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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:52 pm
by Chemist1422
the nokill in F4 was an idea I came up with on like, N3

so

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:52 pm
by Royee
i had a feeling that sword would flip red however the no kill was too odd
the self meta makes sword look bad
literally i am voicing it out each game.
conclusion, don't overthink and vote off these sort of stuff

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:58 pm
by TheDebil
also get clapped flake who needs math when u can lynch chemist

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:00 pm
by watchme1
If there was no kill or lynch for 3 days would we draw

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:27 pm
by UzayAltay
Good job , team.
Gg to everyone.
I have more words to say but I prefer to speak at the morning , but again, GG.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:44 pm
by cob709
Hellosither wrote:imo town didn't make any obvious blunders other than cob shooting dolphina. wolves did good at making sure the optimal options were usually the wrong ones and that's what made it close

nah
town won

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:22 pm
by ICECLIMBERS
Swordsworth carrying as scum? 2020 really will be the end.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:26 pm
by ICECLIMBERS
Feel like nokilling in F4 is almost always the best play. Shift the dilemma onto town.

Spoiler:
dota2reporter wrote:
watchme1 wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:
watchme1 wrote:something something

Me thinks s!dota would be all green with me getting lynched here. t!dota I feel would re-evaluate my lynch again before confirmation of wanting me dead

i never vote scum as scum except redchecks so im already lockclear


Uwu is this self meta I see xd

5 scum games on mafiauniverse, have yet to broken the rule

This veers into trust tell territory; I'd avoid making arguments like this.

Varanus wrote:actually there's probably a lot more to go back to the balance board for than just that, but I'll deal with that once I get to changing edge cases

Mean is 4.5 and standard deviation is 1.5, meaning that there's a ~2/3 chance of having 3-6, and having 8 is super rare.
I do think it's weird that if, say, a bodyguard had been a doctor instead mafia would've been up against 6 prs with only 1 kpn. Maybe make it some kind of factional ability, perhaps x-shot, or until a certain amount?
I like how neither scum nor town can know the true setup, only the constraints of it with enough information, which is unlike a matrix.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:27 pm
by Varanus
I met Swordsworth at an aquarium I was working at. He said, "Hey, how much do I have to pay you to let me swim in the shark tank?" I said, "Swordsworth, I respect you, but you know you wouldn't last ten minutes in that cage." He let out a deep sigh and said, "Would you say that to 2015 Swordsworth?"

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:57 pm
by ICECLIMBERS
Varanus wrote:I met Swordsworth at an aquarium I was working at. He said, "Hey, how much do I have to pay you to let me swim in the shark tank?" I said, "Swordsworth, I respect you, but you know you wouldn't last ten minutes in that cage." He let out a deep sigh and said, "Would you say that to 2015 Swordsworth?"

Image
Spoiler: you could do the same for me tbh

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:09 pm
by Swordsworth
Why do I never get crippling migraines as town

this happened in dual mafia 2 as well

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:16 pm
by kosmo16
Royee wrote:kosmo was obvious scum with how she had responded to my questions. no one bothered to read it.
i dont think town tried to play the game


People read it as desperate attempt to gete out of the situation and my answers were supporting this view. I intentionally scumslipped fb few times. Just for lolz. You could use that.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:18 pm
by kosmo16
Hellosither wrote:the cob douse was stupidly reckless lol


Chemist's idea. I wasn't in mood to negotiate. At least I figured out that juck is lo.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:19 pm
by watchme1
ICECLIMBERS wrote:
Varanus wrote:I met Swordsworth at an aquarium I was working at. He said, "Hey, how much do I have to pay you to let me swim in the shark tank?" I said, "Swordsworth, I respect you, but you know you wouldn't last ten minutes in that cage." He let out a deep sigh and said, "Would you say that to 2015 Swordsworth?"

Image
Spoiler: you could do the same for me tbh



Twas a chad move back in the day

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:26 pm
by Chemist1422
kosmo16 wrote:
Hellosither wrote:the cob douse was stupidly reckless lol


Chemist's idea. I wasn't in mood to negotiate. At least I figured out that juck is lo.

I was running under the assumption that FB didn't die to bodyguard and never bothered to double-check it

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:58 pm
by dolphina
well, fuck guys

Also cob, I would like to deliver one message

Spoiler: im disappointed, you shot me because you thought I was a dumbass, think again

you're le dumbass >:3

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:46 pm
by cob709
dolphina wrote:well, fuck guys

Also cob, I would like to deliver one message

im disappointed, you shot me because you thought I was a dumbass, think again

you're le dumbass >:3

I'm sorry T-T
i thought u were gonna try and lynch me

I was pushing GF, but then u were like "iF tHiS iS iNnO, wE cAn SaFeLy AsSuMe CoB iS eViL, rIgHt?"
and i predicted you were gonna be like "iF cOb WaS cOp, He WoUlD'nT sEe GoDfAtHeR aS gUiLtY!"
and that made me sad
so i shot you instead

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:46 pm
by Varanus
okay lisq

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:38 am
by JacksonVirgo
What a legend, after I saw mafia got pretty much chain fucked I thought this game was done for for mafia lel

