VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Game Over

[Jabichuelas]

We shouldn't lynch either of us.
Instead, as Jabi explained, we need to lynch flake because if we don't he's gonna win.

that's not what I meant to say, I'm just saying we shouldn't consider it a town win yet
well, sure, he's not 100% town but even if I meant to explain what you say I would still prefer lynching you/Uzay first

[kosmo16]

2nd wolf is trying to make it look like i asked cob to distance with me so people have reason to suspect i'm mafia, which is why cob is overacting on pushing me

calling it now

or he is doing it by himself thinking it is a good idea

If I were Mafia cob would be bussed long time ago. Yeah, I know cob is Mafia it's pretty obvious.

[SparkingJay]

Cob is mafia here from this clear manipulated day play from a buddy. Uzay deciding to not hardbus Cob/make Cob distance sounds weird although I doubt Uzay actually believes what he is saying with this:

if you need convincing that i am town

i forced a plan that would have put town in an insta win position if neop had 2 cit checks and in a very +ve position if neop had 1 cit check, unless you're going to argue that i knew poly was the neop meaning i'd know it was only 1 cit check from neop max, but that would be very hard for w!me to predict d2 unless mafia exactly tracked poly n1, which is possible but not likely. then even if i knew it was poly i risk going forward with the plan with neop having 1 cit check which is still very +ve for town

Or you expected to kill Nea and things went wrong, but final situation doesn't turned out that bad due to your cred.

[UzayAltay]

if you need convincing that i am town

i forced a plan that would have put town in an insta win position if neop had 2 cit checks and in a very +ve position if neop had 1 cit check, unless you're going to argue that i knew poly was the neop meaning i'd know it was only 1 cit check from neop max, but that would be very hard for w!me to predict d2 unless mafia exactly tracked poly n1, which is possible but not likely. then even if i knew it was poly i risk going forward with the plan with neop having 1 cit check which is still very +ve for town

Or you expected to kill Nea and things went wrong, but final situation doesn't turned out that bad due to your cred.

why would wolf!me have expected to kill neop specifically, there were no obvious signs as to which of crimson/poly/chem was neop

banking on that to get out of a situation that would likely end up being very +ve and possibly instantly winning for town would be a huge risk

(Answering This with together The above post )

1. I believe You are Mafia with cob.
Like I hope that one is obvious .
2.Because of that , killing cop was a 50-50 shot for You.
3.I am not sure on that (although that is What I think and is More likely IMO) but it is possible You Tracked Chemist, Which you considered You Will give us at most 1 ML.

[kosmo16]

2nd wolf is trying to make it look like i asked cob to distance with me so people have reason to suspect i'm mafia, which is why cob is overacting on pushing me

calling it now

or he is doing it by himself thinking it is a good idea

If I were Mafia cob would be bussed long time ago. Yeah, I know cob is Mafia it's pretty obvious.

what did you mean by hyena's scum slip

Go find it.

[kosmo16]

Hey, y'all. I haven't read a single post in the thread, and I don't think I'm going to, at least for now.

@hyena first thing to do is claim not-visitor or visitor you don't even need to read the thread yeet.

although i think half the thread wants to kill you so that's nice

Do you mean an actual Visitor, or a visiting role?

Imagine asking such a question as Visitor.

[3cheersforidiots]

I think cob is always our lynch for today
pretty indicative if Uzay started bussing cob today in a last ditch attempt to distance

[3cheersforidiots]

/vote cob

this is L-2

[SparkingJay]

I think cob is always our lynch for today
pretty indicative if Uzay started bussing cob today in a last ditch attempt to distance

Cob definitely doesn't sound natural with his reads so I support it

[kosmo16]

/vote cob

this is L-2

Let's check
/vote cob

[SparkingJay]

/vote cob

this is L-2

Let's check
/vote cob

good idea

[ejjinami]

Vote Count 4.5

Current Vote Count

Player	Votes	Voters
	#	Votes Until Majority

Not voting: SparkingJayYT, Jabichuelas;


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[UzayAltay]

I am not hammering when both non-voters are conftown.

[SparkingJay]

I am not hammering when both non-voters are conftown.

Cob is a lost cause for a scumbuddy to defend, better to bus and take cred.

do you disagree

[UzayAltay]

I am not hammering when both non-voters are conftown.

Cob is a lost cause for a scumbuddy to defend, better to bus and take cred.

do you disagree

I think Flake agreed with you.

[UzayAltay]

Or kosmo, but I believe Flake.

[SparkingJay]

I'm kinda confused, so you think Cob's scumbuddy wouldn't bus and try ML? Taking in mind Cob's general read in the game

[UzayAltay]

I'm kinda confused, so you think Cob's scumbuddy wouldn't bus and try ML? Taking in mind Cob's general read in the game

No I am saying cob's buddy already bussed and you are talking with wrong person.

[SparkingJay]

I'm kinda confused, so you think Cob's scumbuddy wouldn't bus and try ML? Taking in mind Cob's general read in the game

No I am saying cob's buddy already bussed and you are talking with wrong person.

erm I'm just saying from your POV whether you thought Cob was being ML'd, which I believed you thought from this:

I am not hammering when both non-voters are conftown.

[SparkingJay]

Also whilst we are here, do you think it is plausible for Flake to discredit my early TR on Cob and argue that "it is too early to judge" rather than allowing Cob to take a free TR.

[SparkingJay]

also Javi really needs to be more active, especially if things go south

[UzayAltay]

I'm kinda confused, so you think Cob's scumbuddy wouldn't bus and try ML? Taking in mind Cob's general read in the game

No I am saying cob's buddy already bussed and you are talking with wrong person.

erm I'm just saying from your POV whether you thought Cob was being ML'd, which I believed you thought from this:

I am not hammering when both non-voters are conftown.

What I was trying to say is I shouldnt decide day ending early, although I think this is a good lynch.

Also whilst we are here, do you think it is plausible for Flake to discredit my early TR on Cob and argue that "it is too early to judge" rather than allowing Cob to take a free TR.

Can you quote the post?

[SparkingJay]

Also whilst we are here, do you think it is plausible for Flake to discredit my early TR on Cob and argue that "it is too early to judge" rather than allowing Cob to take a free TR.

Can you quote the post?

Spoiler:

Since Cob didn’t answer my question I’m just going to assume he is new by his recent posts and that it doesn’t resemble noobmafia being coached on how to play, he sounds more lost in thread atm

i get what ur saying but i also feel like i havent seen enough of them to make a significant judgement.

They lack any real direction this game, wdym

im saying its too early to make the call that their lack of direction is town indicative imo. theirs a large chance their hypothetical mafia buddies dont dictate much of what theyve said so far.

You would expect Mafia buddies to help a new player out not just throw them out to the wilderness with nothing

maybe, but you also need to consider that people take time to adjust and so what they say may not be influenced much at all by what their mafia buddies are telling them to do this early on. it is also not a crucial point in the game yet, which is when their direction or lack of direction would be more telling.

[SparkingJay]

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[UzayAltay]

That could be easily explainable with them wanting to cast a nullread/already casting a nullread on cob, and defending their point later on.
Sparking, can I ask what would be your opinion if you stay alive to F3 with kosmo and Flake?