SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia-Game Over-Christmas Saved?

[polypies73]

I literally repeeated my defence 1 page ago I give up uzay feel free to tunnel for the exact some reason you've used for the whole past day.
and no other reasons

[polypies73]

Seems like the micheal CFD came just after the jackson one somehow, with HTG, Hyena, Dota and Acidic jumping on that one.

Pretty comfortable calling Acidic scum here.
Micheal also gets free townpeek cred for his EoD.

I'll need to check what hyena was doing, not so comfortable calling them scum here due to their overall play but the wagonomics look pretty bad.

[multi, jackson, always] scumlean
[uzay, acidic, wabbit] scum

google slot is idk.
There's also someone else probably FUTR.

You are definitely pushing Acidic for wrong reason .
Can You push them ? Yes , but that shouldn't be main area , that can be at most Side-push area .

what does this mean.
is acidic one of your townpeeks

[polypies73]

/vote uzay

This can die for obv reasons stated before.

I'm checking the CFD's on Jackson and Micheal.

Chemist also is pretty sus at EoD

Can You say that " obvious reasons " ?

1. terrible tunneling on me that started pretty muhc out of nowhere.
2. OMGUS on wabbit when he voted you
3. Not voting the top wagons
4. Not scumhunting (only focusing on me basically)

etc. etc.

1. Not out of nowhere , You Literally tried your every chance until You cant no More avoid it I'm fairly certain you almost never commented on me, until the "htg dodge question" thing.
2. It wasnt OMGUS . I asked them for A reason on push on me and they didnt give A fair one . Than when they asked for reason to me I understood they didnt understand my reason .
3. ???
Day 3 I stated I wont , Because nobody is following me . so you're admitting to being scummy what?
Day 2 I Did .
Day 1 my vote was on Jackson , and when I Go both Jackson and watchme had Same or very close votes .
4.I stated that , to , If Everyone would ignore my reads Why would I scumread More players ?
Als I am not scumreading just You , I had A SR on Jackson , too .(Again Everyone ignored )
so you're saying you've only scumhunted two players? again you're just saying you're being scummy here

[SparkingJay]

Poly pushing both wolves early is epic lol

It's almost like that matters
Hint: it doesnt since scum doesnt know each other

it significantly increases the chances of him being town because that means he wasn't pushing his townpeeks

Exactly.

[SparkingJay]

Poly pushing both wolves early is epic lol

It's almost like that matters
Hint: it doesnt since scum doesnt know each other

it significantly increases the chances of him being town because that means he wasn't pushing his townpeeks

Not sure about "significantly" and how do you know scum would push on townpeeks rather than someone else. Surely keeping your townpeeks alive if they are townreading you should be a perfectly good tactic.

I don't see why scum would push slots which they actually had a scumread on which could easily lead to scums being lynched. It's safer to push your townpeeks.

[SparkingJay]

rip well I was wrong about HTG

you were here at EoD?

no. I defended HTG before I had to go. EoD was early in the morning for me.

[polypies73]

sparking what are you reads.

i want to call you out for being under the radar but i'm not sure if that's true

[SparkingJay]

Poly pushing both wolves early is epic lol

It's almost like that matters
Hint: it doesnt since scum doesnt know each other

it significantly increases the chances of him being town because that means he wasn't pushing his townpeeks

Not sure about "significantly" and how do you know scum would push on townpeeks rather than someone else. Surely keeping your townpeeks alive if they are townreading you should be a perfectly good tactic.

Ah yes scum are just not pushing their townpeeks, but instead trying to actually get the other scum lynched.

and no why would you keep your townpeeks alive just because they are townreading you, cause then you would have to try to blindly push on people who may or not be scum.
I would think a better alternate strategy as scum would be push both your townpeeks and also other people who you think are town. That's what I assume scum is doing anyway. You can't just only push your twonpeeks otherwise it becomes obvious who your townpeeks are (htg with dota), but if you don't push them at all you're gonna be hella all over the place.


Anyway multi who are your townpeeks?

Scum don't need other scum to live, they only need one (themselves) and thus actively trying to hunt for other evils benefits them.

Till PoE becomes a problem.

[SparkingJay]

Chemist1422 - T
therealet1
JacksonVirgo
SparkingJayYT
UzayAltay - T
LOLingHyena - T
TheWabbit - T
Multiuniverse - T? debatable
AcidicBreeze
polypies73
AlwaysNever
Google
MichaelgRook
dota2reporter - T

Uzay, Wabbit and multi all as townreads hurts my brain.
especailly since uzay's D3 matches HTG's tunneling pretty well

/vote poly
Reasons mentioned Day 3
Also clearly Shading me now

They shaded in 19F and at times throughout this game, what's special about this case.

[polypies73]

In case you were wondering I shade every game

[SparkingJay]

sparking what are you reads.

i want to call you out for being under the radar but i'm not sure if that's true

Confirmed town: [SparkingJayYT]
Strong TR: [Hyena, Dota]
TR: [Poly]
Slight TR: [Uzay, Multi, Acidic, Michael]
Null: [Wabbit]

SR: Chemist, Et, Jackson, AlwaysNever (PoE), Google (PoE)

[SparkingJay]

Has Google been replaced yet?

