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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby Rickdaily12 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:16 am

ZoruaLuhansk wrote:hi sorry I have random WIM drops because I'm feeling sort of not great

I got the gun and shot Yosh, so the mafia doctor healed them
this skyrockets Yosh's mafia equity
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This just isn't making sense anymore.

Okay, so, it's been 24 hours, and the Doctor still hasn't claimed. We know they're still alive because it hasn't died yet. Debil is claiming Jailkeeper, having jailed Ezra, and Kosmo is claiming Escort, having blocked HIM, both actions weird in their own right, but they wouldn't interfere with this assuming both are telling the truth, and both claimed this before Dota claimed having watched me last night, so both probably are telling the truth given that there's no counter claimers yet and risking being caught lying by the Lookout is just stupid.

I don't know why the Gunsmith isn't claiming yet either. We know now that Zorua got the gun, and even if I didn't think Zorua was Town as it is, even if I didn't think shooting Yosh made complete sense, she wouldn't have any reason to be claiming any of this if she were scum right now, so I really don't know what's going on here.

What I do think happened is that the only way the kill could have gone missing is if the Doctor healed Yosh, and the only way that makes any sense to me given what's been happening is if the Doctor was scum last night. And given that Yosh was top wagon yesterday, and that a Doctor still hasn't claimed yet, it makes complete sense to me that the heal came from scum. So barring any last minute revelations, I think this means the Doctor from last night can't be trusted.

I don't know what's going on with the Gunsmith though. Zorua was someone I would have given the gun to if I were them, so I don't understand why they haven't come forward yet.
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby Rickdaily12 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:20 am

I don't know what this means for my Debil and Kosmo reads either. I still absolutely hate both of their ISOs, and their night actions still don't make much sense to me.

But they still claimed before Dota did, and with the Gunsmith and Doctor currently being rogue, I don't know what to think anymore.
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby Rickdaily12 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:39 am

Phone0Ix wrote:
Rickdaily12 wrote:Phone's night planning in particular did not feel wholesome to me at all; we established that Sheriff checks needed to be in the Doctor/JK/LO pool so that Mafia don't end up shooting people who we confirm as Town,

Ehh? Why would the Sheriff check be in that pool?! That doesn't make sense at all.

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Phone, we literally went over this twice, even before I just explained to you why it was wrong just now:

kosmo16 wrote:1. There is a downside. Mafia can just kill cop target.

Rickdaily12 wrote:Generally speaking, I'm a fan of WIFOMing targets as much as possible. I think Kosmo was the one who pointed out the possibility that Mafia tries to kill exact targets of people like the Sheriff, (which is actually a great point to make, because the lack of Framer/Transporter would otherwise make this perfect xD and I forgot that tidbit too), so yes, in the interest of preserving as much information and actions as possible, basically everything should be WIFOMable in a pool of about 3-5 targets wherever we can, imo.

I'll also add that I don't think Zorua had any malice when suggesting exact Cop targets either, and I like the analysis she's given here. I don't have much more to add that she hasn't said here, this is a good structure and we should plan around with this as much as we can.


Phone0Ix wrote:And how was I pointing fingers everywhere? I pushed Poly and Ezra, and said you, Debil, Eqsy and Obi were suspicious. But uh-huh, I def pointed fingers everywhere, yes, totally. And how did I cause chaos near EoD?

??????????????????????????

You just listed five suspects, bare absolute minimum one of them has to be Town from your point of view, how is this not pointing fingers everywhere? And you were pushing them at EoD as well, like you were [url]here:[/url]

I'm reading again, you weren't quite as erratic about your voting and posting about the final wagon as Cheeze was during the last hour, but you were constantly pushing bad night planning that multiple people have covered are bad, and I don't know how much ignorance I can tolerate about this sort of thing. Scum want us to use our actions in the wrong or suboptimal ways, and when more than three people have to approach you about this, then you're either scum here, or you shouldn't be offering advice about this sort of thing.
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby lemonader666 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:41 am


