SFM 70: Mafia Groups (Mafia Wins!)

[polypies73]

i want to lynch eragon but unfortunately they are lock town

[Eragon1329]

This got boring real quick

boring is good because it means people finally realized that I am locktown, and all we need to do now is wait for the wolves to flop over and die

[polypies73]

This got boring real quick

quick who's scum who's town weeeeeeee

[polypies73]

can we all agree to ignore eragon for the time being

[yurkin]

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lol, it started 30 mins ago, and there is no post yet.
I mean, now I have 2...

finally

Can i pull a Wabbit, and have a page with only my posts?

Well, there is no context right now, so it definitely will be harder.

I stand by then fact scum are the more inpatient ones and more "try hard to look impatient" ones

/vote cenvil

[Eragon1329]

can we all agree to ignore eragon for the time being

are you trying to ignore the locktown person ?

[watchme1]

This got boring real quick

boring is good because it means people finally realized that I am locktown, and all we need to do now is wait for the wolves to flop over and die

This makes so much sense that I hate it

[yurkin]

Wow my brutally wielded meta caused everyone to leave


Is mafia talking to each other about how they already want to concede because of how locktown I am?

[polypies73]

can we all agree to ignore eragon for the time being

are you trying to ignore the locktown person ?

yes because even though you're lock town you're still bad

[watchme1]

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lol, it started 30 mins ago, and there is no post yet.
I mean, now I have 2...

finally

Can i pull a Wabbit, and have a page with only my posts?

Well, there is no context right now, so it definitely will be harder.

I stand by then fact scum are the more inpatient ones and more "try hard to look impatient" ones

/vote cenvil

So scum are equally impatient and attempting to look impatient

[yurkin]

A quick note about WW theory and how I will play this game. Note that the arguments and facts presented here are indisputable, and that I will not engage in arguments about them, because those arguments are you wasting everyone else's time about meta that is well and comprehensively established. Go make reads so we can read you.

I've reflected on my role and realized that there is a GTO play for me in this game, and therefore I am compelled to pursue it. I am going to brute force my clearness immediately upon the opening of the thread.

I am hard-claiming, I am the Citizen

Benefits:

1. I will survive tonight: I do not believe the wolves are able to kill me tonight, because it is so objectively unlikely that I would ever do this as the Citizen. I believe that this decision reduces the importance of the Citizen cover to be provided by all of you to the point of it being negligible. The wolves have already been outplayed, as it were.

2. I'm lock clear: All of you already know I'm lock clear, because it is so objectively unlikely that I would do this as a wolf. You know this for at least two reasons. First, this is the easiest, lowest-stress, lowest-demand game to wolf in that I've ever played in (except for turbos). I have no need to complicate my life, as a wolf, by open-claiming on thread open, when all Ihave to do is provide like a C-level wolf game to probably win. This is the rare instance where you literally know that I have a billion other options as a wolf, AND that I would pursue probably ALL of them before pursuing this. Second, I engage in FPS exceedingly rarely, which necessarily means that I *know* that this will look WEIRD and SHOCKING to you. There is no merit to a wolf play that instantly generates WEIRD and SHOCKED responses that I would be obligated to finesse and manage for the remainder of the game. As a villager, which I am, the burden is totally on you to not $#@! up and lynch me. Makes my life super awesome.

3. There are only 12 players you need to try to read, rather than 13: I have already provided a "free" check of me in a game with a mere 14 players. Our win equity is dramatically improved by my being entirely off the table for the entire game.

Conclusion:

The burden of sound reasoning is now entirely upon you. I am the Citizen, and thus a villager, and thus lock clear. The game is immediately simpler than it would otherwise have been, because of my decision. Now, let us enjoy that benefit and win the game.

Also, to preempt a lengthy and pointless discussion.

It is NOT dumb to ponder this post and convince yourself of its wisdom. That is your obligation as a villager, and I encourage you to think it over for as long as it takes to quell your (initially valid but ultimately unnecessary) concerns.