[polypies73]

sparking what are you reads.

i want to call you out for being under the radar but i'm not sure if that's true

Confirmed town: [SparkingJayYT]
Strong TR: [Hyena, Dota]
TR: [Poly]
Slight TR: [Uzay, Multi, Acidic, Michael]
Null: [Wabbit]

SR: Chemist, Et, Jackson, AlwaysNever (PoE), Google (PoE)

wait et's in this game?

don't get any of the slight tr's

seems like your scumreads are generally inactive/low whim players

[SparkingJay]

sparking what are you reads.

i want to call you out for being under the radar but i'm not sure if that's true

Confirmed town: [SparkingJayYT]
Strong TR: [Hyena, Dota]
TR: [Poly]
Slight TR: [Uzay, Multi, Acidic, Michael]
Null: [Wabbit]

SR: Chemist, Et, Jackson, AlwaysNever (PoE), Google (PoE)

wait et's in this game?

don't get any of the slight tr's

seems like your scumreads are generally inactive/low whim players

Uzay = Despite tunnelling you and refusing to play the game due to being ignored, his tunnel on you seems town-motivated to me. I haven't seen Uzay play so demotivated to scumhunt like this before, it is weird to see. not sure how I think of it.
Multi = There was speculation about them being a high chance I think at being a townpeek. So slight tr for now.
Acidic = Recent contributions remind me of VFM62, there was also the slip, which could be seen as townie.
Michael = I mostly liked their posts when they were willing to 1 for 1 with Uzay.

Hence why AlwaysNever/Google is labelled PoE. Chemist/Et I explained. Jackson I guess could partly be labelled PoE but I do not like their D1.

[polypies73]

ok that's actually good have some free towncred

[SparkingJay]

ok that's actually good have some free towncred

[Chemist1422]

Heytheregirl17 has been lynched

Their role was

Spoiler:

"Whew! Stay in here much longer and I'll really make a splash on the world"



You are Frosty the Snowman, the carefree snowman.

You are a jolly snowman who was brought into existence by the powers of an evil magician and a magic hat. Through many Christmas adventures, you escaped his clutches and became an optimistic figure who was admired and respected by many kids. However, you grew tired of being the "Perfect rolemodel" and "The embodiment of Christmas" for all these troublesome kids, and you have embraced the very magic that you had originally escaped from. Krampus has seen your intentions, and is cultivating the seed of rebellion into your mind and making it bloom into full hatred of the Christmas spirit. You will do anything to prevent yourself from falling into the clutches of the "positive" Christmas spirit once again. You will use your innocent charm as a talking snowman to beguile and fool the public about your true intentions.

You are an Evil Christmas Spirit, a member of the Naughty Faction.

You think that there are others that share your view on Christmas, but you cannot be sure.

Each Day Phase, you may place a vote on a player in order to lynch that player. Alternatively, you may instead vote to end the game in order to fool the rest of the Nice Faction that all Naughty Faction members in the game have been killed.

If you are ever killed, Santa Claus will reveal your evil intentions and your evil soul will be purged, causing you to go straight to the realm of death, where you must reflect on your actions.

You will win with the Naughty Faction only if a member of the Naughty Faction has survived to see the Nice Faction lose the game.
You will lose if all of the Naughty Faction are killed before this happens.

[dota2reporter]

@et

why did you believe in my htg case so much? like, im really thankful for that but im just curious

[polypies73]

is chemist ok

[UzayAltay]

Chemist1422 - T
therealet1
JacksonVirgo
SparkingJayYT
UzayAltay - T
LOLingHyena - T
TheWabbit - T
Multiuniverse - T? debatable
AcidicBreeze
polypies73
AlwaysNever
Google
MichaelgRook
dota2reporter - T

Uzay, Wabbit and multi all as townreads hurts my brain.
especailly since uzay's D3 matches HTG's tunneling pretty well

/vote poly
Reasons mentioned Day 3
Also clearly Shading me now

They shaded in 19F and at times throughout this game, what's special about this case.

TBH I Dont have A metaread from 19F Because of I didnt try to read people accurate that Game
But trusting your and poly's words , I can /drop that argument .




@poly
Wabbit's case is not "You dodged "
Wabbit's case is " your HTG progression is inconsistent.
You flipflopped your read without explanation
This is not dodging Because This Hadnt questioned
Now , can You explain your progression on HTG ? ( preferably , with Quoting Wabbit's post , and explaining changes from post to post )

[Chemist1422]

is chemist ok

as usual I am not thank you for asking

[dota2reporter]

htg's reads:

in theory, her townpeeks probably had a consistent read which didnt change throughout the game, and i think that's true for all traitors so i'll do the same with debil (like me, who's 100% her townpeek)

day 1:
trs chemist with explanation, tilted & jackson no explanation but switches jackson read (says jackson scum > et scum in terms of likelihood), then uzay with explanation

srs me, acidic and wabbit, votes watchme

day 2:

trs nobody??? how did i not notice this before wow im dumb

srs me, wabbit, is fine with voting jackson/et, uzay, votes 0ver

day 3:

trs chem i think? that's it lol

srs multi, me, michael, jackson, uzay, acidic, hyena

thefore i think that the townpeeks were:

chem and me


therefore possible townpeeks are:

[dota2reporter]

oops ignore that last line

anyway that really didnt help cuz i was super TRing chem anyway

i hope it helps yall though

[dota2reporter]

that helped me find something SUPER interesting though

did you see how htg really really focused on scumreads instead of townreads?

im gonna check out ppl for the same thing

but first i gotta go to a shop for 20 min

[polypies73]

""I've literally already explained that my scumread on htg was super weak and bad on my original post, but then after reading their ISO I actually had a reason for scumreading them.""

my progression on htg was bad, yes, i made a mistake.
how
many
times
do
i
have
to
say
this