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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby MichaelgRook » Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:17 pm

thats a fair read sparking, I mean its not like I can fight poe that well, but it also doesn't change my willingness to die
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby SparkingJay » Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:36 pm

MichaelgRook wrote:thats a fair read sparking, I mean its not like I can fight poe that well, but it also doesn't change my willingness to die

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby SparkingJay » Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:36 pm

Anyone who uses the forums on 100% zoom deserves death

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby Chemist1422 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:05 pm

SparkingJayYT wrote:Anyone who uses the forums on 100% zoom deserves death

try not being blind
mist ~ she/they

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby SparkingJay » Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:16 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:Anyone who uses the forums on 100% zoom deserves death

try not being blind

nah g. I use 80% much better

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby Multiuniverse » Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:25 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:me dota Hyena top town
poly multi probably town
acidic et wabbit all *vague gesturing* tier
kosmo is a slot that exists
sparking uzay michael slots that I would kill


Explain all the reads

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby Multiuniverse » Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:26 pm

SparkingJayYT wrote:@Multi It is a slip because they didn't know that all townies have vengekill and thus believed their role was PR and Jackson was claiming their role.

I see it as more likely to come from town!Acidic, the risks outweigh the benefits of trying to delay/save a HTG lynch.


Oh
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Other stuffs still outweigh slip imo

For second point i guess its just a matter of opinion then

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby Multiuniverse » Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:28 pm

You know what
I will gladly selfvote if acidic votes me

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby MichaelgRook » Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:34 pm

SparkingJayYT wrote:Anyone who uses the forums on 100% zoom deserves death

is this some kind of computer joke I'm too mobile to understand
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby SparkingJay » Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:31 pm

MichaelgRook wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:Anyone who uses the forums on 100% zoom deserves death

is this some kind of computer joke I'm too mobile to understand

Is this some kind of mobile joke I’m too Nintendo DS to understand

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby SparkingJay » Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:32 pm

Multiuniverse wrote:You know what
I will gladly selfvote if acidic votes me

For a sec I was confused by now I get what you want

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby SparkingJay » Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:33 pm

Multiuniverse wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:@Multi It is a slip because they didn't know that all townies have vengekill and thus believed their role was PR and Jackson was claiming their role.

I see it as more likely to come from town!Acidic, the risks outweigh the benefits of trying to delay/save a HTG lynch.


Oh
Shrug
Other stuffs still outweigh slip imo

For second point i guess its just a matter of opinion then

Is the other stuffs referring to the possible attempt at nolynching or is there more?

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby LOLingHyena » Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:55 pm

UzayAltay wrote:@Hyena is It you deciding solve poly/me ? If yes than you should know my opinion.
(Finally)

Yes, and good. I just wanted to make sure you still okay with doing that.

SparkingJayYT wrote:Poly is a townread, mixture of their pure proven reads and their playstyle giving townvibes.
Uzay is null+/townlean, his stubbornness and determination to get a Poly lynch could be seen as a town trait for this set up due to the reasoning I provided earlier that Poly scumreads Uzay, so Uzay pushing for Poly lynch = Uzay gets vengekilled.
Michael was initially a townlean for his willingness to die, but after seeing both Jackson/Always flip town I had to bring him down due to PoE. So maybe Null-

Alright.

I still think I want to go through with at least the first part of my plan... but if we do end up with two townflips, I'll re-evaluate wanting to then lynch Michael afterwards. Don't get me wrong though, I do understand what you're saying with regard to Uzay and Poly.
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby LOLingHyena » Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:02 pm

Multiuniverse wrote:
LOLingHyena wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:
LOLingHyena wrote:I feel like my frustration is becoming a detriment to my ability to read people right now, so I'm going to try to do something else.

I did some thinking, and [Uzay, Michael, Poly] -- is it unreasonable to think that there is AT LEAST one town in this group? If Uzay is scum, I think Poly might be his townpeek, which would make Poly the "at least one town" in this scenario with Michael still being a question mark. If Poly is scum, does that increase the likelihood of Uzay and Michael being town? Uzay was wrong on Jackson though, so I dunno if this holds up strongly for him, but in Michael's case, I think it kinda applies? So, Michael would be the "at least one town" in this scenario. Finally, if Michael is scum... I don't know if this affects how I'm reading Uzay and Poly? But it would make me feel confident in my own reads again, which in turn would lead me to believe Poly, again, would be the "at least one town" in this scenario.

If we can confirm that there is at least ONE town in that group, then I might use [Uzay/Michael/Poly] as a single slot in my towncore for now and try to look outside of it for scum.


How does this analysis benefit us in any way, shape, or form

I think , they are planning an endgame vote after they are sure no scum outside there
Which is ???

Every time either of you two ask or say stuff like this, I want to lynch both of you just a little more.

If there are two scum in those three, or even better, just one, then I think we have a good shot at finding scum outside that group of three. Yes, I'm assuming there's six scum based on Wabbit's and other people's estimations. If there are more than six scum, my argument is even better, because that actually RAISES the odds of finding scum outsides of that group of three.

It has NOTHING to do with planning any sort of endgame vote, so don't even think about trying to reframe it as such.


Okay yes but when you get down to it this is just a fancy way of doing reads
What's the difference between this and doing plain ol' reads with only 6 scums

The Uzay, Poly, and Michael stuff keeps dragging my attention away from other people, and part of the purpose of my post was to also reason with myself that the world won't end instantly if I decide to look outside of just those three. Granted, it ended up not working as you can see with the plan I laid out earlier.