Votecount 2.4

Yosh1123 | 3 | AbstractGlacial, Jeeper5, ZoruaLuhansk
Jeeper5 | 2 | Ezradekezra, CheezePie
TheDebil | 1 | UzayAltay
Ezradekezra | 1 | kosmo16
CheezePie | 1 | TheDebil
ZoruaLuhansk | 1 | Yosh1123

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You honestly shouldn't have responded at all only to keep replies like this from continuing. Yes of course it's bad to keep attacking an image, but I've said this several times already, this is now a big meme on this site. It's no longer taken seriously and is mainly used to add fuel to the image or just to see how much further downvoted this will be. I was there over 8 years ago when this picture went live, during Derpibooru's early days and read some of the comments and eventually stopped since they kept piling on the Beiber hate. The guy was like 17-18 at the time I think. This isn't the only hated Bieber image and I hope you've looked at the images for it's tag to see what I mean. Justin Bieber is not a very well recieved individual and I'm sure the original uploader, if they ever came back to look at this, is having a big laugh at this achieving number one on the most hated image on the site and getting the highest amount of attention and comments from years gone. I raged at you the other day really because you were trying to tell people to stop over an ancient image that's now meant for silly humor and goals. I can understand some years or months ago yes, but this was back when Derpibooru was starting to pick up and this particular image was gaining a lot of negative attention due to his existing image on the site. Hopefully you know about the Donald Trump tag that also gets very negative attention, this is no different Anyway that's it. We'll need to stop here as you said and move on.
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This is my last response to this, then I'm leaving. As you make accusations of how I insulted every person here, which is why you insulted me back. They insulted Justin Bieber in a very illogical way which is why I decided to make them realise how vacant they were. Not only that but also ridiculing the op, if you see the tags. You had nothing to do with me, and it's misleading how you're routing for them with their needless insults. You say I'm wasting my time when everyone on this image clearly has done that with unnecessary and dippy comments and tags. "The fun" as you put it, is simply just a half baked sea of horrendous and nuisance comments. You don't understand what I meant, there are still comments as I stated from months ago, so clearly there is recent drama here, I'm not bothered about the comments from years back. I'm attempting to realise the recent comments of how mortifying their ridicule actually is. Also I'm not hating on anyone who dislikes Justin Bieber, but the insults on this image are simply unnecessary. As long as they could simply understand how it's unnecessary, then this wouldn't occur. My final comment here, it will probably do something to educate all the users who attack the image. I hope it does to you as well. Learn it and have a splendid day.
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One more thing, nowadays this picture is seen as the biggest downvote meme on the entire site so we're all mainly just adding to the fire for fun. I don't want to speak for everyone about their stance on Justin, but the most downvoted image on the entire site is gonna keep attracting more attention. I'd strongly advise you to just go along with it only because of how old this is or just leave it alone. I personally find it funny how this is the most downvoted image here.
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Yeah yeah sure whatever it's still incredibly stupid to jump into a very old set of comments and play parent, not taking note that no one will bother listening to you anyway. You insulted people here so I insulted you back, plain and simple. It's called not letting you get away with what you said. You're wasting time with this is my point and I won't take back my insults because that was very degrading to read all of that. I might as well invite all of my adult friends from grade school and shame them all for picking on me when we were kids when that all should have been resolved back at the time. 8 years of Over 900 comments, constant tag changes, and 2k downvotes and you jumping in to put a halt to this runaway train will not make you look good in the end.
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Says that this was all from 8 years ago and a while ago and saying that I wasted a comment, but there are hate comments from months ago. Calling me an idiot but the irony in that is laughable. Also insulting me for no good reason. Telling me that I can’t tell other people what to do, when I’m actually attempting to make them realise their own vacancy.
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also you're really in no position to tell anyone here what to do. You showed up very late to this party just to go gung ho in the comments. Use that blacklist feature or hide the comments so you don't waste anymore braincells, which you already have, reading this.
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Says the idiot who comments and hides on several pictures after commenting. Yes, come here over 8 years later to present something so pathetically stupid to the point where no one will take you seriously or even listen to some random moron like you. This is a very old picture, Beiber at the time deserved it and still isn't really welcome on a pony site. Now next go to some much older images and give a speech about how the same thing is possibly happening. Do yourself a favor and stfu and gtfo moron.
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As someone who loves Justin Bieber, I am genuinely surprised by how many incompetent and half-baked users are commenting and obsessing over the number of downvotes on this image. Also adding tags needlessly which are subjective and really prejudicial to the subject of the image and the OP. The comments and the tags paint a picture that these people have never once been educated with an IQ of more than 70, and are people who couldn’t be polite to save their lives. The amount of drama created over Justin Bieber in a simple image is completely mortifying. As they don’t seem to be doing something better with their time, rather than leaving a wave of defamation over a pop singer. The world we live in does show that there are many people out there who can simply embarrass others needlessly, and the comments and tags of this image in particular perfectly symbolises this. While kindness seems to be something in which this fandom is known for, the defamation over this particular image is one of the most dippiest things it has. Not to mention that every fandom has this, but it’s just a nonsensical thing to loathe heavily over a simple picture of a pop singer. Maybe do something better than being too prejudicial, as all of your actions aren’t simple and sensible.

