 | The Telepath | Day 4

Postby ScorpioDiAngelo » Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:11 pm

Kosmo- You said in this post,
kosmo16 wrote:This game is slow.

Checked the isos PiKachu, Jacob, Spectatore, Cheeseburger, Scorpions are all Town.

When did your opinion change?

kosmo16 wrote:I think Debil could be killed either because Mafia though he softed pr or to draw away attention from Crimson's wagon: kosmo16, watchme1, [Jeeper5], PKFlash, AbstractGlacial

I like this post. Let's revisit this.
I don't like how you seemingly town read PK based entirely on his escort claim, even when you acknowledged that it was objectively a bad play.
I also don't like how you pointed out that Uzay over reacted on day 2 but never pushed it.
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Re: XX16 | The Telepath | Day 4

Postby ScorpioDiAngelo » Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:13 pm

So I'm breaking my oath to not respond to PK to point out this one thing, they wouldn't be so desperate to lynch me today if they weren't trying to force a misslynch so scum will win. Now, moving on to my next ISO.
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Re: XX16 | The Telepath | Day 4

Postby PKFlash » Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:27 pm

Back to the kill analysis that I mentioned, but this time for a different victim: Debil

Both Scorpio and I had a reason to not kill Debil: We were pushing them at the time, so it would generally be a better play to kill someone else and try to get Debil mislynched.

However, Scorpio did have a reason to kill Debil that may have outweighed the prior reason: Debil was pushing Scorpio back (remember how Debil called Scorpio out?), which meant that Debil was a threat to Scorpio and may have even gotten them lynched the next day. Additionally, Debil was in favor of lynching between the two slots that were empty at the time (Jeeper and Lisq), so it may have also been an attempt to protect Jeeper/Dolphina.

The Mafia may have also thought that Debil was a PR and killed them for that reason, however, I don't see anything in their ISO that seems like a PR soft. I'm definitely not the best person to ask about this, though, and I implore everyone else to take a look for themselves and see if they can find any PR softs other than the legendary signal attempt.

The conclusion: As things stand, Scorpio had more of a reason to kill Debil than I did.
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Re: XX16 | The Telepath | Day 4

Postby ScorpioDiAngelo » Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:27 pm

I'm apparently not allowed to use the dreaded "A-word" anymore, so I'll avoid pointing out the obvious signs from spat and jump right in.

Immediately jumped on a comment I made after we were scum read for a drunk post. Don't like that at all. Also a bit taken aback by the tryhard nature of their entrance; but I digress before I get too far into "A-word" territory.

I'll point out that everyone Spet pinned as my scum buddies early on have flipped town. But anyways. Namely Cob and Komaru, in case anyone was curious.

I really don;'t like how you and spat dance around each other in the earlier days. It seems very artificial.
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Re: XX16 | The Telepath | Day 4

Postby ScorpioDiAngelo » Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:30 pm

Kill analysis: PK was already pushing me by day two and killing debil would have been the perfect opportunity to further frame me. As a matter of fact, PK flipped completely from town reading me on day one to scum reading me and pushing me since day two. Almost like a more experienced person Almost as if a scum buddy told them that I would be an easy miss lynch target.
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Re: XX16 | The Telepath | Day 4

Postby PKFlash » Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:34 pm

@Royee

Are you able to tell us whether or not something will be done to compensate for Abstract being modkilled, such as the next night being skipped or something?
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