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 3:38 am
by dolphina
cob709 wrote:
dolphina wrote:well, fuck guys

Spoiler: Also cob, I would like to deliver one message

im disappointed, you shot me because you thought I was a dumbass, think again

you're le dumbass >:3

I'm sorry T-T
i thought u were gonna try and lynch me

I was pushing GF, but then u were like "iF tHiS iS iNnO, wE cAn SaFeLy AsSuMe CoB iS eViL, rIgHt?"
and i predicted you were gonna be like "iF cOb WaS cOp, He WoUlD'nT sEe GoDfAtHeR aS gUiLtY!"
and that made me sad
so i shot you instead


You claimed tho
So that's fucking stupid
Ya should've shot kosmo or someone actually sus

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 7:24 am
by kosmo16
dolphina wrote:
cob709 wrote:
dolphina wrote:well, fuck guys

Spoiler: Also cob, I would like to deliver one message

im disappointed, you shot me because you thought I was a dumbass, think again

you're le dumbass >:3

I'm sorry T-T
i thought u were gonna try and lynch me

I was pushing GF, but then u were like "iF tHiS iS iNnO, wE cAn SaFeLy AsSuMe CoB iS eViL, rIgHt?"
and i predicted you were gonna be like "iF cOb WaS cOp, He WoUlD'nT sEe GoDfAtHeR aS gUiLtY!"
and that made me sad
so i shot you instead


You claimed tho
So that's fucking stupid
Ya should've shot kosmo or someone actually sus


I was suspicious? I rolled fb so I was actually careful.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 7:30 am
by dolphina
kosmo16 wrote:
dolphina wrote:
cob709 wrote:
dolphina wrote:well, fuck guys

Spoiler: Also cob, I would like to deliver one message

im disappointed, you shot me because you thought I was a dumbass, think again

you're le dumbass >:3

I'm sorry T-T
i thought u were gonna try and lynch me

I was pushing GF, but then u were like "iF tHiS iS iNnO, wE cAn SaFeLy AsSuMe CoB iS eViL, rIgHt?"
and i predicted you were gonna be like "iF cOb WaS cOp, He WoUlD'nT sEe GoDfAtHeR aS gUiLtY!"
and that made me sad
so i shot you instead


You claimed tho
So that's fucking stupid
Ya should've shot kosmo or someone actually sus


I was suspicious? I rolled fb so I was actually careful.


You acted off, it was a little stiff and forced

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 7:36 am
by kosmo16
dolphina wrote:
kosmo16 wrote:
dolphina wrote:
cob709 wrote:
dolphina wrote:well, fuck guys

Spoiler: Also cob, I would like to deliver one message

im disappointed, you shot me because you thought I was a dumbass, think again

you're le dumbass >:3

I'm sorry T-T
i thought u were gonna try and lynch me

I was pushing GF, but then u were like "iF tHiS iS iNnO, wE cAn SaFeLy AsSuMe CoB iS eViL, rIgHt?"
and i predicted you were gonna be like "iF cOb WaS cOp, He WoUlD'nT sEe GoDfAtHeR aS gUiLtY!"
and that made me sad
so i shot you instead


You claimed tho
So that's fucking stupid
Ya should've shot kosmo or someone actually sus


I was suspicious? I rolled fb so I was actually careful.


You acted off, it was a little stiff and forced


Like majority of my Town games :)

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 7:45 am
by UzayAltay
>Imagine rolling GF against following PRs:

Escort
2xLookout
2xBodyguard
Vigilante

Like only utility of GF was immunity against vig
Which I used :)


> I saw mistakes of both sides are spoken, my opinion is both sides played very good . I was definitely The weakest chain of Mafia , which led to me being lynched Day 2 despite The attempt of others helping me.
And Yeah, #no_to_lolcatting
I Dont think Mafia made any clear mistakes after I died (maybe with The exception of dousing cob, I Seriously afraided from Bg going there.)
Town's mistakes were from Mechanichal play, which allowed Mafia to force a 5v1 endgame , which Sword finished off very good . Massclaim was unnecessary, without that Mafia PRs would be outranked by town ones at one point.

>GG to Everyone , good job, kosmo, Chem, and Sword, I feel I was carried.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 8:05 am
by kosmo16
UzayAltay wrote:>Imagine rolling GF against following PRs:

Escort
2xLookout
2xBodyguard
Vigilante

Like only utility of GF was immunity against vig
Which I used :)


> I saw mistakes of both sides are spoken, my opinion is both sides played very good . I was definitely The weakest chain of Mafia , which led to me being lynched Day 2 despite The attempt of others helping me.
And Yeah, #no_to_lolcatting
I Dont think Mafia made any clear mistakes after I died (maybe with The exception of dousing cob, I Seriously afraided from Bg going there.)
Town's mistakes were from Mechanichal play, which allowed Mafia to force a 5v1 endgame , which Sword finished off very good . Massclaim was unnecessary, without that Mafia PRs would be outranked by town ones at one point.

>GG to Everyone , good job, kosmo, Chem, and Sword, I feel I was carried.


Dousing doesn't count as attack so I wasn't afraid of bg.