XX7 | Role Swapper | Game Over (Town Win)

[MaddanKiazo]

@Maddan, had a look at your ISO and you voted watchme at one point

so rip, no 100% accuracy for you

in lynching, everyone throws votes and the only vote that matters is the last vote that you have done

[UzayAltay]

After that D2 shot on Wabbit, this was never gonna be an easy game

on the flipside, 100% of our nightkills were PRs

Everything went bad after D1 lynch for scum TBH . (Including Day 1 lynch, too.)
I'm unsure How much it could be developed from that point onwards So If A progression should be searched , it should be about before.

[3cheersforidiots]

@Maddan, had a look at your ISO and you voted watchme at one point

so rip, no 100% accuracy for you

in lynching, everyone throws votes and the only vote that matters is the last vote that you have done

I mean, sure, but by that same logic, you're 100% accurate if you never vote for anyone (which is something you did D2)
so like, a 100% accuracy is great for bragging rights, but by that criteria, it's not incredibly difficult to accomplish when 4 out of the 5 lynches were scum
this is not discrediting or anything, well done on being on the correct wagons, just an observation

[Chemist1422]

tbf voting records aren't anything to brag over when there were mech outed scum every day after D2 lol

[MaddanKiazo]

@Maddan, had a look at your ISO and you voted watchme at one point

so rip, no 100% accuracy for you

in lynching, everyone throws votes and the only vote that matters is the last vote that you have done

I mean, sure, but by that same logic, you're 100% accurate if you never vote for anyone (which is something you did D2)
so like, a 100% accuracy is great for bragging rights, but by that criteria, it's not incredibly difficult to accomplish when 4 out of the 5 lynches were scum
this is not discrediting or anything, well done on being on the correct wagons, just an observation

I mean its not my fault that mafias are so obv

[3cheersforidiots]

After that D2 shot on Wabbit, this was never gonna be an easy game

on the flipside, 100% of our nightkills were PRs

Everything went bad after D1 lynch for scum TBH . (Including Day 1 lynch, too.)
I'm unsure How much it could be developed from that point onwards So If A progression should be searched , it should be about before.

I guess there were a couple of issues with EoD D1
a) Michael was not voting any of the counter-wagons
b) Wabbit was not there to make a play
c) Manatee and I couldn't organically progress on the other wagons because we both had a relatively lacklustre D1

[Chemist1422]

@Maddan, had a look at your ISO and you voted watchme at one point

so rip, no 100% accuracy for you

in lynching, everyone throws votes and the only vote that matters is the last vote that you have done

I mean, sure, but by that same logic, you're 100% accurate if you never vote for anyone (which is something you did D2)
so like, a 100% accuracy is great for bragging rights, but by that criteria, it's not incredibly difficult to accomplish when 4 out of the 5 lynches were scum
this is not discrediting or anything, well done on being on the correct wagons, just an observation

I mean its not my fault that mafias are so obv

ah yes now I remember why I have your main foed

[MaddanKiazo]

@Maddan, had a look at your ISO and you voted watchme at one point

so rip, no 100% accuracy for you

in lynching, everyone throws votes and the only vote that matters is the last vote that you have done

I mean, sure, but by that same logic, you're 100% accurate if you never vote for anyone (which is something you did D2)
so like, a 100% accuracy is great for bragging rights, but by that criteria, it's not incredibly difficult to accomplish when 4 out of the 5 lynches were scum
this is not discrediting or anything, well done on being on the correct wagons, just an observation

I mean its not my fault that mafias are so obv

ah yes now I remember why I have your main foed

what is foe?

[3cheersforidiots]

@Maddan, had a look at your ISO and you voted watchme at one point

so rip, no 100% accuracy for you

in lynching, everyone throws votes and the only vote that matters is the last vote that you have done

I mean, sure, but by that same logic, you're 100% accurate if you never vote for anyone (which is something you did D2)
so like, a 100% accuracy is great for bragging rights, but by that criteria, it's not incredibly difficult to accomplish when 4 out of the 5 lynches were scum
this is not discrediting or anything, well done on being on the correct wagons, just an observation

I mean its not my fault that mafias are so obv

saying mafia was obvious doesn't really do justice, though
I played bad, sure, I'll chalk that up to this being my first really real scum game on FM, but the reason for the scum chainlynches was mostly mechanical, not necessarily because we played like obvscum
my 2 cents

[ZoruaLuhansk]

my reads were total crap
I was townleaning 3cheers and manatee, had a policy null on wabbit
so ty for nightkilling me ig?

[Eragon1329]

Well I suppose there's not much for me to say, because someone spoiled the results (Thanks Wabbit >:( )

But yeah, 3CheersforIdiots has been lynched. They were Mafia which means that the game is now over, with the Town emerging victorious.

Can we get 3 cheers in the chat for Town or something?

