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Re: VFM67 | Sharing is Caring | Votecount FINAL

Postby ManateeDude » Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:11 am

lemonader666 wrote:Votecount 5.FINAL

DesertStorm11 | 3 | ManateeDude, polypies73, Eragon1329

Not voting: watchme1, DesertStorm11, ARandomDouche, Crimson97

DesertStorm11 will be lynched.


Once again if we look at this wagon from my perspective town!era only comes if the following two are true
1. The wagon was completely pure
2. Both scum are in the non-voting pool

So unless yall want to assume the previous statements are true eragon is scum from my perspective, and me and era are TvS from yalls
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Re: VFM67 | Sharing is Caring | Day 6

Postby ARandomDouche » Wed Apr 29, 2020 4:09 am

Crimson97:

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dota2reporter wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:mech thoughts are that it's probably better to not use the cop until the framer is dead
vig shooting and the target not dying is basically a guilty which means the vig should call their shot d1
jailkeeper is a fantastic role and should use all four charges should probably save actions until endgame

a wolf flip, especially on the non-doc, within two days is huge, so we should be looking to have a strong start

Here's a plan
We let jailkeeper and cop die and vigi carries us
Big brain

You're right. Jailkeeper and cop should claim now so we can lynch them.

Not sure why, but this feels like he just sort of repeated what was said. Looking at it analytically, there's nothing wrong with it in context.


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dota2reporter wrote:Notes before I go to sleep, goin serious mode lads

1. To people who get lynched a decent amount and don't get townread often: obvtown your ass off if you're town. Who the fuck cares about reads - let's be real, you probably won't be very accurate (like me), instead try and decrease PoE by being obviously town
2. To people who get townread as both alignments: uhhh... shit, idk just do reads then I guess, you're more likely to actually do good ones

I don't like this mentality. You're telling people to care more about what they look like to others than solving the game. How do you expect people to obvtown themselves by sheeping other reads too?


I like this. Pointing out the bad/lazy plan's flaws definitely would help town. Considering there were a few newbies at the start of the game, a few might have fallen for it. Scum would benefit from the plan going through.


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kosmo16 wrote:I can tell you why discussion about mechanics can give you a hint who is scum and who is not.

For example the idea to sacrafice Cop is stupid and we are not doing that. If I were scum I would support this or ignore it. As town you obviously call things stupid.

About Someone, I think he knows not visiting as Cop N1 is stupid, but he ignored the discussion about that. When I asked him what is the best strategy for night, he couldn't say sth what is completely in contradiction with current ideas, because it would mean he ignored the discussion == scum. Answer he gave is clever, as could come from town.

I really like this reasoning.

TBH, I would properly consider myself the non-conformist of the game (not like its a grand title or anything). Despite sometimes going against popular ideas, people didn't point it out and called me scum. So the notion non-conformist = scum is false, plus scum could just read up on the thread like a normal person and just recite the popular idea or a slightly different plan better or worse than the current one.

Crimson properly liked the idea because there were no objections or counter-arguments, so I will have to read it as NAI for now.


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dota2reporter wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:Nah don't worry too much, you're doing a fine job so far

now this is actually a pocket

Do you all want me to be toxic or something? Jesus Christ

"You're doing a fucking shit job, your life is a mistake and your mom smells of cranberries"

Are those your real thoughts on Douche?


For some reason, I feel like this is shade. Realistically, he's properly just being inquisitive.


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Crimson97 wrote:Dota: When did i become such low hanging fruit?
Also dota:
dota2reporter wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:
kosmo16 wrote:Im fine with dota lynch.

Me too

/vote dota

/vote dota


There's nothing to read here, this just made me giggle.


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TheDebil wrote:
S0me0ne23 wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:I'll try to be here at EoD but i'll probably won't tbh.

Right now i feel weird about the dota lynch cause a big part of it is their suicidal behavior which as i said is NAI until someone can prove otherwise. Best thing to do would be to reevaluate dota without all the jesting.
I don't really have time to do that rn tho and 0ver has been consistenly scummy with his reactions to the Dota wagon so i'll leave my vote there.

/Vote 0ver

nai is overused
if there's no town explanation for something, then it comes from scum

he's doing it to make reads
town explanation completed

You gotta admit it's weird. At the beginning of the game he's like: We should focus on being as townie as possible
Then he wants to be lynched
Then it's a joke
Then he wants to be lynched
Then it was all a plan to make reads


I mean, that's a decent analysis of what happened and it is weird. I think if you looked it that way, scum!Dota would be pretty stupid to do that.


