SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia-Game Over-Christmas Saved?

[Rickdaily12]

hey kosmo you're at L-2 what do you have to say

your reaction test just got rekt by rick

yeah lmao

NAUGHTY NAUGHTY! I HAD TO FIX THE VOTE COUNT, SINCE AS IT WOULD SEEM, BEING THE GHOST OF CHRISTMAS PAST IS HEREDITARY!

BUT BY ALL MEANS, CONTINUE TO LIE TO YOUR FELLOW "FRIENDS" SO BLATANTLY, IT'S HILARIOUS!

[SparkingJay]

I did some thinking, and right now, I don't think there's more than 5 scum remaining, if not 4. Mafia can't kill people in any town core that forms, and if town follows along, I would hope they wouldn't think to shoot in one either. Thus, I think a {me, Dota, Multi, Uzay, Sparking} town core is very sufficient to get us through the rest of the game 95% of the time as long as we favor killing people we AREN'T townreading first over those we are.

I read Poly much better for their scumreads than both Multi and Uzay. Possibly Acidic as well mainly due to the slip.

[Multiuniverse]

You see, the beauty of that strategy is that it's a gamble that they would have to take sooner or later because
1) maybe their townpeek is someone widely townread
2) maybe they suggested a wagon on their townpeek but others disagree
3) maybe their townpeek is already dead

So therefore they is probably a handful of scums who would be forced to play blind and thus have to adapt the strategy of getting townread and become a deepwolf to survive and win the game for wolf

Furthermore, as i have said, it's a gamble. For the scums on htg's wagon, they don't know what htg will flip. Maybe they even thought they were town, who knows. They just have to push scummy people to avoid putting themself in the poe. After all, the death of a possible scum is surely better than risking putting themself under the executioner's axe.

See all you're saying here is that scum has to make plays to play the game. What I think is better discussing is what are the most likely plays.

If we don't give any thought to this, and just ignore what scum are doing, then we are just putting ourselves in a more losing position.

What
My arguments literally summarised why its more likely scum would go for towncred than not

When exactly did your arguments turn into that though? I ask because you posted this during D2, I think, before the other post Poly quoted:

Tilted getting shot is disappointing but not unexpected nor completely unhelpful since he was the main one who was pushing the Watchme wagon. If he hadn't been shot, I have a feeling that there would've been people questioning why he was doing it and even potentially considering him for today's lynch. We don't have to go through all of that now, at least.

I probably wouldn't have gone through with a Tilted lynch, he was pretty aggressive and blunt with the push.

Tilted flipped town, and I know I'm town. What I'm going to do is look at the remaining eight of you to see if you had any meaningful interactions with Watchme that would lead me to believe that they were a townpeek for someone who is scum. I'm also going to look for people who mentioned or interacted with Tilted, too, even if Tilted wasn't really ever considered to be lynched D1.

If someone had a townpeek on Watchme, they could have just avoided the wagon to reduce the risk of being haunted.

The point of townpeak is scum push them to avoid hitting their allies

Defending watchme wouldn't really give scum much towncred since watchme wasn't widely townread

[Multiuniverse]

Poly pushing both wolves early is epic lol

It's almost like that matters
Hint: it doesnt since scum doesnt know each other

What matters in your eyes for this setup? What's going to be town/scum indicative to you?

This is paranoia
There's no "most likely plans" since this is the second game to be hosted. The strategy proposed is as valid and just as likely as any others.

How are you playing the game right now then? Like, all this talk about "no most likely plans" and "it doesn't matter" feels like a way to dismiss people's reads, and at the same time, you're not really providing any alternative strategy to use.

multi sounds like

"fuck this, fuck that
we're all gonna die"

That
Is lowkey my state of mind right now

[polypies73]

uzay's not getting lynched today is he.
this is so sad.

/vote wabbit
haha die trash

[polypies73]

acidic can also die.
multi can live for now.
jackson also can get vengekilled.

basically kill evveryone

[AlwaysNever]

hello i'm here

/vote AcidicBreeze

AMA

[SparkingJay]

updated:

[hyena, dota]
[sparking, chemist]
[realet, always, google, micheal, jackson]
[uzay, wabbit, multi, acidic]

Jackson needs to be checked with his recent TWTBAW nonsense. Multi can also be moved up, also need to read ISO.
Realet is probably being moved up after I read their ISO, I think I remember giving them towncred before idk

What makes you confident Acidic/Uzay is scum?

[polypies73]

the amount of no voting is sad.
let's get some big boi wagons going

[polypies73]

updated:

[hyena, dota]
[sparking, chemist]
[realet, always, google, micheal, jackson]
[uzay, wabbit, multi, acidic]

Jackson needs to be checked with his recent TWTBAW nonsense. Multi can also be moved up, also need to read ISO.
Realet is probably being moved up after I read their ISO, I think I remember giving them towncred before idk

What makes you confident Acidic/Uzay is scum?

uzay I think you can figure out from like most of my recent posts.

acidic mainly wagonomics, not doing anything, lowkey wanting a no-lynch

[SparkingJay]

what's everyone lynch pool?

im unsure after the flips on htg atm.

