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VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Game Over

Postby Chemist1422 » Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:50 am

VFM76: JOAT^2+
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Rules:

  1. All forum and FM rules apply.
  2. I will not tolerate any sort of harassment. Use common sense, and if you have an issue with something someone says, let me know.
  3. Play towards your win condition. Jesting is banned as well.
  4. Don't use any sort of resources outside of the game thread to try to gain an advantage. Communication with other players absolutely falls under this.
  5. Don't reference any sort of communication with the moderator.
  6. Do not post after day has clearly ended. I will enforce this.
  7. If you don't post content for 24 hours, you will be prodded. Failing to respond to a prod by posting in-thread means replacement, as does getting prodded twice. If you're paying attention, you'll have noticed that this does in fact have consequences.
  8. All votes must be labeled as "/vote [player]" or "/unvote". "/vote unvote" is okay too.
  9. Don't steal my modcolor. If you need to color something green, #00BF00 is an acceptable substitute. Just don't abuse it.

Setup:
Town JOAT (Tracker/Doctor/Motion Detector) x2
Vanilla Town x10

Mafia Goon x3

  • JOATs must use all powers before using one again. For example, Tracker -> MD -> Tracker -> Doctor is not allowed, but Tracker -> MD -> Doctor -> Tracker is.
  • JOATs may not target the same person with consecutive actions, regardless of what those actions are.
  • Mafia have a factional strongman ability, and a factional ninja ability. If one is used, it cannot be used again until the other is used.

Playerlist:
  1. watchme1
  2. fwogcarf
  3. LOLingHyena
  4. ejjinami
  5. ManateeDude
  6. ZoruaLuhansk
  7. ryanyb
  8. Flake
  9. UzayAltay
  10. CheezePie
  11. kosmo16
  12. MichaelgRook
  13. dota2reporter
  14. Jeeper5
  15. TheDebil
mist ~ she/her

i guess this is goodbye?
(still here for danganronpa i guess)


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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Setup

Postby Chemist1422 » Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:54 am

Living Players:
  1. watchme1 (ISO)
  2. fwogcarf (ISO) polypies73 (ISO)
  3. LOLingHyena (ISO)
  4. ZoruaLuhansk (ISO)
  5. Flake (ISO)
  6. kosmo16 (ISO)

Host ISO

Graveyard:
Insert joke here
  1. MichaelgRook (ISO) - Eliminated D1 - Town JOAT
  2. CheezePie (ISO) - Killed N1 - Vanilla Town
  3. TheDebil (ISO) - Modkilled D2 - Vanilla Town
  4. ryanyb (ISO) - Killed N2 - Vanilla Town
  5. ManateeDude* (ISO) Tiltedcomedian (ISO) - Eliminated D3 - Town JOAT
  6. ejjinami (ISO) - Killed N3 - Vanilla Town
  7. dota2reporter (ISO) Ezradekezra (ISO) - Eliminated D4 - Vanilla Town
  8. Jeeper5 (ISO) - Killed N4 - Vanilla Town
  9. UzayAltay* (ISO) - Eliminated D5 - Vanilla Town
mist ~ she/her

i guess this is goodbye?
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Setup

Postby Chemist1422 » Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:02 am

Rolecards will be going out now. Since it's an open setup and I haven't posted the format anywhere, they can be found in the below spoiler.

Spoiler:
Vanilla Townie


You are a Vanilla Townie.

You have no abilities but your voice and your vote.

You win if all the mafia have been killed.


Town JOAT


You are a Jack-of-All-Trades.

Each night, you may choose from one of the following actions. You cannot repeat actions until all three have been used.
  • Tracker - Target a player and see who they visited.
  • Motion Detector - Target a player. You will be informed if they visited someone or were visited.
  • Doctor - Target a player. If they are attacked at night, they will survive.

You win if all the mafia have been killed.


Mafia Goon


You are a Mafia Goon. Your partners are [X] and [Y]. The three of you share a factional kill that you can choose to make strongman or ninja. However, you cannot use the same type of factional kill twice in a row.

At any time, you may discuss the game with them here.

You win when you reach parity with the town, or nothing can stop this from occuring.
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Setup

Postby Chemist1422 » Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:13 am

All rolecards have been sent out.

Day will start on the hour in about 45 minutes.
mist ~ she/her

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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:00 pm



The flavor in this game will be me showcasing some of my favorite SiIvaGunner rips, because I couldn't think of anything better.