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Crimson97 wrote:
TheDebil wrote:kosmo absolutely deserved it
if u can appear 1 sec before eod could have done it 3 minutes earlier

Stop trying to justify your idiocy.


This is fair, but I find it odd that he would say "stop trying" as if Debil had tried to justify himself multiple times, as if he isn't actually pissed at Debil and trying to imitate that he is.


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Crimson97 wrote:
DesertStorm11 wrote:
polypies73 wrote:@Desert

are you the cop?

Wouldn’t you like to know weather boy

I’m okay with being a dead Town slot but I’ll try to make the “dead” part of that not be applicable anymore

Dude you're outted cop spit it out.


The tone is bad™


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Crimson97 wrote:Playing FM almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.


I found the analogy weird or the reason for posting this, but mood.


Overall, Crimson is going to be null to me. If you find anything interesting, post it.
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Re: VFM67 | Sharing is Caring | Votecount FINAL

Postby ARandomDouche » Wed Apr 29, 2020 4:10 am

ManateeDude wrote:
lemonader666 wrote:Votecount 5.FINAL

DesertStorm11 | 3 | ManateeDude, polypies73, Eragon1329

Not voting: watchme1, DesertStorm11, ARandomDouche, Crimson97

DesertStorm11 will be lynched.


Once again if we look at this wagon from my perspective town!era only comes if the following two are true
1. The wagon was completely pure
2. Both scum are in the non-voting pool

So unless yall want to assume the previous statements are true eragon is scum from my perspective, and me and era are TvS from yalls

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Re: VFM67 | Sharing is Caring | Votecount FINAL

Postby ManateeDude » Wed Apr 29, 2020 4:21 am

ARandomDouche wrote:
ManateeDude wrote:
lemonader666 wrote:Votecount 5.FINAL

DesertStorm11 | 3 | ManateeDude, polypies73, Eragon1329

Not voting: watchme1, DesertStorm11, ARandomDouche, Crimson97

DesertStorm11 will be lynched.


Once again if we look at this wagon from my perspective town!era only comes if the following two are true
1. The wagon was completely pure
2. Both scum are in the non-voting pool

So unless yall want to assume the previous statements are true eragon is scum from my perspective, and me and era are TvS from yalls

BuT yOuRe AsSuMiNg YoUre ToWn


Like I said from MY perspective hes scum and from everyone elses theres 1 scum between us
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Re: VFM67 | Sharing is Caring | Day 6

Postby ARandomDouche » Wed Apr 29, 2020 4:30 am

I was joking. Anyway, I'm pretty inclined to lynch Eragon, but watchme isn't a bad substitute. I just want to be absolutely sure about my stance on everyone before doing anything else.
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Re: VFM67 | Sharing is Caring | Day 6

Postby ARandomDouche » Wed Apr 29, 2020 4:30 am

What do you think of my reads thus far?
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Re: VFM67 | Sharing is Caring | Day 6

Postby ManateeDude » Wed Apr 29, 2020 4:35 am

ARandomDouche wrote:What do you think of my reads thus far?

They aren't crazy detailed or glaringly right but the effort and drive behind them is a good look for you
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Re: VFM67 | Sharing is Caring | Day 6

Postby watchme1 » Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:21 am

Im not going to lie, state of the game literally has my wim drained completely.

Eragon wants desert lynched out of policy which is no comment tbh, like can't make anything out of that

But then we all kinda agreed on it
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Re: VFM67 | Sharing is Caring | Day 6

Postby ARandomDouche » Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:23 am

watchme1 wrote:Im not going to lie, state of the game literally has my wim drained completely.

