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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby LOLingHyena » Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:51 pm

MichaelgRook wrote:
MichaelgRook wrote:I'd also throw in acidic because even if their play isnt getting a lot of town lynched thats not how scum survive

win*
thats not how scum win

also

/vote acidic

I'm confident in this again


Alright, so this post from Michael really pinged me because just yesterday (or the day before), he conveniently stopped feeling confident in Acidic when his vote on Acidic would have tied his wagon with theirs as the top wagon. I talked about this in this post:

MichaelgRook wrote:
LOLingHyena wrote:
MichaelgRook wrote:
polypies73 wrote:
null is boring

it's d3 start putting people in scum or townreads

if you get rid of your nulls then you have a bunch of really weak town and/or scum reads that you really can't explain

Weak town and scum reads are still better than null reads. And kind of town or scum read indicates a decision you've made on someone, where as a null read is a lack of one, especially when there's no explanation why someone's null, too. It's objectively town to be making decisions on someone, because it pushes the game forward.

MichaelgRook wrote:I've lost all confidence in my acidic scum read

heck

Okay. Why? Coincidentally, a vote count was posted shortly after you made this post (at 2:00pmEST), and the three leading wagons were you with three votes and Acidic+AlwaysNever with two votes. You voting Acidic at that point would've tied them up with your wagon. Why shouldn't I think right now that you don't want to scumread Acidic anymore because it means you'll actually have to vote for them and potentially be on their wagon in order to lynch them? Why shouldn't I think they are a townclear for you?

thats a fair point about null reads

I don't see how the timing of a votecount after my post matters, but I'm seeing acidic as less of scum and more of just a prodger, but it also could just have something to do with my wim drop, I'm not entirely sure, literally as I'm typing this I'm starting to see that a prodge could be a play scum!acidic uses to lose attention and subsequently pressure so it could just be a lack of overall interest affecting my reads


What I want to know, Michael, is why did things change again? You didn't even really have a good explanation for why you lost confidence in the scum read in the first place. What changed this time?
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby LOLingHyena » Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:55 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:question

why did the michael wagon die

Why aren't you helping keep the wagon going today? :P

Chemist1422 wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:@dota please stop using big text

as a town leader my voice needs to be heard, therefore i have to use it to convey ideas clearly

who says you get to be a town leader :/

Me. We're co-leaders. :P
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby polypies73 » Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:58 pm

micheal does have to die soon true, not spicy but safer kill.
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby LOLingHyena » Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:59 pm

MichaelgRook wrote:my pool is <acidic, jackson, poly, uzay, google, et>

I can be persuaded against poly and maybe uzay

When did ET enter the mix?
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby LOLingHyena » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:03 am

MichaelgRook wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:therealet1
JacksonVirgo
polypies73
Google
MichaelgRook

appareantly, if my analysis are right, this group has 3 or 4 scum

this is a solid list ngl

personally I want to take jackson, poly, and et as a poe from that

probably look something like [jackson>et>poly]

lol, what?

Okay, like, I'm trying not to be too unfair to you since you are one of the options here and I don't expect you to pick yourself.

BUT

Out of the four people that you could pick from to say they are the least scummy, you pick Google? Over Poly and ET? This one definitely needs an explanation, lol.
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby LOLingHyena » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:06 am

TheWabbit wrote:i'm tired 24/7

Chemist1422 - poe
therealet1 - probs v
JacksonVirgo - poe
SparkingJayYT - v
UzayAltay - probs v but could go down poe anytime
LOLingHyena - v
Multiuniverse - probs v but could go down poe anytime
AcidicBreeze - poe
polypies73 - probs v but could go down poe anytime
AlwaysNever* - poe
Google - poe
MichaelgRook - undetermined, poe for now
dota2reporter - v

{dota2reporter, LOLingHyena}
{SparkingJayYT, therealet1}
{UzayAltay, Multiuniverse, polypies73}
{Chemist1422, MichaelgRook, AlwaysNever}
{Google (kosmo), AcidicBreeze, JacksonVirgo}

w!Google -> v!et
dota's the only one fixated on top town
i'd eliminate bottom tier first, middle tier is subject to change

Meh...
Aside from few small disagreements in placements, I am kinda vibing with this list.
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby LOLingHyena » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:10 am

TheWabbit wrote:
LOLingHyena wrote:/vote Wabbit

hot

TheWabbit wrote:i'm tired of sorting poly/uzay with how p155 is going on

TheWabbit wrote:
polypies73 wrote:wabbit why are you not solving i'm dissapointed

i already solved the game

-> uninstall brain

So... I still stand by my read that Wabbit is lacking energy, but I can't deny that these posts, especially the latter two, are a mood for me, too.
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby LOLingHyena » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:19 am

