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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby Yosh1123 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 2:38 pm

/vote ezradekezra

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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby ObiWan » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:19 pm

I'm taking the top townreads and scumreads from the nearest EOD post people have posted. Should I be wrong, feel free to edit it.
Just wanted to do this for added info for us for the future.
I wanted to double check everyone's reads with their votes and see if they matched or if anyone suddenly changed to poly near EOD without scumreading them at all.
Seems like everyone was on-point though unforunately, so I didn't gather any evidence from that. But, I figured someone else might see something I don't, so I'm posting this anyways (Plus I spent a lot of time going through everyone's ISOs looking for them).

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Top Townleans D1 - Zorua/Jeeper
Top Scumleans D1- Phone/Fenraiser
Voted Phone D1
Gunsmith D1/Gave Zorua Gun

Jeeper5
Top Townleans D1 - ???
Top Scumleans D1 -
Jeeper5 wrote:Phone/Cheeze/Ezra, maybe Eqsy traitor

Voted Eqsy (Yosh) D1

hereisme -
Ded Citizen

AbstractGlacial - Lookout D1 - Watched Rick (No one visited)
Top Townleans D1 - Rick/Debil
Top Scumleans D1 - Poly
Voted Poly D1
Lookout D1 - Watched Rick (No one visited)

polypies73
Lynched Sheriff

Fenraiser
Top Townleans D1- Rick, Uzay, Ezra, Phone
Top Scumleans - Eqsy (Yosh)/Debil/Cheeze (And basically everyone else XD)
Voted Eqsy (Yosh) D1

UzayAltay
Top Townleans D1 - Poly, Rick, Phone, Abstract
Top Scumleans D1 - Debil/Eqsy (Yosh)
Voted Debil D1

TheDebil
Top Townleans - ??? Phone maybe?
Top Scumleans - Poly/Eqsy (Yosh)
Voted Poly D1
Jailkeeper - Jailed Ezra N1

kosmo16 - Claimed Escort/RB'd Hereisme
Top Townleans - Abstract?
Top Scumleans - Ezra/Cheese/HIM/Debil/Zorua
Voted Ezra D1
Escort N1/RB'd Hereisme

ZoruaLuhansk
Top Townleans - HIM/Phone/Ezra
Top Scumleans - Eqsy (Yosh)/Cheese/Jeeper/Abstract
Voted Eqsy (Yosh) D1
Given Gun N1/Shot Eqsy (Yosh) who did not die

Phone0Ix
Top Townleans - ???
Top Scumleans - Poly/Ezra/Debil
Voted Poly D1

EqsyLootz
Top Townlean - ???
Top Scumlean - Phone
Voted Phone D1

CheezePie
Top Townlean - Eqsy (Didn't see others, but could've missed it)
Top Scumlean - Poly/Abstract/Jeeper
Voted Poly D1

Rickdaily12
Top Townleans - Fenraiser/Phone
Top Scumleans - Debil/Uzay(?)
Voted Debil D1


Ezradekezra[/quote]
Top Townleans - Uzay/Zorua/Cheeze
Top Scumleans - Jeeper/Debil
Voted Jeeper D1


I do believe there is at least 1 or two mafia in the poly vote pool.
Yosh being Mafia is more likely than Mafia getting lucky with a Doctor heal imo.
But the possibilty that Jailkeeper/Escort are lying are also possibilities. Zorua would be a decent roleblock for Mafia.
Kosmo roleblocking HIM (I'm still unclear if he is claiming he roleblocked HIM or did not roleblock anyone, either way I feel they're both anti-town moves), while he did put HIM in a mafia pool once (Not near end of day though), he had other higher choices to roleblock. It just doesn't add up for me that he'd roleblock HIM (Who again, a lot of people saw as town). He was pretty hardcore on lynching Ezra D1. Why not roleblock Ezra then? There is a possibility that Kosmo roleblocked Zorua last night as well.
Right now I'm 100% okay with lynching Kosmo due to the above.

Debil, why did you decide to jail Ezra last night?
Why are you suggesting you might be lying about who you jailed? Wouldn't a townie Jailkeep suggest the Escort might be lying, not the Jailkeep?
:FancyGlasses:
This was not the scumslip you were looking for.


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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby ObiWan » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:23 pm

/vote Kosmo
For right now.
I'm not against a Yosh lynch either. But I need to hear more from Kosmo and his thought process before I'm comfortable taking a chance that Yosh is Mafia.
This was not the scumslip you were looking for.


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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby kosmo16 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:25 pm

Phone0Ix wrote:Btw there is also a scenario where the Escort or the JK lied about target and rbd Zorua instead. Just saying


Someone learns... I could plan that as scum team with Obiwan. True.
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby kosmo16 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:30 pm

ObiWan wrote:/vote Kosmo
For right now.
I'm not against a Yosh lynch either. But I need to hear more from Kosmo and his thought process before I'm comfortable taking a chance that Yosh is Mafia.


