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XX11 | RDR2 | GAME OVER (O'Driscoll Traitors win!)

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⍟ [1] JacksonVirgo --> AcidicBreeze --> Bottlenose
⍟ [2] Royee
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⍟ [7] cob709
⍟ [8] ElusiveBelle
⍟ [9] ScorpioDiAngelo --> Chemist1422
⍟ [10] dolphina --> Hollyleaf0512
⍟ [11] EvilDeanius0
⍟ [12] MiniMegabyte --> Jalandh
⍟ [13] kosmo16
⍟ [14] Hellosither --> TheDebil
⍟ [15] 0verki11
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Re: XX11 | Red Dead Redemption 2 | Setting Up...

Postby SparkingJay » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:18 am

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⍟ [11] EvilDeanius0 - Lynched D1 - Citizen [Uncle]
⍟ [15] 0verki11 - Killed N1 - Cop [Arthur Morgan]
⍟ [5] CheezePie - Killed N1 - Neighbour [Abigail Roberts]
⍟ [13] kosmo16 - Lynched D2 - Prankster [Hosea Matthews]
⍟ [3] dota2reporter - Killed N2 - Tracker [Charles Smith]
⍟ [12] Jalandh - Killed N2 - Citizen [Javier Escuella]
⍟ [9] Chemist1422 - Killed N2 - Medium [Reverend Swanson]
⍟ [10] Hollyleaf0512 - Lynched D3 - Citizen [Mary-Beth Gaskill]
⍟ [4] watchme1 - Killed N3 - Doctor [Lenny Summers]
⍟ [16] TheWabbit - Lynched D4 - Consort [Karen Jones]

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Re: XX11 | Red Dead Redemption 2 | Setting Up...

Postby SparkingJay » Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:41 pm

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Re: XX11 | Red Dead Redemption 2 | Setting Up...

Postby SparkingJay » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:00 am

You have all been on the run for weeks after the events that transpired on that Ferry in Blackwater. Quickly packing up your bags and heading north away from the law, you left most of your personal belongings behind. Every now and then someone talks about how fast the law was on the scene, could it have been a trap? Could a traitor be within the camp? These questions never seem to leave your minds and the thought of betrayal sickened the gang. When you found an old abandoned mining town called Colter to seek temporary shelter, Dutch rallied everyone up. Eyes were darting in all directions and you all knew what was going to happen...



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Re: XX11 | Red Dead Redemption 2 | Setting Up...

Postby Royee » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:00 am

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Re: XX11 | Red Dead Redemption 2 | Setting Up...

Postby watchme1 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:01 am

A quick note about WW theory and how I will play this game. Note that the arguments and facts presented here are indisputable, and that I will not engage in arguments about them, because those arguments are you wasting everyone else's time about meta that is well and comprehensively established. Go make reads so we can read you.

I've reflected on my role and realized that there is a GTO play for me in this game, and therefore I am compelled to pursue it. I am going to brute force my clearness immediately upon the opening of the thread.

I am hard-claiming, I am a member of Van Der Linde Gang
Benefits:

1. I will survive tonight: I do not believe the wolves are able to kill me tonight, because it is so objectively unlikely that I would ever do this as a member of Van Der Linde Gang. I believe that this decision reduces the importance of the member of Van Der Linde Gangl cover to be provided by all of you to the point of it being negligible. The wolves have already been outplayed, as it were.

2. I'm lock clear: All of you already know I'm lock clear, because it is so objectively unlikely that I would do this as a wolf. You know this for at least two reasons. First, this is the easiest, lowest-stress, lowest-demand game to wolf in that I've ever played in (except for turbos). I have no need to complicate my life, as a wolf, by open-claiming on thread open, when all I have to do is provide like a C-level wolf game to probably win. This is the rare instance where you literally know that I have a billion other options as a wolf, AND that I would pursue probably ALL of them before pursuing this. Second, I engage in FPS exceedingly rarely, which necessarily means that I *know* that this will look WEIRD and SHOCKING to you. There is no merit to a wolf play that instantly generates WEIRD and SHOCKED responses that I would be obligated to finesse and manage for the remainder of the game. As a villager, which I am, the burden is totally on you to not $#@! up and lynch me. Makes my life super awesome.

3. There are only 14 players you need to try to read, rather than 15: I have already provided a "free" check of me in a game with a mere 16 players. Our win equity is dramatically improved by my being entirely off the table for the entire game.

Conclusion:

The burden of sound reasoning is now entirely upon you. I am a member of Van Der Linde Gang, and thus a villager, and thus lock clear. The game is immediately simpler than it would otherwise have been, because of my decision. Now, let us enjoy that benefit and win the game.

Also, to preempt a lengthy and pointless discussion.

It is NOT dumb to ponder this post and convince yourself of its wisdom. That is your obligation as not a member of Van Der Linde Gang, and I encourage you to think it over for as long as it takes to quell your (initially valid but ultimately unnecessary) concerns.