It IS dumb to, AFTER doing that pondering, conclude that I'm "neutral" or "wolfy." That is legitimately stupid, and I won't entertain it. ONE of the reasons it is a stupid conclusion is that the upside of this play as a wolf is absolutely DWARFED by the upside of this play as a villager. There is no equivalency between the EV gain for wolf-me in this position and villager-me in this position. They're universes apart. That means I wouldn't DO the poorer option of the two (by extension, wolf-me also wouldn't BELIEVE that I could convince the entire game of the truth of these assertions for the entire game, which as an end-game wolf I would have to believe if this strategem were to be worth pursuing). A SECOND reason that conclusion is stupid is that the EV bonus of doing this as a wolf is COMPLETELY DWARFED by me baseline wolf EV anyway. Anything that complicates my wolfing life is RIDICULOUSLY stupid for me to do, given that my wolfing life is ALREADY one of the smoothest, highest expectation wolfing lives in WW history anyway. A THIRD reason that conclusion is stupid is that you would probably have to worry about being EXPLOITED by this gambit in order to get there. However, I have NEVER engaged in this, or any similar, gambit in my entire career, meaning that if there IS exploitation to be had with this play, it is in FUTURE GAMES, not this game. For these reasons, pressuring me is extremely wolfy and should not be engaged in by any villager, ever, in this game. There will be no less productive pursuit than that in this game.

Sucks for the wolves when meta is wielded this brutally, but my allegiance is plain and my strategy perfect. Get #rekt.

Oh god this is not random Internet copypasta meaning I need to read this

[polypies73]

wait is yurkin serious

[yurkin]

[

lol, it started 30 mins ago, and there is no post yet.
I mean, now I have 2...

finally

Can i pull a Wabbit, and have a page with only my posts?

Well, there is no context right now, so it definitely will be harder.

I stand by then fact scum are the more inpatient ones and more "try hard to look impatient" ones

/vote cenvil

So scum are equally impatient and attempting to look impatient

You got this

[yurkin]

wait is yurkin serious

Idk about what?

[yurkin]

Uzay v Eragon is definitely something I need in my life right now :^)

sux for him when I wield meta so brutally

And here I imagine wielding a sword

[Eragon1329]

This got boring real quick

boring is good because it means people finally realized that I am locktown, and all we need to do now is wait for the wolves to flop over and die

This makes so much sense that I hate it

you're welcome

[Eragon1329]

can we all agree to ignore eragon for the time being

are you trying to ignore the locktown person ?

yes because even though you're lock town you're still bad

I wouldn't have to be so confrontational if people just accepted that im locktown :^)

[Eragon1329]

wait is yurkin serious

I am serious

[Eragon1329]

Uzay v Eragon is definitely something I need in my life right now :^)

sux for him when I wield meta so brutally

And here I imagine wielding a sword

Probably accurate description

[polypies73]

wait is yurkin serious

I am serious

yeah idc

[polypies73]

can we all agree to ignore eragon for the time being

are you trying to ignore the locktown person ?

yes because even though you're lock town you're still bad

I wouldn't have to be so confrontational if people just accepted that im locktown :^)

no and if you read the post again you're doing it wrong

[yurkin]

Eragon hard claiming cit is probably cit tbh

Maaaate.. mfw I didn't noticed any of this

[Eragon1329]

can we all agree to ignore eragon for the time being

are you trying to ignore the locktown person ?

yes because even though you're lock town you're still bad

I wouldn't have to be so confrontational if people just accepted that im locktown :^)

no and if you read the post again you're doing it wrong

I know that you're accepting me as locktown, which is good from you, but other people aren't and they must be purged of insanity :^)

[polypies73]

the good news is if we lose we can solely blame eragon

[polypies73]

It is NOT dumb to ponder this post and convince yourself of its wisdom. That is your obligation as a villager, and I encourage you to think it over for as long as it takes to quell your (initially valid but ultimately unnecessary) concerns.

cmon man