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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby SparkingJay » Fri May 22, 2020 1:53 pm

ManateeDude wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:Also we hypoclaim Cop D2 ez

Absolutely not this playerlist barring a few people could not and should not hypoclaim

It's not that hard

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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby SparkingJay » Fri May 22, 2020 1:54 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/761-2-Seers-Cops-and-Keeping-Good-Cover-%28by-Yates%29

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Oh I see, fair.

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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby ManateeDude » Fri May 22, 2020 1:55 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:
ManateeDude wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
ManateeDude wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:Also we hypoclaim Cop D2 ez

Absolutely not this playerlist barring a few people could not and should not hypoclaim

What's your concern?

Vanilla Townies out themselves with greens on scum

It's not a problem because not cop =/= not PR here

We run the risk of outing the cop either way
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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby Chemist1422 » Fri May 22, 2020 1:56 pm

ManateeDude wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
ManateeDude wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
ManateeDude wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:Also we hypoclaim Cop D2 ez

Absolutely not this playerlist barring a few people could not and should not hypoclaim

What's your concern?

Vanilla Townies out themselves with greens on scum

It's not a problem because not cop =/= not PR here

We run the risk of outing the cop either way

/vote Manatee

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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby ManateeDude » Fri May 22, 2020 1:57 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:
ManateeDude wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
ManateeDude wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
ManateeDude wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:Also we hypoclaim Cop D2 ez

Absolutely not this playerlist barring a few people could not and should not hypoclaim

What's your concern?

Vanilla Townies out themselves with greens on scum

It's not a problem because not cop =/= not PR here

We run the risk of outing the cop either way

/vote Manatee

"the" cop?

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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby Chemist1422 » Fri May 22, 2020 1:58 pm

Yeah that's exactly what I'm saying
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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby ManateeDude » Fri May 22, 2020 1:59 pm

Your reasoning makes no sense considering we were discussing a scenario with a theoretical cop
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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby Chemist1422 » Fri May 22, 2020 1:59 pm

If you don't think this playerlist is capable of leaving decent hypos that's fine then don't

But the cop does have to soft their peek, should it exist
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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby Chemist1422 » Fri May 22, 2020 1:59 pm

ManateeDude wrote:Your reasoning makes no sense considering we were discussing a scenario with a theoretical cop

Reasonable

Your reaction sucks though
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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby ManateeDude » Fri May 22, 2020 2:04 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:If you don't think this playerlist is capable of leaving decent hypos that's fine then don't

But the cop does have to soft their peek, should it exist


Fair

Chemist1422 wrote:
ManateeDude wrote:Your reasoning makes no sense considering we were discussing a scenario with a theoretical cop

Reasonable

Your reaction sucks though


do you think my reaction was scum-indicative or did you just not like it?
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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby Chemist1422 » Fri May 22, 2020 2:06 pm

I think you already know the answer to that question
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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby ryanyb » Fri May 22, 2020 2:16 pm

As the guy who is almost always in favor of hypo:
Why do we hypo
If there’s a cop just let them claim their check in a vacuum
Its 1 shot cop. The longer it holds info the less effective it gets.
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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby ryanyb » Fri May 22, 2020 2:17 pm

Yes the cop dies if there’s not a jk, so what
We get 2 green or 1 green 1 red
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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby ManateeDude » Fri May 22, 2020 2:17 pm

ogey.

why should the cop not just claim their results D2?
- if scum claims cop lategame they'll be outed so it makes no sense and seems very unlikely

- if town claims cop + result we get a plethora of information.
- Two inno's/ 1 inno and a guilty
- If an inno gets killed we learn that theres no JK
- If an inno doesn't get killed we learn that there is a JK and we're basically set for the rest of the game

- if no-one claims nothing happens but we do narrow down the roles in play
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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby Chemist1422 » Fri May 22, 2020 2:18 pm

now I feel silly for trying to big brain this
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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby ryanyb » Fri May 22, 2020 2:18 pm

If a cop wants to hold their check to n2 that’s fine
But hypo just seems dumb
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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby ManateeDude » Fri May 22, 2020 2:19 pm

Also we have two NKs directed at non-PRs effectively allowing them to solve if JK isnt in play (assuming cop doesnt check a PR)
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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby ejjinami » Fri May 22, 2020 2:20 pm

oh, this started
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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby ryanyb » Fri May 22, 2020 2:20 pm

ManateeDude wrote:Also we have two NKs directed at non-PRs effectively allowing them to solve if JK isnt in play (assuming cop doesnt check a PR)

I don’t follow
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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby ejjinami » Fri May 22, 2020 2:21 pm

I haven’t played FM for at least a few months
hahahahaha, I missed this so damn much xD


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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby ryanyb » Fri May 22, 2020 2:22 pm

Meanwhile chemist goes and cries in a corner
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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby ManateeDude » Fri May 22, 2020 2:22 pm

ryanyb wrote:
ManateeDude wrote:Also we have two NKs directed at non-PRs effectively allowing them to solve if JK isnt in play (assuming cop doesnt check a PR)

I don’t follow

if cop claims two innos the scum will NK the two innos taking away the focus from PRs. If they do vice versa we get two innos late game
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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby Chemist1422 » Fri May 22, 2020 2:23 pm

ryanyb wrote:Meanwhile chemist goes and cries in a corner

>:/
ManateeDude wrote:
ryanyb wrote:
ManateeDude wrote:Also we have two NKs directed at non-PRs effectively allowing them to solve if JK isnt in play (assuming cop doesnt check a PR)

I don’t follow

if cop claims two innos the scum will NK the two innos taking away the focus from PRs. If they do vice versa we get two innos late game

cop is 1-shot
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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby ManateeDude » Fri May 22, 2020 2:24 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:
ryanyb wrote:Meanwhile chemist goes and cries in a corner

>:/
ManateeDude wrote:
ryanyb wrote:
ManateeDude wrote:Also we have two NKs directed at non-PRs effectively allowing them to solve if JK isnt in play (assuming cop doesnt check a PR)

I don’t follow

if cop claims two innos the scum will NK the two innos taking away the focus from PRs. If they do vice versa we get two innos late game

cop is 1-shot

themselves and their inno I mean
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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby ManateeDude » Fri May 22, 2020 2:24 pm

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