I'm lazy so Acidic will probably do the rest of the game end stuff when they're around and link the stuff

[AcidicBreeze]

Roles:
murat1996 (Lookout --> Tracker)
SparkingJayYT (BodyGuard --> Botanist --> Marshal)
UzayAltay (GunSmith --> Vigilante)
EvilDeanius0 (JailKeeper --> Medium)
ZoruaLuhansk (Marshal)
(watchme1 / JacksonVirgo) (Tracker --> Detective --> Sheriff)
James (Citizen --> Ascetic --> Citizen)
Reidak (Ascetic --> Citizen)
unvote (Citizen --> Ascetic)
MaddanKiazo (Citizen --> Ascetic --> Citizen)
heytheregirl17 (Citizen)
Dota2Reporter (Citizen)
Chemist1422 (Ascetic --> Citizen --> Ascetic)

3cheersforidiots (Caporegime --> Ambusher --> Godmother --> Ambusher)
ManateeDude (Blackmailer --> Silencer --> Disguiser --> Ninja)
MichaelgRook (Watcher)
TheWabbit (Consigliere --> Agent)

Cenvil2 (Witch --> Kleptomaniac)

[AcidicBreeze]

dead chat discord: https://discord.gg/TDxNFnp

Mafia Chat discord: https://discord.gg/bPEB7aq

[AcidicBreeze]

Mod Rant
Spoiler: Before we start except for the afks you guys were all good, don't sweat it.
First off i would like to apologize to watchme1 for not processing their role swap correctly when giving out the results. It was completely my mistake and at that point the only thing I could do is replace them out due to having accidentally revealed a mafia. Again my fault entirely can't apologize enough for doing this, If someone runs this setup again I suggest you have the current roles of everyone listed separately away from the main spreadsheet of information to avoid this.
With that out of the way, don't think there was any other mod errors aside from missing someone voting someone else during the EOD wagons.
One thing I felt was a mistake was how the end of d1 was handled, was not enough vote counts and Im sorry to the mafia for not making things clear enough in time, made the mistake of trying to deal with replacing someone out at the same time who had only now just read the prod messages, which in hindsight i should have just dealt with after.
On to the topic of afks, I felt I mostly replaced out in time but there was a few cases where I felt I slipped with letting people get away with being afk to long. towards the end, I should have been more active towards replacing out before i did. Still finding replacements was a pain, but I'd rather pause the game like I did then mod kill any slot.

Now for the game mechanics itself. First thing, just don't include med like this again, was a massive pain not being able to spoil the dead players due to the ts slot being in play and then with the med dead a med message being in play. Honestly, in hindsight a different role for the ts slot here would have been much better, Med didn't have any use aside from just being a way to send funny messages, relies to much on pr's both having died and finding information before having even the slightest use.
Ambusher, I'm a little unhappy it wasn't used but in all honesty as a mafia head, its kind of weak compared to the other two. Needs to be reworked (again) or just replaced with an overall better mafia head.
Other then that the other roles were fine in how they reacted in this situation, the citizen / ascetic situation helped to cause a little confusion with the ti's like I had hoped and allowed a room of doubt with the silencer to do there thing.
Onto the role list itself, i don't think it's to unbalanced maybe decreasing town by one citizen could help, but overall there is not much you can do when a ti finds 3 mafia and gets a gun to shoot one of them, you can't plan around that sort stuff.

Honestly hosting was a bit draining but not as much as i expected it to be, i had fun even if i died inside when having to send some of the night results.

Thanks for playing all
~ AcidicBreeze

[Eragon1329]

Ok you can officially post in game-end now

[UzayAltay]

Well I suppose there's not much for me to say, because someone spoiled the results (Thanks Wabbit >:( )

But yeah, 3CheersforIdiots has been lynched. They were Mafia which means that the game is now over, with the Town emerging victorious.

Can we get 3 cheers in the chat for Town or something?

I'm lazy so Acidic will probably do the rest of the game end stuff when they're around and link the stuff

umm First 3cheers spoiled Actually but whatever it Dont matter
Gj town.

[ManateeDude]

no comment

[murat1996]

I basically caught the remaining mafia after Michael was lynched, also thx for the gun uzay xD

[murat1996]

So mechanically speaking, I ended up being the mafia's biggest problem(sort of)

[UzayAltay]

I basically caught the remaining mafia after Michael was lynched, also thx for the gun uzay xD

You're welcome.
Yeah your TI checks were very accurate.
Like If I hadnt felt town played as A team, I'd say You carried but I believe town Did A good job as A whole. Not discreditting You, though.

[ManateeDude]

mafias biggest problem was the fact there were two TIs two protectives and a medium that could relay dead TIs information up

[murat1996]

I basically caught the remaining mafia after Michael was lynched, also thx for the gun uzay xD

You're welcome.
Yeah your TI checks were very accurate.
Like If I hadnt felt town played as A team, I'd say You carried but I believe town Did A good job as A whole. Not discreditting You, though.

I know that, everyone did their part, but I'm not sure if anyone would have found manatee though if I didn't track em, but that's whatever.

I think I just ended up being a decisive factor for yesterday and today's lynch though

[Reidak]

you may think you won, but you forgot me, the TRUE last mafia member

/vote Reidak

seriously though, man I played like shit, no scumreads apart from the bloody NE correct, guess that's what happens when you don't play FM for over a year

good game, especially when the pace slowed down, thanks acidic and eragon for hosting

[murat1996]

mafias biggest problem was the fact there were two TIs two protectives and a medium that could relay dead TIs information up

I mean that's true, but generally speaking the TI's did the most work and everyone else was pretty unfortunate with dying tho

TK gave me a gun, that's like the only useful thing that happened for the TK

Also I probably got HTG killed by mistake though as I should have checked with the host on the no result on citizens but that's whatever

[Reidak]

oh yeah shout out to the other town players, really well done on your end