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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby SparkingJay » Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:18 am

polypies73 wrote:
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LOLingHyena wrote:
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polypies73 wrote:wait now you want to lynch uzay.
this is epic.

i basically do not care which one of micheal/uzay/multi dies as long as vengekills are done properly.

I want to lynch between Uzay and you. If whoever we lynch between you two flips town, I want the other venge-shot.

That means if we do, in fact, lynch Uzay and he flips town, I want him to shoot you.

The alternative is us lynching you and you shooting Uzay if you flip town. :P

eeee Not sure on either. Why Uzay would still hardpush Poly even after Poly scumreads them is suicidal for scum!Uzay.
I'll wait for le Dota's thoughts.

no it's literally the opposite. you can't tunnel someone and then stop pushing them lel

I mean. Because you are scumreading Uzay, if Uzay pushed you to your lynch. Uzay would put themselves at a high chance of being vengekilled by you.

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby SparkingJay » Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:19 am

Chemist1422 wrote:
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Chemist1422 wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:@Chem when You are here can You explain Poly , me , Sparking ?

sparking is mostly omgus plus I don’t think he’s actively trying to evaluate my slot
Hyena said the basis of my read on you better than I could, will find it soon
I think Poly just believes in his reads in a towny way

I am omgusing? since when. If you want me to go back on you then I can, I've had other shit to do as of today.
Poly read is vague. Elaborate pls

no I’m omgusing

it’s vague because it’s mostly gut

What about Poly's reads are towny tho? Is this a relation to meta, tone, etc?

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby SparkingJay » Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:22 am

UzayAltay wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:Anyone wanna play tic tac toe?


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kosmo16 wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:There should be atleast 1 scum in [Chemist/Wabbit]


True.

Why?

Mainly due to PoE, I can't see a world where they both flip town.

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby kosmo16 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:25 am

SparkingJayYT wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:Anyone wanna play tic tac toe?


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kosmo16 wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:There should be atleast 1 scum in [Chemist/Wabbit]


True.

Why?

Mainly due to PoE, I can't see a world where they both flip town.


I think their D4 was awful, high chance they both are scums, at least 1.
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby dota2reporter » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:01 am

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby MichaelgRook » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:22 am

I still believe both wabbit and chem are town
I'm vibin to video game snow themes and I blame chemist
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby Chemist1422 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:23 am

MichaelgRook wrote:I still believe both wabbit and chem are town

thanks for outing your townpeeks
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i guess this is goodbye?
(still here for danganronpa i guess)


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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby kosmo16 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:33 am

MichaelgRook wrote:I still believe both wabbit and chem are town


Maybe they were doing something D1-D3. Right now I can't really see them acting like Townies. However, I would feel uncomfortable voting them.
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby Chemist1422 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:35 am

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MichaelgRook wrote:I still believe both wabbit and chem are town


Maybe they were doing something D1-D3. Right now I can't really see them acting like Townies. However, I would feel uncomfortable voting them.

can you expand on this read, specifically why you’re not comfortable voting us?
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby LOLingHyena » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:38 am

SparkingJayYT wrote:If Uzay and Poly both flip town, I think we lose due to the day which the game should be over. That is what I am worried about right now.
It's definitely possible for all 3 to flip town and scums to be within Et/Chemist/Multi/Wabbit/Kosmo or something like that.

Okay, so... I'm not gonna lie. When I first put together that group of seven, which included those five you mentioned, it scared the fuck out of me. They are all people that can go either way for me, and I'm dreading having to sort them all if my worst case scenarion comes true, even if there are existing interactions that could potentially be TvS ones. With that said...

I'm having a brainfart right now. What are your reads on Uzay, Poly, and Michael right now? I thought you were scumreading at least one or two of them, but after going through your ISO, it doesn't look like you did?
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby LOLingHyena » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:40 am

@Uzay, I'll respond to your response to me, but I want you to comment on the plan I laid out last night first.
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby kosmo16 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:40 am

Chemist1422 wrote:
kosmo16 wrote:
MichaelgRook wrote:I still believe both wabbit and chem are town


Maybe they were doing something D1-D3. Right now I can't really see them acting like Townies. However, I would feel uncomfortable voting them.

can you expand on this read, specifically why you’re not comfortable voting us?


I just can't find convincing arguments to support my read. It's just gut feeling that you are not trying to do anything to solve people.
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby kosmo16 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:43 am

This wagon wasn't pure: SparkingJayYT, dota2reporter, MichaelgRook, Thewabbit, uzayaltay, AlwaysNever, Kosmo, Poly

I can understand votes of myself, Michael and dota.
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby LOLingHyena » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:50 am

MichaelgRook wrote:I still believe both wabbit and chem are town

Okay, can you give some reasons?

SparkingJayYT wrote:There should be atleast 1 scum in [Chemist/Wabbit]

Just out of curiosity, were those two choices in any way influenced by Dota including them in his "don't shoot" list? You kinda reacted to it here in this post:

SparkingJayYT wrote:
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LOLingHyena wrote:[Dota, Sparking, Acidic] <- Do NOT shoot any single one of these three if you get lynched and flipped town. I refuse to lose another townread like that.

Michael flipping scum would've probably spewed Acidic. Michael flipping town would've probably given us info about Chemist's alignment. There was NO reason why he shouldn't have been shot last night. AlwaysNever flipping town gives me nothing.