Could you make some reads at least

[TheWabbit]

Poly pushing both wolves early is epic lol

It's almost like that matters
Hint: it doesnt since scum doesnt know each other

What matters in your eyes for this setup? What's going to be town/scum indicative to you?

This is paranoia
There's no "most likely plans" since this is the second game to be hosted. The strategy proposed is as valid and just as likely as any others.

How are you playing the game right now then? Like, all this talk about "no most likely plans" and "it doesn't matter" feels like a way to dismiss people's reads, and at the same time, you're not really providing any alternative strategy to use.

multi sounds like

"fuck this, fuck that
we're all gonna die"

That
Is lowkey my state of mind right now

that's me everyday

[TheWabbit]

oh good morning

ur spewed scum by htg
what are you gonna do about it

[polypies73]

oh good morning

ur spewed scum by htg
what are you gonna do about it

lel

[SparkingJay]

updated:

[hyena, dota]
[sparking, chemist]
[realet, always, google, micheal, jackson]
[uzay, wabbit, multi, acidic]

Jackson needs to be checked with his recent TWTBAW nonsense. Multi can also be moved up, also need to read ISO.
Realet is probably being moved up after I read their ISO, I think I remember giving them towncred before idk

What makes you confident Acidic/Uzay is scum?

uzay I think you can figure out from like most of my recent posts.

acidic mainly wagonomics, not doing anything, lowkey wanting a no-lynch

I'll come back to the Uzay one after catch-up.
Acidic is alright, wanting a no-lynch doesn't exactly make them scum as they would be unaware of HTG's alignment unless they were avoiding the wagon to not get venge-killed.

[TheWabbit]

oh good morning

ur spewed scum by htg
what are you gonna do about it

lel

your input for this matter is irrelevant, peon

[polypies73]

oh good morning

ur spewed scum by htg
what are you gonna do about it

lel

your input for this matter is irrelevant, peon

no u

[SparkingJay]

acidic why shouldn't we lynch you

because im town.
all honestly yesterdays play was not the best choice in hindsight but it was either me with believing htg was town having them lynched or a nolynch.

Defending your townreads are fine, but look at the bigger picture where no-lynch would be terrible for town even if HTG was town.

[polypies73]

updated:

[hyena, dota]
[sparking, chemist]
[realet, always, google, micheal, jackson]
[uzay, wabbit, multi, acidic]

Jackson needs to be checked with his recent TWTBAW nonsense. Multi can also be moved up, also need to read ISO.
Realet is probably being moved up after I read their ISO, I think I remember giving them towncred before idk

What makes you confident Acidic/Uzay is scum?

uzay I think you can figure out from like most of my recent posts.

acidic mainly wagonomics, not doing anything, lowkey wanting a no-lynch

I'll come back to the Uzay one after catch-up.
Acidic is alright, wanting a no-lynch doesn't exactly make them scum as they would be unaware of HTG's alignment unless they were avoiding the wagon to not get venge-killed.

wanting a no-lynch is -EV for town. Sure they could be town, but seems more unlikely, i don't think acidic's bad enough to want a no-lynch as town.

[SparkingJay]

my pool is <acidic, jackson, poly, uzay, google, et>

I can be persuaded against poly and maybe uzay

Yeah without Uzay/Poly it would be pretty decent for now

[SparkingJay]

/vote Wabbit

I'm not entirely opposed to this

[SparkingJay]

what are the current ideas for today. i know theres still 48 hours or so left in the day but still

What would you like them to be?

Im not really sure. I have a few ideas on potential town but no solid scumreads

Share them

[UzayAltay]

I did some thinking, and right now, I don't think there's more than 5 scum remaining, if not 4. Mafia can't kill people in any town core that forms, and if town follows along, I would hope they wouldn't think to shoot in one either. Thus, I think a {me, Dota, Multi, Uzay, Sparking} town core is very sufficient to get us through the rest of the game 95% of the time as long as we favor killing people we AREN'T townreading first over those we are.

I read Poly much better for their scumreads than both Multi and Uzay. Possibly Acidic as well mainly due to the slip.

Do You mean current scumreads , old ?

[UzayAltay]

updated:

[hyena, dota]
[sparking, chemist]
[realet, always, google, micheal, jackson]
[uzay, wabbit, multi, acidic]

Jackson needs to be checked with his recent TWTBAW nonsense. Multi can also be moved up, also need to read ISO.
Realet is probably being moved up after I read their ISO, I think I remember giving them towncred before idk

What makes you confident Acidic/Uzay is scum?

uzay I think you can figure out from like most of my recent posts.

acidic mainly wagonomics, not doing anything, lowkey wanting a no-lynch

Come on If You think I am scum You should be able to explain instead saying " look at Recent posts "

[UzayAltay]

I did some thinking, and right now, I don't think there's more than 5 scum remaining, if not 4. Mafia can't kill people in any town core that forms, and if town follows along, I would hope they wouldn't think to shoot in one either. Thus, I think a {me, Dota, Multi, Uzay, Sparking} town core is very sufficient to get us through the rest of the game 95% of the time as long as we favor killing people we AREN'T townreading first over those we are.

I read Poly much better for their scumreads than both Multi and Uzay. Possibly Acidic as well mainly due to the slip.

Do You mean current scumreads ,or old ones ?

Ebwop