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Re: XX14 | Spooky Lovers | Day 2

Postby Royee » Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:48 am

kosmo16 wrote:Checked Fen's ISO. We should lynch him.

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Re: XX14 | Spooky Lovers | Day 2

Postby Arcthurus » Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:54 am

i looked through fens (and sabers) iso and i think theyre fine tbh

theres nothing that particularly jumps at me as scummy and i can kind of understand their d1 progression

they reasoned out why ezras comments and behavior early on made sense from their pov and did the same for royee hence why they stayed away from those two wagons as the day went on -- both things are opposite to what saber did, so theres already a dissonance between his play and the "mafia" play

i think their kmenx push was consistent even if hyperspecifically based on one thing, which was kmenx supposedly taking the "50/50" comment too far to frame royee -- which i can understand fen doing because it was a weird comment that took me a lot to understand too and he prolly thought it was easy to royees words, either way i understand where he comes from

when it came to the kosmo/saber wagons he claimed both were a null but specified that kosmo felt townier to him with the responses -- im not entirely sure how to interpret this but its not exactly the best way to prevent your scumbuddy from being lynched

theres probably something to be said about saber first mentioning fen when giving their poe "ezra/royee/fen but im willing to drop fen" and then at eod going "id be willing to cfd to fen" (then "nvm the cfd to fen is bad" though fen only had one vote when saber said that so shrug) -- im not sure what that something to be said is but i think it leans more town than not?

tl;dr not really an impressive wagon, two stars


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Re: XX14 | Spooky Lovers | Day 2

Postby Arcthurus » Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:55 am

Arcthurus wrote:i looked through fens (and sabers) iso and i think theyre fine tbh

theres nothing that particularly jumps at me as scummy and i can kind of understand their d1 progression

they reasoned out why ezras comments and behavior early on made sense from their pov and did the same for royee hence why they stayed away from those two wagons as the day went on -- both things are opposite to what saber did, so theres already a dissonance between his play and the "mafia" play

i think their kmenx push was consistent even if hyperspecifically based on one thing, which was kmenx supposedly taking the "50/50" comment too far to frame royee -- which i can understand fen doing because it was a weird comment that took me a lot to understand too and he prolly thought it was easy to twist royees words, either way i understand where he comes from

when it came to the kosmo/saber wagons he claimed both were a null but specified that kosmo felt townier to him with the responses -- im not entirely sure how to interpret this but its not exactly the best way to prevent your scumbuddy from being lynched

theres probably something to be said about saber first mentioning fen when giving their poe "ezra/royee/fen but im willing to drop fen" and then at eod going "id be willing to cfd to fen" (then "nvm the cfd to fen is bad" though fen only had one vote when saber said that so shrug) -- im not sure what that something to be said is but i think it leans more town than not?

tl;dr not really an impressive wagon, two stars


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Re: XX14 | Spooky Lovers | Day 2

Postby Arcthurus » Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:01 am

its not great that they didnt vote on saber at eod, its slightly less bad because he also didnt vote royee who was the counterwagon, but they stuck to the end of day sticking to their guns and voting kmenx which is not complete garbage


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Re: XX14 | Spooky Lovers | Day 2

Postby Fenraiser » Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:59 am

Ive been legitimately busy due to work and some personal issues but I am off tomorrow so I'll answer you beautiful pmonsters then (I am okay, just busy).
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Re: XX14 | Spooky Lovers | Day 2

Postby Turfgrass » Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:26 am

Fenraiser wrote:Ive been legitimately busy due to work and some personal issues but I am off tomorrow so I'll answer you beautiful pmonsters then (I am okay, just busy).

Inactivity is mostly why, I just wanted him to talk to me
Miss u fen <3
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Re: XX14 | Spooky Lovers | Day 2

Postby Turfgrass » Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:27 am

Turfgrass wrote:
Fenraiser wrote:Ive been legitimately busy due to work and some personal issues but I am off tomorrow so I'll answer you beautiful pmonsters then (I am okay, just busy).

Inactivity is mostly why, I just wanted him to talk to me
Miss u fen <3

*there's no particular reason why, like how I voted with kosmo. Just wanted to see what would happen if anything
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Re: XX14 | Spooky Lovers | Day 2

Postby Turfgrass » Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:28 am

Arcthurus wrote:WCS for us thats a 4v2 (mylo) by d5

What does this mean?
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Re: XX14 | Spooky Lovers | Day 2

Postby Varanus » Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:18 am

Turfgrass wrote:
Arcthurus wrote:WCS for us thats a 4v2 (mylo) by d5

What does this mean?

