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Re: SFM 70: Mafia Groups (Mafia Wins!)

Postby Eragon1329 » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:22 pm

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Re: SFM 70: Mafia Groups (Mafia Wins!)

Postby Chemist1422 » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:23 pm

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Re: SFM 70: Mafia Groups (Day 3)

Postby Eragon1329 » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:24 pm

Royee wrote:this setup was just a big rng rather than scumsided
town got lucky with roles

edit: then-> than


town got lucky

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Re: SFM 70: Mafia Groups (Mafia Wins!)

Postby Eragon1329 » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:26 pm

having 2 KPN in a 9v 2 v 2 where the mafia groups win with each other is bad



Its not an excuse for how badly town played, myself included, but this game was horribly scumsided
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Re: SFM 70: Mafia Groups (Day 3)

Postby TheWabbit » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:27 pm

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and sparking and i decided you're wolf from how you reacted

You scare me too much

it's a hit or miss each game

just happened to be a hit this time
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Re: SFM 70: Mafia Groups (Mafia Wins!)

Postby UzayAltay » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:28 pm

It seems Eragon just missed playing
TBH I were mad at You after Day 1 but I Dont atm.
You probably needed some fun and not caring much for that , which Everyone needs somehow (PS-meow meow game)
Welcome back, mate
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Re: SFM 70: Mafia Groups (Mafia Wins!)

Postby Eragon1329 » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:28 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:should've just lynched cenvil


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Re: SFM 70: Mafia Groups (Mafia Wins!)

Postby TheWabbit » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:28 pm

my interview with sparking is definitely not a tactic to study sparking's wolf mentality
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Re: SFM 70: Mafia Groups (Mafia Wins!)

Postby Eragon1329 » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:32 pm

UzayAltay wrote:It seems Eragon just missed playing
TBH I were mad at You after Day 1 but I Dont atm.
You probably needed some fun and not caring much for that , which Everyone needs somehow (PS-meow meow game)
Welcome back, mate


I still hold that I have never seen a town before say

"If I was scum I would have made sure not to enter scummily"
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Re: SFM 70: Mafia Groups (Mafia Wins!)

Postby Royee » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:33 pm

town got really fine roles, it could have been worse tbf.
town was prodding, you must be crazy if you expect a town w in that situation
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Re: SFM 70: Mafia Groups (Mafia Wins!)

Postby Eragon1329 » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:38 pm

we also had 3 of them dead by D2


I didn't expect a town win at all
no one was even playing the game or motivated to try


but this setup is still extremely scum sided and requires town to make very few mistakes to even have a chance
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Re: SFM 70: Mafia Groups (Mafia Wins!)

Postby UzayAltay » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:40 pm

Eragon1329 wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:It seems Eragon just missed playing
TBH I were mad at You after Day 1 but I Dont atm.
You probably needed some fun and not caring much for that , which Everyone needs somehow (PS-meow meow game)
Welcome back, mate


I still hold that I have never seen a town before say

"If I was scum I would have made sure not to enter scummily"

Actually I Said that regardless of my algnment
Like , Do You really think I made posts without looking at least whether is it anti-town , or not ? I were Obviously looking my post at least once, to see whether I miswrote/say sth anti-town/Scummy.
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Re: SFM 70: Mafia Groups (Mafia Wins!)

Postby TheWabbit » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:41 pm

it was a terrible time to say that

plus the wording felt like you're almost scumclaiming
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Re: SFM 70: Mafia Groups (Mafia Wins!)

Postby Royee » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:43 pm

Eragon1329 wrote:we also had 3 of them dead by D2


I didn't expect a town win at all
no one was even playing the game or motivated to try


but this setup is still extremely scum sided and requires town to make very few mistakes to even have a chance

well thats not my problem.
we had thought that adding citizens(1-2) might be for good, but it was accepted anyways. we should have done it from the start ig.
i didn't take into an account the possibility of gunsmith and a backup. mafia's plans(both) could easily backfire
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Re: SFM 70: Mafia Groups (Mafia Wins!)

Postby UzayAltay » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:44 pm

TBH A better set-up could be 1KPN rotating + Mafia Roles cant Act with killing
Or Maybe after 2 Mafia dies Mafia became uniform , and have 1kpn fixed with acting and killing together.
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Re: SFM 70: Mafia Groups (Mafia Wins!)