Eragon wants desert lynched out of policy which is no comment tbh, like can't make anything out of that

But then we all kinda agreed on it

Go on r/motivation on reddit. That will get your wim back up.
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Re: VFM67 | Sharing is Caring | Day 6

Postby ManateeDude » Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:50 am

/vote eragon
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Re: VFM67 | Sharing is Caring | Day 6

Postby ManateeDude » Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:53 am

me waiting for people to swoop in and hammer like :?
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Re: VFM67 | Sharing is Caring | Day 6

Postby watchme1 » Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:10 am

if eragon doesn't get quick lynched they're scum :^)
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Re: VFM67 | Sharing is Caring | Day 6

Postby ManateeDude » Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:12 am

watchme1 wrote:if eragon doesn't get quick lynched they're scum :^)

thats the idea yup
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Re: VFM67 | Sharing is Caring | Day 6

Postby ManateeDude » Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:15 am

im v carefully watching this thread omg
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Re: VFM67 | Sharing is Caring | Day 6

Postby watchme1 » Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:46 am

I'm going to sleep, if eragon gets hammered as town then gg i guess
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Re: VFM67 | Sharing is Caring | Day 6

Postby ManateeDude » Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:49 am

watchme1 wrote:I'm going to sleep, if eragon gets hammered as town then gg i guess

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Re: VFM67 | Sharing is Caring | Votecount FINAL

Postby Eragon1329 » Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:42 am

ManateeDude wrote:
lemonader666 wrote:Votecount 5.FINAL

DesertStorm11 | 3 | ManateeDude, polypies73, Eragon1329

Not voting: watchme1, DesertStorm11, ARandomDouche, Crimson97

DesertStorm11 will be lynched.


I also find it really difficult to believe theres two scum in [watchme/Douche/Crimson]


It’s almost like wagonnomics aren’t a thing when literally everyone agrees on a wagon
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Re: VFM67 | Sharing is Caring | Day 6

Postby Eragon1329 » Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:43 am

ManateeDude wrote:I see no reason why I shouldnt vote eragon here


Because I’m town :yeewoke:

or more like you haven’t given a reason I’m wolf other than false wagonnomics :v
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Re: VFM67 | Sharing is Caring | Votecount FINAL

Postby Eragon1329 » Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:45 am

ManateeDude wrote:
lemonader666 wrote:Votecount 5.FINAL

DesertStorm11 | 3 | ManateeDude, polypies73, Eragon1329

Not voting: watchme1, DesertStorm11, ARandomDouche, Crimson97

DesertStorm11 will be lynched.


Once again if we look at this wagon from my perspective town!era only comes if the following two are true
1. The wagon was completely pure
2. Both scum are in the non-voting pool

So unless yall want to assume the previous statements are true eragon is scum from my perspective, and me and era are TvS from yalls


I think a wagon with absolutely no counterwagon and with every person agreeing in the course of action to lynch is not a good indicator of wagonnomics, and like, actually reading people is probably a better way to do it.
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Re: VFM67 | Sharing is Caring | Day 6

Postby Eragon1329 » Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:45 am

There’s no way ARD is mafia here right
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Re: VFM67 | Sharing is Caring | Day 6

Postby Eragon1329 » Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:46 am

Eragon1329 wrote:There’s no way ARD is mafia here right


Fuck me if I’m wrong but like

I know I’m never going to even so much as look at a wagon on him right now

so
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Re: VFM67 | Sharing is Caring | Day 6

Postby Eragon1329 » Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:47 am

watchme1 wrote:Im not going to lie, state of the game literally has my wim drained completely.

Eragon wants desert lynched out of policy which is no comment tbh, like can't make anything out of that

But then we all kinda agreed on it


It wasn’t fully policy but it was a scumlynch backed up by the safety net of policy
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Re: VFM67 | Sharing is Caring | Day 6

Postby Eragon1329 » Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:48 am

ManateeDude wrote:me waiting for people to swoop in and hammer like :?


They can’t hammer when you’re wolf
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Re: VFM67 | Sharing is Caring | Day 6

Postby Eragon1329 » Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:48 am

watchme1 wrote:if eragon doesn't get quick lynched they're scum :^)


:^) or manatee is and you’re their buddy :^)
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Re: VFM67 | Sharing is Caring | Day 6

Postby Eragon1329 » Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:55 am

Watchme’s NKA on my is bad because it shows his own mindset but with different ideas than the previous

He continuously said that “me and poly” are locktown and combined us with almost all the reads that he made during Day5

Then today he said “eragon was townier than poly” which shows a disconnect with thread status and an attempt and making it look like I performed the kill.

it’s a disconnect with threadstate because people did scumread and/or mistrust me, as in the case of Douche saying 2304 was scummy and I haven’t fully fixed my slot

And Crimson saying that they are suspicious of me


However I also feel it is a genuine thought, so watchme was townreading me, and falsely believed that I was townier than Poly, causing him to nightkill poly to shade me
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