In the worst case scenario, there will be four town and two scum (which means if we mislynch, we lose) by day five
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Re: XX14 | Spooky Lovers | Day 2

Postby ryanyb » Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:18 am

Current Vote Count
Player Votes Voters
  # Votes Until Majority


Not Voting: Fenraiser, UzayAltay, ARAndomDouche, royee,
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Re: XX14 | Spooky Lovers | Day 2

Postby Varanus » Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:18 am

what the fuck is this
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Re: XX14 | Spooky Lovers | Day 2

Postby Ezradekezra » Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:19 am

Can anyone catch me up with what's happened?
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Re: XX14 | Spooky Lovers | Day 2

Postby Varanus » Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:19 am

It's like you took turf and the 4 scummiest player in the game, and jammed them all on one wagon
How is that even possible
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Re: XX14 | Spooky Lovers | Day 2

Postby ryanyb » Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:20 am

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Re: XX14 | Spooky Lovers | Day 2

Postby Ezradekezra » Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:21 am

No way in hell am I gonna vote Fenraiser, seeing how all of my SRs are on the wagon.
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Re: XX14 | Spooky Lovers | Day 2

Postby ryanyb » Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:24 am

Game Moderator Message: Oh, also. In some parts of the world, the time just changed overnight because of daylight savings time. If people could message me OUTSIDE the game thread (discord / forum PM) if they'd like to keep EOD's at 4:00 CST for the rest of the game, or if we should adjust to 5:00 CST along with daylight savings time.

And just to make this easier, the options are
1) Stay the same (that means the game ends at 4:00 CST, and technically we lose an hour and people in non-day light savings time zones need to compensate)
2) Shift forward to compensate -- EOD now at 5:00 CST.
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Re: XX14 | Spooky Lovers | Day 2

Postby Royee » Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:28 am

i dont understand var?
does they mean that watchme/chubby/leth/kosmo are scummy
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Re: XX14 | Spooky Lovers | Day 2

Postby Arcthurus » Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:30 am

yeah i dont get why you think kosmo is scummy var


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Re: XX14 | Spooky Lovers | Day 2

Postby Varanus » Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:34 am

probably for the same reason I dislike royee
annoying antitown plays
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Re: XX14 | Spooky Lovers | Day 2

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:45 am

Let me catch-up.
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Re: XX14 | Spooky Lovers | Day 2

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:48 am

Varanus wrote:I sure do love how we're going to have a game state that doesn't change until 2 hours before EoD when some shitters attempt to save watchme from being lynched

Write me between shitters as I am not voting to lynch a vig claim like that.
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Re: XX14 | Spooky Lovers | Day 2

Postby Ezradekezra » Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:51 am

I think Watchme's Vigi claim is BS, but it will self-resolve as long as the real Vigi doesn't die.

I'm gonna vote my other top SR for now.

/vote Chubby
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Re: XX14 | Spooky Lovers | Day 2

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:54 am

Arcthurus wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Arcthurus wrote:i think in this situation a smart vig keeps quiet and doesnt put their neck out there to cc someone who should be very clearly scum

You mean a smart vig that dont know anything about calculations as a smart vig who know some about calculations cc immedieatly.


the real vig doesnt HAVE to claim here though
or at least imo they shouldnt have to
Well they don't have to claim here
Only thing is they have to claim until EOD if they want credit from me

I hid as PR when my slot is stolen before, but not in a flipped game, and changed my decision and claimed when I was end of what can I do without claiming, which happened in a few hours or maybe an irl day, I dont remember exact detail.

@Host is 1-shot RB usable in addition to other action/s?
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NFM 48 , NFM 49 , TFM 65 ,TFM 66 , Episode XV ,TFM68 ,VFM 34, NFM61 , VFM42 , SFM53, VFM43,17E,VFM49,SFM60,CFM19,VFM54, EpisodeXIX, SFM63, 19E, 19F ,VFM62 ,VFM63,XX3,VFM66,XX5,VFM67,XX6,SFM72,XX8,VFM70,XX10,SFM76,SFM80
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Re: XX14 | Spooky Lovers | Day 2

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:57 am

watchme1 wrote:So apprently if you're the only person who claims vig in a rolelist where a vigi is guaranteed to roll then you're scum

amazing

great

insane

I'm just baffled that people can be this stubborn about someone being scum.

Hey you should be happy that we arent lynching you for proving your greencheck is town
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NFM 48 , NFM 49 , TFM 65 ,TFM 66 , Episode XV ,TFM68 ,VFM 34, NFM61 , VFM42 , SFM53, VFM43,17E,VFM49,SFM60,CFM19,VFM54, EpisodeXIX, SFM63, 19E, 19F ,VFM62 ,VFM63,XX3,VFM66,XX5,VFM67,XX6,SFM72,XX8,VFM70,XX10,SFM76,SFM80
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Re: XX14 | Spooky Lovers | Day 2

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:00 am

ChubbyMooshroom9 wrote:
Arcthurus wrote:i dont need the real vig to step up and counterclaim watchme to know theyre scum

its that simple

or you just wait until night 3 for

a)real vig to shoot watchme
b)watchme to shoot someone they said they would
That isnt how it works in any condition
A can be easily shut down by vig dying before there/somebody healing watchme
B can be shut down by mafia no killing/watchme mafia killing that person
Though I think vig would cc so watchme is safe for now
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NFM 48 , NFM 49 , TFM 65 ,TFM 66 , Episode XV ,TFM68 ,VFM 34, NFM61 , VFM42 , SFM53, VFM43,17E,VFM49,SFM60,CFM19,VFM54, EpisodeXIX, SFM63, 19E, 19F ,VFM62 ,VFM63,XX3,VFM66,XX5,VFM67,XX6,SFM72,XX8,VFM70,XX10,SFM76,SFM80
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