So what better way to start off than with the most watched video on the channel?

Day 1 starts!
It will end on October 19th at 1:00 PM CDT! Majority is disabled Day 1, as it was in the original JOAT^2 setup.
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 1

Postby ManateeDude » Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:00 pm

first
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:01 pm

A quick note about WW theory and how I will play this game. Note that the arguments and facts presented here are indisputable, and that I will not engage in arguments about them, because those arguments are you wasting everyone else's time about meta that is well and comprehensively established. Go make reads so we can read you.

I've reflected on my role and realized that there is a GTO play for me in this game, and therefore I am compelled to pursue it. I am going to brute force my clearness immediately upon the opening of the thread.

I am hard-claiming, I am the JOAT.

Benefits:

1. I will survive tonight: I do not believe the wolves are able to kill me tonight, because it is so objectively unlikely that I would ever do this as the JOAT. I believe that this decision reduces the importance of the JOAT-cover to be provided by all of you to the point of it being negligible. The wolves have already been outplayed, as it were.

2. I'm lock clear: All of you already know I'm lock clear, because it is so objectively unlikely that I would do this as a wolf. You know this for at least two reasons. First, this is the easiest, lowest-stress, lowest-demand game to wolf in that I've ever played in (except for turbos). I have no need to complicate my life, as a wolf, by open-claiming on thread open, when all Ihave to do is provide like a C-level wolf game to probably win. This is the rare instance where you literally know that I have a billion other options as a wolf, AND that I would pursue probably ALL of them before pursuing this. Second, I engage in FPS exceedingly rarely, which necessarily means that I *know* that this will look WEIRD and SHOCKING to you. There is no merit to a wolf play that instantly generates WEIRD and SHOCKED responses that I would be obligated to finesse and manage for the remainder of the game. As a villager, which I am, the burden is totally on you to not $#@! up and lynch me. Makes my life super awesome.

3. There are only 13 players you need to try to read, rather than 14: I have already provided a "free" check of me in a game with a mere 15 players. Our win equity is dramatically improved by my being entirely off the table for the entire game.

Conclusion:

The burden of sound reasoning is now entirely upon you. I am the JOAT, and thus a villager, and thus lock clear. The game is immediately simpler than it would otherwise have been, because of my decision. Now, let us enjoy that benefit and win the game.

Also, to preempt a lengthy and pointless discussion.

It is NOT dumb to ponder this post and convince yourself of its wisdom. That is your obligation as a villager, and I encourage you to think it over for as long as it takes to quell your (initially valid but ultimately unnecessary) concerns.

It IS dumb to, AFTER doing that pondering, conclude that I'm "neutral" or "wolfy." That is legitimately stupid, and I won't entertain it. ONE of the reasons it is a stupid conclusion is that the upside of this play as a wolf is absolutely DWARFED by the upside of this play as a villager. There is no equivalency between the EV gain for wolf-me in this position and villager-me in this position. They're universes apart. That means I wouldn't DO the poorer option of the two (by extension, wolf-me also wouldn't BELIEVE that I could convince the entire game of the truth of these assertions for the entire game, which as an end-game wolf I would have to believe if this strategem were to be worth pursuing). A SECOND reason that conclusion is stupid is that the EV bonus of doing this as a wolf is COMPLETELY DWARFED by me baseline wolf EV anyway. Anything that complicates my wolfing life is RIDICULOUSLY stupid for me to do, given that my wolfing life is ALREADY one of the smoothest, highest expectation wolfing lives in WW history anyway. A THIRD reason that conclusion is stupid is that you would probably have to worry about being EXPLOITED by this gambit in order to get there. However, I have NEVER engaged in this, or any similar, gambit in my entire career, meaning that if there IS exploitation to be had with this play, it is in FUTURE GAMES, not this game. For these reasons, pressuring me is extremely wolfy and should not be engaged in by any villager, ever, in this game. There will be no less productive pursuit than that in this game.

Sucks for the wolves when meta is wielded this brutally, but my allegiance is plain and my strategy perfect. Get #rekt.