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that's probably my "dont shoot" list

Why Chemist/Wabbit?
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby LOLingHyena » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:53 am

LOLingHyena wrote:@Uzay, I'll respond to your response to me, but I want you to comment on the plan I laid out last night first.

@Dota, can you comment on my plan, too? It kinda goes against your desire to see Multi lynched today.
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby SparkingJay » Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:21 pm

LOLingHyena wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:If Uzay and Poly both flip town, I think we lose due to the day which the game should be over. That is what I am worried about right now.
It's definitely possible for all 3 to flip town and scums to be within Et/Chemist/Multi/Wabbit/Kosmo or something like that.

Okay, so... I'm not gonna lie. When I first put together that group of seven, which included those five you mentioned, it scared the fuck out of me. They are all people that can go either way for me, and I'm dreading having to sort them all if my worst case scenarion comes true, even if there are existing interactions that could potentially be TvS ones. With that said...

I'm having a brainfart right now. What are your reads on Uzay, Poly, and Michael right now? I thought you were scumreading at least one or two of them, but after going through your ISO, it doesn't look like you did?

Poly is a townread, mixture of their pure proven reads and their playstyle giving townvibes.
Uzay is null+/townlean, his stubbornness and determination to get a Poly lynch could be seen as a town trait for this set up due to the reasoning I provided earlier that Poly scumreads Uzay, so Uzay pushing for Poly lynch = Uzay gets vengekilled.
Michael was initially a townlean for his willingness to die, but after seeing both Jackson/Always flip town I had to bring him down due to PoE. So maybe Null-

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby SparkingJay » Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:25 pm

SparkingJayYT wrote:There should be atleast 1 scum in [Chemist/Wabbit]

Just out of curiosity, were those two choices in any way influenced by Dota including them in his "don't shoot" list? You kinda reacted to it here in this post:

SparkingJayYT wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:
LOLingHyena wrote:[Dota, Sparking, Acidic] <- Do NOT shoot any single one of these three if you get lynched and flipped town. I refuse to lose another townread like that.

Michael flipping scum would've probably spewed Acidic. Michael flipping town would've probably given us info about Chemist's alignment. There was NO reason why he shouldn't have been shot last night. AlwaysNever flipping town gives me nothing.

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that's probably my "dont shoot" list

Why Chemist/Wabbit?
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby UzayAltay » Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:33 pm

@Hyena is It you deciding solve poly/me ? If yes than you should know my opinion.
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby SparkingJay » Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:36 pm

UzayAltay wrote:@Hyena is It you deciding solve poly/me ? If yes than you should know my opinion.
(Finally)

Peace is always an option ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby SparkingJay » Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:36 pm

Uzay could I see a readslist?

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby kosmo16 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:44 pm

Between Poly and Uzay I choose poly for sure.
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby UzayAltay » Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:44 pm

SparkingJayYT wrote:Uzay could I see a readslist?

Old one except kosmo is TL instead N
Michael may change , too , but I need to read their ISO for that
46-46 Spoiler: Town Games(27-32)

NFM50,NFM51,NFM52,14D,14E, NFM54 ,14H (AF), 14G, NFM 55, NFM 56, 15C, NFM 57, NFM 58,15F,SFM45,16B, VFM36, 16D , SFM 47 , VFM38, NFM62 , 16G ,VFM 39, EpisodeXVII, 17B , 17C , VFM44 , 17D , 17F,18C,18D,18E,VFM55,VFM57,SFM64, 19C,VFM58,VFM59 ,19D,VFM60,SFM66,SFM67,VFM64,SFM70,VFM69,XX7,XX9, VFM71,VFM72, VFM73, VFM74, 21A,VFM75,VFM76,XX14,VFM77,XX16,VFM78,VFM79

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby UzayAltay » Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:45 pm

Should I find old one ?
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NFM50,NFM51,NFM52,14D,14E, NFM54 ,14H (AF), 14G, NFM 55, NFM 56, 15C, NFM 57, NFM 58,15F,SFM45,16B, VFM36, 16D , SFM 47 , VFM38, NFM62 , 16G ,VFM 39, EpisodeXVII, 17B , 17C , VFM44 , 17D , 17F,18C,18D,18E,VFM55,VFM57,SFM64, 19C,VFM58,VFM59 ,19D,VFM60,SFM66,SFM67,VFM64,SFM70,VFM69,XX7,XX9, VFM71,VFM72, VFM73, VFM74, 21A,VFM75,VFM76,XX14,VFM77,XX16,VFM78,VFM79

Scum Games (19-14)

NFM 48 , NFM 49 , TFM 65 ,TFM 66 , Episode XV ,TFM68 ,VFM 34, NFM61 , VFM42 , SFM53, VFM43,17E,VFM49,SFM60,CFM19,VFM54, EpisodeXIX, SFM63, 19E, 19F ,VFM62 ,VFM63,XX3,VFM66,XX5,VFM67,XX6,SFM72,XX8,VFM70,XX10,SFM76,SFM80
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby SparkingJay » Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:46 pm

kosmo16 wrote:Between Poly and Uzay I choose poly for sure.

Choose Poly as town or Poly as lynch?

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby SparkingJay » Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:47 pm

UzayAltay wrote:Should I find old one ?

I don't even remember seeing it, mainly why I asked

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