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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby Rickdaily12 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:45 am

Rickdaily12 wrote:You just listed five suspects, bare absolute minimum one of them has to be Town from your point of view, how is this not pointing fingers everywhere? And you were pushing them at EoD as well, like you were [url]here:[/url]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Meant to postthis, and I also found this and this while looking for it.

So yeah, same to Cheeze, this kind of posting either comes from bad Town, or it comes from Scum.
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby Rickdaily12 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:48 am

Yosh1123 wrote:i'm guessing either i don't get night results from n1 as a replacement, zorua is fpsing me to get a reaction, or is just scum

ZoruaLuhansk wrote:
Yosh1123 wrote:i'm guessing either i don't get night results from n1 as a replacement, zorua is fpsing me to get a reaction, or is just scum

I do think this is the sort of an awkward post that a wolf would make when thinking they're mechdomed with a consensus townie
go prove me wrong

This, but also, if Zorua is scum here, then the Gunsmith either should CC her here, or it's your word against both of theirs.
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby kosmo16 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:48 am

Seriously? Gunsmith won't claim? So it's Zorua vs yosh.
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 1 (Early Game)

Postby Jeeper5 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:50 am

@Fenraiser Spoiler:
Fenraiser wrote:@Jeeper
Why are Dota (aka Abstract) and Obi in the town POE? Dota is hard to read and Obi has had low presence this game much like you.

I don't think Obi was ever a particularly aggressive or highposting player from what I've seen of him, and him not having played in 2 years compounds that.
Fenraiser wrote:Given that my style of reading players focuses mostly on reads progressions and perspective slips, well I do try to be somewhat transparent. While I do agree with with you debil to an extent, I don't really think it applies as strongly to people like Obi/Jeeper as we are infrequent posters- people that don't have the time or WIM to interact in thread often have to condense their thoughts in huge posts. And you're disregarding people's personal playstyles and post frequencies.

TheDebil wrote:aka the wallposters

if someone reads the walls keep it in mind

Honestly, this almost seems like it's just a playstyle difference on your end Debil, but I think it's effectively just shade on me to justify a weak case.

I thought you were defending Obi and me over this very issue just a while ago, actually. Do you think there's another reason I should have him in PoE, then?

As for Abstract, I didn't like the two people (Cheeze, Debil) that jumped on poly seemingly only because of the LAMIST post, so Abstract seemed like the least bad option for the 6th cyan since he seemed to be just memeing with his vote on poly. These are the reads I'm least confident in, though, I need to look at these 3 players more deeply.

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Green: Flipped Town
Cyan: Not PoE
Orange: PoE
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby Rickdaily12 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:51 am

kosmo16 wrote:Seriously? Gunsmith won't claim? So it's Zorua vs yosh.

Literally this is the Doctor/Yosh vs Gunsmith/Zorua right now, and both of the PRs aren't claiming, so I'm not impressed at all.

I am more inclined to trust Zorua's side over Yosh's though, her POV makes more sense to me.
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby TheDebil » Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:54 am

Rickdaily12 wrote:I don't know what this means for my Debil and Kosmo reads either. I still absolutely hate both of their ISOs, and their night actions still don't make much sense to me.