It IS dumb to, AFTER doing that pondering, conclude that I'm "neutral" or "wolfy." That is legitimately stupid, and I won't entertain it. ONE of the reasons it is a stupid conclusion is that the upside of this play as a wolf is absolutely DWARFED by the upside of this play as a villager. There is no equivalency between the EV gain for wolf-me in this position and villager-me in this position. They're universes apart. That means I wouldn't DO the poorer option of the two (by extension, wolf-me also wouldn't BELIEVE that I could convince the entire game of the truth of these assertions for the entire game, which as an end-game wolf I would have to believe if this strategem were to be worth pursuing). A SECOND reason that conclusion is stupid is that the EV bonus of doing this as a wolf is COMPLETELY DWARFED by me baseline wolf EV anyway. Anything that complicates my wolfing life is RIDICULOUSLY stupid for me to do, given that my wolfing life is ALREADY one of the smoothest, highest expectation wolfing lives in WW history anyway. A THIRD reason that conclusion is stupid is that you would probably have to worry about being EXPLOITED by this gambit in order to get there. However, I have NEVER engaged in this, or any similar, gambit in my entire career, meaning that if there IS exploitation to be had with this play, it is in FUTURE GAMES, not this game. For these reasons, pressuring me is extremely wolfy and should not be engaged in by any villager, ever, in this game. There will be no less productive pursuit than that in this game.

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Re: XX11 | Red Dead Redemption 2 | Setting Up...

Postby dota2reporter » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:01 am

hello, i like getting up early, working till the sun drops from the sky, and heading to the saloon to buy some drinks and relax
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Re: XX11 | Red Dead Redemption 2 | Setting Up...

Postby CheezePie » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:02 am

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Re: XX11 | Red Dead Redemption 2 | Day 1

Postby CheezePie » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:04 am

i too enjoy getting up early and torturing myself
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Re: XX11 | Red Dead Redemption 2 | Setting Up...

Postby watchme1 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:04 am

CheezePie wrote:/vote watchme1
https://youtu.be/RpkQEq75y18


/vote cheeze

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Re: XX11 | Red Dead Redemption 2 | Day 1

Postby SparkingJay » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:04 am

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Re: XX11 | Red Dead Redemption 2 | Day 1

Postby Royee » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:05 am

CheezePie wrote:i too enjoy getting up early and torturing myself
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CheezePie wrote:/vote watchme1
https://youtu.be/RpkQEq75y18


/vote cheeze

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Re: XX11 | Red Dead Redemption 2 | Day 1

Postby CheezePie » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:05 am

An unstoppable force has met an immovable object.

something liek that
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Re: XX11 | Red Dead Redemption 2 | Day 1

Postby dota2reporter » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:06 am

i would want to say that watchme is town for using the van lin diere thing

but im pretty sure mafia got fakeclaims so rip
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Re: XX11 | Red Dead Redemption 2 | Day 1

Postby watchme1 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:07 am

dota2reporter wrote:i would want to say that watchme is town for using the van lin diere thing

but im pretty sure mafia got fakeclaims so rip


Asked, they get no fake claims since it's standard
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Re: XX11 | Red Dead Redemption 2 | Day 1

Postby JacksonVirgo » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:07 am

GUYS I AM DOING A NEXT LEVEL PLAY!
A LEGENDARY SIGNAL ATTEMPT!

I AM A NEUTRAL EVIL YO
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Re: XX11 | Red Dead Redemption 2 | Day 1

Postby CheezePie » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:07 am

damn y'all be reading people already geez
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Re: XX11 | Red Dead Redemption 2 | Day 1

Postby watchme1 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:08 am

CheezePie wrote:An unstoppable force has met an immovable object.

something liek that


It seems we have a conflict of interest my friend
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Re: XX11 | Red Dead Redemption 2 | Day 1

Postby Royee » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:08 am

dota2reporter wrote:i would want to say that watchme is town for using the van lin diere thing

but im pretty sure mafia got fakeclaims so rip

why would that make watchme town
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Re: XX11 | Red Dead Redemption 2 | Day 1

Postby watchme1 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:08 am

In all seriousness I have reasons why this is the first game ever where my entrance is a copypasta
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Re: XX11 | Red Dead Redemption 2 | Day 1

Postby JacksonVirgo » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:09 am

Also
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Re: XX11 | Red Dead Redemption 2 | Day 1

Postby CheezePie » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:09 am

watchme1 wrote:In all seriousness I have reasons why this is the first game ever where my entrance is a copypasta

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Re: XX11 | Red Dead Redemption 2 | Day 1

Postby Royee » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:09 am

watchme1 wrote:In all seriousness I have reasons why this is the first game ever where my entrance is a copypasta

nobody has asked you that though
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Re: XX11 | Red Dead Redemption 2 | Day 1

Postby watchme1 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:10 am

Royee wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:i would want to say that watchme is town for using the van lin diere thing

but im pretty sure mafia got fakeclaims so rip

why would that make watchme town


Better question, why did you ask if it makes me town rather than scum
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Re: XX11 | Red Dead Redemption 2 | Day 1

Postby watchme1 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:10 am

Royee wrote:
watchme1 wrote:In all seriousness I have reasons why this is the first game ever where my entrance is a copypasta

nobody has asked you that though


I asked myself
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