Mafia has 3 members. If they had no pr in the team then the most townread member does a kill. From my scumreads it was HIM.
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby AbstractGlacial » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:30 pm

Jeeper5
Fenraiser
kosmo16
Phone0Ix
EqsyLootz

PoE
i got confused why yosh wasn't there
but he replaced eqsy so it's ok
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby Phone0Ix » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:38 pm

@Obi

My top townleans are Fenraiser and Zorua
Call me Phone Ig

Or Silver because of my old discord name. Or Mikan because of my new discord name. Or Julian as that's my actual name
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby TheDebil » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:40 pm

ezra had some interesting reads from what i remember but also under the radar perfect for a kill

and because im cool like that
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby TheDebil » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:41 pm

theres a bunch of content but you dont notice it until you read it
so you wouldnt think about it
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby TheDebil » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:42 pm

kosmo16 wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:Btw there is also a scenario where the Escort or the JK lied about target and rbd Zorua instead. Just saying


Someone learns... I could plan that as scum team with Obiwan. True.

i couldn't so im confirmed town, ez life
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby AbstractGlacial » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:42 pm

when will me debil and cheeze stop rolling non-mafia in games together
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby TheDebil » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:43 pm

AbstractGlacial wrote:when will me debil and cheeze stop rolling non-mafia in games together

we will roll mafia when we join a game with 0 townies and 3 mafia
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby AbstractGlacial » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:44 pm

TheDebil wrote:
AbstractGlacial wrote:when will me debil and cheeze stop rolling non-mafia in games together

we will roll mafia when we join a game with 0 townies and 3 mafia

lemon get on it
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby TheDebil » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:57 pm

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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby kosmo16 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:05 pm

Happy New Year! From Europe.
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby Ezradekezra » Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:06 pm

Can you tell us if 2021 is just as bad as 2020?
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby kosmo16 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:41 pm

Ezradekezra wrote:Can you tell us if 2021 is just as bad as 2020?


It's better.
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby ObiWan » Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:48 pm

kosmo16 wrote:
ObiWan wrote:/vote Kosmo
For right now.
I'm not against a Yosh lynch either. But I need to hear more from Kosmo and his thought process before I'm comfortable taking a chance that Yosh is Mafia.


Mafia has 3 members. If they had no pr in the team then the most townread member does a kill. From my scumreads it was HIM.


Why did you suspect HIM to be mafia if he was townie?
This was not the scumslip you were looking for.


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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby Phone0Ix » Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:55 pm

kosmo16 wrote:
Ezradekezra wrote:Can you tell us if 2021 is just as bad as 2020?


It's better.

Haha.

Happy new year tho Ig
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby ObiWan » Thu Dec 31, 2020 6:03 pm

Debil, did you scumslip buddy? You haven’t answered me about this yet
TheDebil wrote:or there is the third option where either me or kosmo is lying and you just got blocked and you not considering it also adds to the weirdness factor


Why say you could be lying about your jail? :ThinkEyes: I get the kosmo remark, but if you’re town why even suggest you could be lying?
This was not the scumslip you were looking for.


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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby Phone0Ix » Thu Dec 31, 2020 6:05 pm

ObiWan wrote:Debil, did you scumslip buddy? You haven’t answered me about this yet
TheDebil wrote:or there is the third option where either me or kosmo is lying and you just got blocked and you not considering it also adds to the weirdness factor


Why say you could be lying about your jail? :ThinkEyes: I get the kosmo remark, but if you’re town why even suggest you could be lying?

I dont think bringing that up is sus tho.. I do that alot when I'm town ^^' But I'm not Debil, so Ig it could be scummy for him? But I think it's NAI
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby ObiWan » Thu Dec 31, 2020 6:09 pm

@Phone Fair enough. I’m unsure on what the gameplay is like nowadays. But in the past suggesting you might be lying was pretty scummy.

What does everyone think about kosmos RB and his reasoning?

And if you believe kosmo on his RB: do you think it more likely Yosh has a Mafia doctor buddy that healed him, or Yosh is town who was healed by a Mafia member and was framed by chance?
This was not the scumslip you were looking for.


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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby Phone0Ix » Thu Dec 31, 2020 6:11 pm

Btw I feel like Dota and Debil had rlly weird night actions.. And Rick has been annoying so Dota/Debil/Ezra is new scumteam with Rick as traitor still
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby Phone0Ix » Thu Dec 31, 2020 6:12 pm

ObiWan wrote:@Phone Fair enough. I’m unsure on what the gameplay is like nowadays. But in the past suggesting you might be lying was pretty scummy.

What does everyone think about kosmos RB and his reasoning?
I trust Kosmo's RB tbh..

And if you believe kosmo on his RB: do you think it more likely Yosh has a Mafia doctor buddy that healed him, or Yosh is town who was healed by a Mafia member and was framed by chance?
Hm.. A mafia doc wouldnt heal a townie I think. So I suspect that its most likely that Debil the Jailkeeper blocked the shot.
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby Phone0Ix » Thu Dec 31, 2020 6:15 pm

>I know I just said that Debil saying it didn't make him mafia JK but I do think he is mafia JK
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