TheWabbit wrote:
AcidicBreeze wrote:
polypies73 wrote:acidic why shouldn't we lynch you

because im town.
all honestly yesterdays play was not the best choice in hindsight but it was either me with believing htg was town having them lynched or a nolynch.

i'm town too

now i'll never be lynched

nyahahahahahaha

lol

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polypies73 wrote:multi's ISO is bleh
idk how to read it
send help

I'm taking everything on face value right now, unless some shit appeared that makes me dive into someone's ISO
like uzay and you D3


Okay, so, I think Wabbit is on autodrive right now, and normally I'd be more concerned, but like, I don't know what else I'd expect him to do right now? Like, yeah, Poly, Dota, Uzay, and I haven't been struggling to post, but at the same time, it still feels like we're going in circles right now talking about the same topics. Wabbit never seemed like someone who has a lot of patience for that. Like, to me, he's more the type to just want to get shit done so that we can get more info to act on, which is why I think he'll have more energy later after we've lynched more people? I could be wrong though.
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby LOLingHyena » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:23 am

Yeah, I don't think I want Wabbit on the table today. I'll give him another day.

/vote Michael

I want to put Michael up against Acidic again, I think.
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby polypies73 » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:02 am

in response to all that:

yes
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby polypies73 » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:03 am

/vote micheal

this vote is a sheep
follow the almighty hyena
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:20 am

LOLingHyena wrote:Like, are you completely rejecting the idea that you could be his townpeek because you're actually scum and you know that can't be possible? Is that what's going on, Uzay?

I realized it is possible after his death
But not before .
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:24 am

I wont vote Michael .
Can vote Acidic Because their horrible EOD3.
46-46 Spoiler: Town Games(27-32)

NFM50,NFM51,NFM52,14D,14E, NFM54 ,14H (AF), 14G, NFM 55, NFM 56, 15C, NFM 57, NFM 58,15F,SFM45,16B, VFM36, 16D , SFM 47 , VFM38, NFM62 , 16G ,VFM 39, EpisodeXVII, 17B , 17C , VFM44 , 17D , 17F,18C,18D,18E,VFM55,VFM57,SFM64, 19C,VFM58,VFM59 ,19D,VFM60,SFM66,SFM67,VFM64,SFM70,VFM69,XX7,XX9, VFM71,VFM72, VFM73, VFM74, 21A,VFM75,VFM76,XX14,VFM77,XX16,VFM78,VFM79

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby polypies73 » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:26 am

UzayAltay wrote:I wont vote Michael .
Can vote Acidic Because their horrible EOD3.

why not micheal
is he your townpeek :EvilLUL:
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:45 am

polypies73 wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:I wont vote Michael .
Can vote Acidic Because their horrible EOD3.

why not micheal
is he your townpeek :EvilLUL:

Actually I change my mind .
Let's lynch Poly .
If they are somehow town , they shot me in return .
Or Let's lynch me and Let me shot them .
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Scum Games (19-14)

NFM 48 , NFM 49 , TFM 65 ,TFM 66 , Episode XV ,TFM68 ,VFM 34, NFM61 , VFM42 , SFM53, VFM43,17E,VFM49,SFM60,CFM19,VFM54, EpisodeXIX, SFM63, 19E, 19F ,VFM62 ,VFM63,XX3,VFM66,XX5,VFM67,XX6,SFM72,XX8,VFM70,XX10,SFM76,SFM80
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:47 am

Poly Why You are voting Michael in First place ?
They aren't your scumread .
Maybe he is your townpeeks and You want Hım gone ?
46-46 Spoiler: Town Games(27-32)

NFM50,NFM51,NFM52,14D,14E, NFM54 ,14H (AF), 14G, NFM 55, NFM 56, 15C, NFM 57, NFM 58,15F,SFM45,16B, VFM36, 16D , SFM 47 , VFM38, NFM62 , 16G ,VFM 39, EpisodeXVII, 17B , 17C , VFM44 , 17D , 17F,18C,18D,18E,VFM55,VFM57,SFM64, 19C,VFM58,VFM59 ,19D,VFM60,SFM66,SFM67,VFM64,SFM70,VFM69,XX7,XX9, VFM71,VFM72, VFM73, VFM74, 21A,VFM75,VFM76,XX14,VFM77,XX16,VFM78,VFM79

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:49 am

polypies73 wrote:updated:

[hyena, dota]
[sparking, chemist]
[realet, always, google, micheal, jackson]
[uzay, wabbit, multi, acidic]