But they still claimed before Dota did, and with the Gunsmith and Doctor currently being rogue, I don't know what to think anymore.

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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby TheDebil » Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:02 am

kosmo16 wrote:Seriously? Gunsmith won't claim? So it's Zorua vs yosh.

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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby Yosh1123 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:05 am

low wim due to replacing into a dying slot
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby TheDebil » Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:06 am

Yosh1123 wrote:low wim due to replacing into a dying slot

whats your favourite pokemon
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby Yosh1123 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:10 am

TheDebil wrote:
Yosh1123 wrote:low wim due to replacing into a dying slot

whats your favourite pokemon

smeargle
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby TheDebil » Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:15 am

Yosh1123 wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
Yosh1123 wrote:low wim due to replacing into a dying slot

whats your favourite pokemon

smeargle

i like him too
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby Ezradekezra » Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:17 am

TheDebil wrote:phone's avatar has a red bowtie, red is mafia. chekmate

The Mafia this game is blue though
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby TheDebil » Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:21 am

Ezradekezra wrote:
TheDebil wrote:phone's avatar has a red bowtie, red is mafia. chekmate

The Mafia this game is blue though

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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 1 (Early Game)

Postby Ezradekezra » Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:28 am

Jeeper5 wrote:@Ezradekezra
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Ezradekezra wrote:This post - The part about going under the radar feels hypocritical
This post - I don't see how Phone and me could be w/w in any scenario
This post - From what I understand, Jeeper is voting Hereisme for keeping their vote on Uzay and shading others at the same time, as if it's not possible to have multiple SRs. The whole tone of the post seems wrong as well.

The main reason I'm putting you in orange right now is because of your view on Eqsy, particularly as it relates to being under the radar (which is why I put it in italics).
Ezradekezra wrote:Eqsy's entrance keeps bothering me

I can't tell if they're memeing or if they're trying to do a Legendary Signal Attempt Yo
Ezradekezra wrote:More detailed list:

Towny - Uzay, Zorua
Kinda Towny - Rick, Poly
Null - Everyone not mentioned
Kinda Scummy - Phone
Scummy - Jeeper, Debil

So we have two reasons for you to scumread Eqsy, apparently, yet you still have him as null.

Activity is NAI for Eqsy because they're usually pretty inactive

Which leaves me with what could be a meme or could be a Legendary Signal Attempt Yo

So yeah I'm gonna leave them at null for now
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby Ezradekezra » Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:35 am

Although Yosh trying to push Zorua doesn't look very good
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby Yosh1123 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:49 am

Ezradekezra wrote:Although Yosh trying to push Zorua doesn't look very good

what? what else am i supposed to do
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby TheDebil » Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:53 am

Yosh1123 wrote:
Ezradekezra wrote:Although Yosh trying to push Zorua doesn't look very good

what? what else am i supposed to do

cry, piss your pants, maybe shit and cum?
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby Yosh1123 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:57 am

TheDebil wrote:
Yosh1123 wrote:
Ezradekezra wrote:Although Yosh trying to push Zorua doesn't look very good

what? what else am i supposed to do

cry, piss your pants, maybe shit and cum?

yes i could do that

or i could not do that
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby AbstractGlacial » Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:58 am

Yosh1123 wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
Yosh1123 wrote:
Ezradekezra wrote:Although Yosh trying to push Zorua doesn't look very good

what? what else am i supposed to do

cry, piss your pants, maybe shit and cum?

yes i could do that

or i could not do that

let's split
you will cry
i will piss my pants
debil will shit
and cheeze will cry
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby AbstractGlacial » Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:59 am

AbstractGlacial wrote:
Yosh1123 wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
Yosh1123 wrote:
Ezradekezra wrote:Although Yosh trying to push Zorua doesn't look very good

what? what else am i supposed to do

cry, piss your pants, maybe shit and cum?

yes i could do that

or i could not do that

let's split
you will cry
i will piss my pants
debil will shit
and cheeze will cry

lmao i meant to write cum there at the end
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Re: VFM77 | Evolve Shaman Sucks | Day 2 (Push)

Postby Yosh1123 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:01 pm

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