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46-46 Spoiler: Town Games(27-32)

NFM50,NFM51,NFM52,14D,14E, NFM54 ,14H (AF), 14G, NFM 55, NFM 56, 15C, NFM 57, NFM 58,15F,SFM45,16B, VFM36, 16D , SFM 47 , VFM38, NFM62 , 16G ,VFM 39, EpisodeXVII, 17B , 17C , VFM44 , 17D , 17F,18C,18D,18E,VFM55,VFM57,SFM64, 19C,VFM58,VFM59 ,19D,VFM60,SFM66,SFM67,VFM64,SFM70,VFM69,XX7,XX9, VFM71,VFM72, VFM73, VFM74, 21A,VFM75,VFM76,XX14,VFM77,XX16,VFM78,VFM79

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NFM 48 , NFM 49 , TFM 65 ,TFM 66 , Episode XV ,TFM68 ,VFM 34, NFM61 , VFM42 , SFM53, VFM43,17E,VFM49,SFM60,CFM19,VFM54, EpisodeXIX, SFM63, 19E, 19F ,VFM62 ,VFM63,XX3,VFM66,XX5,VFM67,XX6,SFM72,XX8,VFM70,XX10,SFM76,SFM80
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 1

Postby CheezePie » Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:01 pm

e

/vote chemist
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:02 pm

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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 1

Postby ManateeDude » Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:02 pm

im here to put effort into one game before siteflaking for a few months again

pedit uh huh
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 1

Postby CheezePie » Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:02 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:CheezePie |1| CheezePie

oh hell no
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 1

Postby ManateeDude » Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:03 pm

/vote cheeze

ez wagon
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 1

Postby CheezePie » Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:03 pm

ManateeDude wrote:/vote cheeze

ez wagon

you right let's fucking go
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:03 pm

Oh Wait If We vote Chemist Do We auotomaticly vote Cheeze?
Nice feature TBH.

/vote Chemist
46-46 Spoiler: Town Games(27-32)

NFM50,NFM51,NFM52,14D,14E, NFM54 ,14H (AF), 14G, NFM 55, NFM 56, 15C, NFM 57, NFM 58,15F,SFM45,16B, VFM36, 16D , SFM 47 , VFM38, NFM62 , 16G ,VFM 39, EpisodeXVII, 17B , 17C , VFM44 , 17D , 17F,18C,18D,18E,VFM55,VFM57,SFM64, 19C,VFM58,VFM59 ,19D,VFM60,SFM66,SFM67,VFM64,SFM70,VFM69,XX7,XX9, VFM71,VFM72, VFM73, VFM74, 21A,VFM75,VFM76,XX14,VFM77,XX16,VFM78,VFM79

Scum Games (19-14)

NFM 48 , NFM 49 , TFM 65 ,TFM 66 , Episode XV ,TFM68 ,VFM 34, NFM61 , VFM42 , SFM53, VFM43,17E,VFM49,SFM60,CFM19,VFM54, EpisodeXIX, SFM63, 19E, 19F ,VFM62 ,VFM63,XX3,VFM66,XX5,VFM67,XX6,SFM72,XX8,VFM70,XX10,SFM76,SFM80
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 1

Postby ZoruaLuhansk » Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:03 pm

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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 1

Postby ZoruaLuhansk » Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:04 pm

UzayAltay wrote:Oh Wait If We vote Chemist Do We auotomaticly vote Cheeze?
Nice feature TBH.

/vote Chemist

life hack
there is an easier way tho

/vote Cheeze
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 1

Postby CheezePie » Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:04 pm

i have decided that
i hate everyone
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:04 pm

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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 1

Postby ryanyb » Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:05 pm

im vt
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 1

Postby CheezePie » Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:05 pm

for no particular reason
just
yes
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 1

Postby ryanyb » Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:05 pm

anyway now that that's out of the way
time to dust off my brain

do I know cheese?
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 1

Postby CheezePie » Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:06 pm

ryanyb wrote:anyway now that that's out of the way
time to dust off my brain

do I know cheese?

do I know ryanyb?
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 1

Postby ZoruaLuhansk » Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:07 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:You cannot kill me in a way that matters.

We can, we just need your address
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:07 pm

ZoruaLuhansk wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:Oh Wait If We vote Chemist Do We auotomaticly vote Cheeze?
Nice feature TBH.

/vote Chemist

life hack
there is an easier way tho

/vote Cheeze

No when I can shortcut Chemist as Chem but not shortcut Cheeze

(P.edit : :(

Anyway let me know If Cheeze comes to L1.)
ryanyb wrote:anyway now that that's out of the way
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46-46 Spoiler: Town Games(27-32)

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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 1

Postby ZoruaLuhansk » Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:09 pm

The power of ryan compells me to not randomly claim mafia goon
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