By the way, what do you think of the plan?
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby LOLingHyena » Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:06 pm

Multiuniverse wrote:You know what
I will gladly selfvote if acidic votes me

Acidic, would you be up for doing this? :P
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby AcidicBreeze » Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:18 pm

LOLingHyena wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:You know what
I will gladly selfvote if acidic votes me

Acidic, would you be up for doing this? :P

Im fine with it. If hes town i know im getting vengene killed but whatever
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby polypies73 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:40 pm

groups of peopel to solve.

[uzay, poly]
[multi,acidic,micheal]
[chemist, sparking, wabbit,et]

there should be at least one scum in each bracket.
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby Multiuniverse » Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:57 pm

SparkingJayYT wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:@Multi It is a slip because they didn't know that all townies have vengekill and thus believed their role was PR and Jackson was claiming their role.

I see it as more likely to come from town!Acidic, the risks outweigh the benefits of trying to delay/save a HTG lynch.


Oh
Shrug
Other stuffs still outweigh slip imo

For second point i guess its just a matter of opinion then

Is the other stuffs referring to the possible attempt at nolynching or is there more?


Just being utr, sheep votes, and iirc some opportunistic votes

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby Multiuniverse » Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:00 pm

LOLingHyena wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:
LOLingHyena wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:
LOLingHyena wrote:I feel like my frustration is becoming a detriment to my ability to read people right now, so I'm going to try to do something else.

I did some thinking, and [Uzay, Michael, Poly] -- is it unreasonable to think that there is AT LEAST one town in this group? If Uzay is scum, I think Poly might be his townpeek, which would make Poly the "at least one town" in this scenario with Michael still being a question mark. If Poly is scum, does that increase the likelihood of Uzay and Michael being town? Uzay was wrong on Jackson though, so I dunno if this holds up strongly for him, but in Michael's case, I think it kinda applies? So, Michael would be the "at least one town" in this scenario. Finally, if Michael is scum... I don't know if this affects how I'm reading Uzay and Poly? But it would make me feel confident in my own reads again, which in turn would lead me to believe Poly, again, would be the "at least one town" in this scenario.

If we can confirm that there is at least ONE town in that group, then I might use [Uzay/Michael/Poly] as a single slot in my towncore for now and try to look outside of it for scum.


How does this analysis benefit us in any way, shape, or form

I think , they are planning an endgame vote after they are sure no scum outside there
Which is ???

Every time either of you two ask or say stuff like this, I want to lynch both of you just a little more.

If there are two scum in those three, or even better, just one, then I think we have a good shot at finding scum outside that group of three. Yes, I'm assuming there's six scum based on Wabbit's and other people's estimations. If there are more than six scum, my argument is even better, because that actually RAISES the odds of finding scum outsides of that group of three.

It has NOTHING to do with planning any sort of endgame vote, so don't even think about trying to reframe it as such.


Okay yes but when you get down to it this is just a fancy way of doing reads
What's the difference between this and doing plain ol' reads with only 6 scums

The Uzay, Poly, and Michael stuff keeps dragging my attention away from other people, and part of the purpose of my post was to also reason with myself that the world won't end instantly if I decide to look outside of just those three. Granted, it ended up not working as you can see with the plan I laid out earlier.

By the way, what do you think of the plan?


from a personal viewpoint; no since it does not involve acidic immediately dying
from an objective viewpoint; meh, sounds like lynching your scumreads with extra steps

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby Multiuniverse » Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:00 pm

AcidicBreeze wrote:
LOLingHyena wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:You know what
I will gladly selfvote if acidic votes me

Acidic, would you be up for doing this? :P

Im fine with it. If hes town i know im getting vengene killed but whatever

Deal
vote me

/vote Multiuniverse

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby therealet1 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:18 pm

bah i might replace out
im not really feeling this game anymore

on top of that im a lil busy recently
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby polypies73 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:19 pm

Multiuniverse wrote:
AcidicBreeze wrote:
LOLingHyena wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:You know what
I will gladly selfvote if acidic votes me

Acidic, would you be up for doing this? :P

Im fine with it. If hes town i know im getting vengene killed but whatever

Deal
vote me

/vote Multiuniverse

ok multi told me to vote him

/vote multi
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby LOLingHyena » Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:08 pm

polypies73 wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:
AcidicBreeze wrote:
LOLingHyena wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:You know what
I will gladly selfvote if acidic votes me

Acidic, would you be up for doing this? :P

Im fine with it. If hes town i know im getting vengene killed but whatever

Deal
vote me

/vote Multiuniverse

ok multi told me to vote him

/vote multi

I should've specified that I'm still more interested in resolving you and Uzay. :P

In fact, I think I'm gonna double down right now and just say those are the only two lynches that I want happening today.

/vote Polypies
:P

I'll switch to Uzay once you switch back to him.
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby LOLingHyena » Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:10 pm

Multiuniverse wrote:from a personal viewpoint; no since it does not involve acidic immediately dying
from an objective viewpoint; meh, sounds like lynching your scumreads with extra steps

In this case, yes, it pretty much is. The extra steps are preparation for the worst case scenario in case we run into it.
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Icy Death: Day 5

Postby LOLingHyena » Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:12 pm

polypies73 wrote:groups of peopel to solve.

[uzay, poly]
[multi,acidic,micheal]
[chemist, sparking, wabbit,et]

there should be at least one scum in each bracket.

The order of the tiers is pretty much the order I had in mind in trying to solve people, though things can change depending on how things end up going.

I already have some thoughts on some of the people in the lower brackets, but I want to wait until tomorrow to start talking about it.
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