Jackson needs to be checked with his recent TWTBAW nonsense. Multi can also be moved up, also need to read ISO.
Realet is probably being moved up after I read their ISO, I think I remember giving them towncred before idk

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby AcidicBreeze » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:50 am

polypies73 wrote:
AcidicBreeze wrote:I've already explained why i did why i did. I would still do it again in the same circumstances. What exactly is it you want from me right now?

playing the game

voting
scumreads
townreads
content

lmao

That is a good start yes.
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby AcidicBreeze » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:52 am

AcidicBreeze wrote:
polypies73 wrote:
AcidicBreeze wrote:I've already explained why i did why i did. I would still do it again in the same circumstances. What exactly is it you want from me right now?

playing the game

voting
scumreads
townreads
content

lmao

That is a good start yes.

From my point of view im finding it hard to get any town reads or scum reads aside from probably realet town. Yesterdays flip has completely knocked out any idea of the game i had from my earlier catchup
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby dota2reporter » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:59 am

problem with acidic is first thing he did coming into d4 was apologise for his EoD3 and find an excuse

dont think thats townie at all
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby AcidicBreeze » Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:11 am

dota2reporter wrote:problem with acidic is first thing he did coming into d4 was apologise for his EoD3 and find an excuse

dont think thats townie at all

I literally said i was trying to get a nolynch?
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby dota2reporter » Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:26 am

AcidicBreeze wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:problem with acidic is first thing he did coming into d4 was apologise for his EoD3 and find an excuse

dont think thats townie at all

I literally said i was trying to get a nolynch?

wait really? nvm then

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:32 am

dota2reporter wrote:
AcidicBreeze wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:problem with acidic is first thing he did coming into d4 was apologise for his EoD3 and find an excuse

dont think thats townie at all

I literally said i was trying to get a nolynch?

wait really? nvm then

/vote michael

Can I ask for The case on Michael ?
46-46 Spoiler: Town Games(27-32)

NFM50,NFM51,NFM52,14D,14E, NFM54 ,14H (AF), 14G, NFM 55, NFM 56, 15C, NFM 57, NFM 58,15F,SFM45,16B, VFM36, 16D , SFM 47 , VFM38, NFM62 , 16G ,VFM 39, EpisodeXVII, 17B , 17C , VFM44 , 17D , 17F,18C,18D,18E,VFM55,VFM57,SFM64, 19C,VFM58,VFM59 ,19D,VFM60,SFM66,SFM67,VFM64,SFM70,VFM69,XX7,XX9, VFM71,VFM72, VFM73, VFM74, 21A,VFM75,VFM76,XX14,VFM77,XX16,VFM78,VFM79

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:41 am

UzayAltay wrote:
polypies73 wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:I wont vote Michael .
Can vote Acidic Because their horrible EOD3.

why not micheal
is he your townpeek :EvilLUL:

Actually I change my mind .
Let's lynch Poly .
If they are somehow town , they shot me in return .
Or Let's lynch me and Let me shot them .

Also that offer is still active .
46-46 Spoiler: Town Games(27-32)

NFM50,NFM51,NFM52,14D,14E, NFM54 ,14H (AF), 14G, NFM 55, NFM 56, 15C, NFM 57, NFM 58,15F,SFM45,16B, VFM36, 16D , SFM 47 , VFM38, NFM62 , 16G ,VFM 39, EpisodeXVII, 17B , 17C , VFM44 , 17D , 17F,18C,18D,18E,VFM55,VFM57,SFM64, 19C,VFM58,VFM59 ,19D,VFM60,SFM66,SFM67,VFM64,SFM70,VFM69,XX7,XX9, VFM71,VFM72, VFM73, VFM74, 21A,VFM75,VFM76,XX14,VFM77,XX16,VFM78,VFM79

Scum Games (19-14)

NFM 48 , NFM 49 , TFM 65 ,TFM 66 , Episode XV ,TFM68 ,VFM 34, NFM61 , VFM42 , SFM53, VFM43,17E,VFM49,SFM60,CFM19,VFM54, EpisodeXIX, SFM63, 19E, 19F ,VFM62 ,VFM63,XX3,VFM66,XX5,VFM67,XX6,SFM72,XX8,VFM70,XX10,SFM76,SFM80
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby dota2reporter » Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:48 am

UzayAltay wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:
AcidicBreeze wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:problem with acidic is first thing he did coming into d4 was apologise for his EoD3 and find an excuse

dont think thats townie at all

I literally said i was trying to get a nolynch?

wait really? nvm then

/vote michael

Can I ask for The case on Michael ?

i think i did it sometime on day 3, dont remember
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