Postby Eragon1329 » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:44 pm

UzayAltay wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:It seems Eragon just missed playing
TBH I were mad at You after Day 1 but I Dont atm.
You probably needed some fun and not caring much for that , which Everyone needs somehow (PS-meow meow game)
Welcome back, mate


I still hold that I have never seen a town before say

"If I was scum I would have made sure not to enter scummily"

Actually I Said that regardless of my algnment
Like , Do You really think I made posts without looking at least whether is it anti-town , or not ? I were Obviously looking my post at least once, to see whether I miswrote/say sth anti-town/Scummy.


yes I think people post without immediately thinking that what they post is towny or not, and even if they were to think about it, it wouldn't be for sure that it would be PERCEIVED as scummy, because being "Scummy" isn't something in objectivity, its something that is different for each individual person and is based on other people's perceptions of your play.

so to say that you would make sure that whatever you post is not scummy is just ??? in the first place and seeming like its flailing, while on the other hand it also represents a mindset of ATTEMPTING to look towny, instead of just naturally trying to play the game in an attempt to find scum.
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Re: SFM 70: Mafia Groups (Mafia Wins!)

Postby Royee » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:46 pm

UzayAltay wrote:TBH A better set-up could be 1KPN rotating + Mafia Roles cant Act with killing
Or Maybe after 2 Mafia dies Mafia became uniform , and have 1kpn fixed with acting and killing together.

that sounds nice.
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Re: SFM 70: Mafia Groups (Mafia Wins!)

Postby Eragon1329 » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:46 pm

mafia having a gunsmith is actually inherently town sided

which just goes to show how bad this setup was given that after 2 mislynchs we lost before even having an attempt at a third Lynch.

including a kill on mafia during the night, which isn't something that should be taken into account while balancing
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Re: SFM 70: Mafia Groups (Mafia Wins!)

Postby Eragon1329 » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:50 pm

I say mafia having a gunsmith is inherently town sided because of its ability to clear up the PoE and either

1) town having the gun as was the case here

or

2) leashing mafia into a shot on the PoE, or even into shooting the other mafia unless the mafia who has the gun is willing to out themselves in order to take a shot that actually helps mafia
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Re: SFM 70: Mafia Groups (Mafia Wins!)

Postby Eragon1329 » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:51 pm

TheWabbit wrote:rushing eragon to shoot poly did great


I mean I was ready to insta-gib uzay so you did well making me actually take any time on a shot

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Re: SFM 70: Mafia Groups (Mafia Wins!)

Postby TheWabbit » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:52 pm

Eragon1329 wrote:mafia having a gunsmith is actually inherently town sided

which just goes to show how bad this setup was given that after 2 mislynchs we lost before even having an attempt at a third Lynch.

including a kill on mafia during the night, which isn't something that should be taken into account while balancing

yes

we just capitalized on our current standing and your FM playstyle as a way to invert that

i originally treated your gun as an extra KPN on uzay because i trust you'll quickly shoot them with right push and timing
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Re: SFM 70: Mafia Groups (Mafia Wins!)

Postby Eragon1329 » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:53 pm

TheWabbit wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:mafia having a gunsmith is actually inherently town sided

which just goes to show how bad this setup was given that after 2 mislynchs we lost before even having an attempt at a third Lynch.

including a kill on mafia during the night, which isn't something that should be taken into account while balancing

yes

we just capitalized on our current standing and your FM playstyle as a way to invert that

i originally treated your gun as an extra KPN on uzay because i trust you'll quickly shoot them with right push and timing


which was exactly my reasoning on why I was given a gun

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Re: SFM 70: Mafia Groups (Mafia Wins!)

Postby TheWabbit » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:53 pm

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Re: SFM 70: Mafia Groups (Mafia Wins!)

Postby TheWabbit » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:54 pm

also that lucky shot on lemon preventing crisis
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Re: SFM 70: Mafia Groups (Mafia Wins!)

Postby Eragon1329 » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:54 pm

TheWabbit wrote:also that lucky shot on lemon preventing crisis


also the tied PR roles day 1 Lynch

and the kill on Murat
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