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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby polypies73 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:25 am

dota2reporter wrote:Chemist1422 - T
therealet1
JacksonVirgo
SparkingJayYT
UzayAltay - T
LOLingHyena - T
TheWabbit - T
Multiuniverse - T? debatable
AcidicBreeze
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Google
MichaelgRook
dota2reporter - T


Uzay, Wabbit and multi all as townreads hurts my brain.
especailly since uzay's D3 matches HTG's tunneling pretty well
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby polypies73 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:25 am

dota2reporter wrote:plus i actually want to play

i was scared of town htg vengekilling me and id have no mafia game to play with my super high wim

ok cool i guess, at least you had a reason even if it's kind of questionable.
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby dota2reporter » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:27 am

polypies73 wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:Chemist1422 - T
therealet1
JacksonVirgo
SparkingJayYT
UzayAltay - T
LOLingHyena - T
TheWabbit - T
Multiuniverse - T? debatable
AcidicBreeze
polypies73
AlwaysNever
Google
MichaelgRook
dota2reporter - T


Uzay, Wabbit and multi all as townreads hurts my brain.
especailly since uzay's D3 matches HTG's tunneling pretty well

theyre all townpeek guesses

oh also sparking is T, forgot
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby LOLingHyena » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:31 am

polypies73 wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:Chemist1422 - T
therealet1
JacksonVirgo
SparkingJayYT
UzayAltay - T
LOLingHyena - T
TheWabbit - T
Multiuniverse - T? debatable
AcidicBreeze
polypies73
AlwaysNever
Google
MichaelgRook
dota2reporter - T


Uzay, Wabbit and multi all as townreads hurts my brain.
especailly since uzay's D3 matches HTG's tunneling pretty well

Yeah, I feel like now's a good time to re-evaluate everyone, including Uzay, Wabbit, and Multi. I think a lot of other people have risen up in my townreads and that I need to take a real hard look at who I'm townreading, how much I'm townreading them, and why I'm townreading them again.
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Ghostly Passing: Day

Postby polypies73 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:34 am

Spoiler:
Eragon1329 wrote:
Lynch votes

heytheregirl17|6| dota2reporter, JacksonVirgo, therealet1, MichaelgRook, polypies73, Chemist1422;
UzayAltay|1| heytheregirl17;
AcidicBreeze|2| Multiuniverse, AlwaysNever;
JacksonVirgo|1| Google;
polypies73|1| UzayAltay;
MichaelgRook|2| LOLinghyena, Heytheregirl;
Chemist1422 |1| SparkingJayYT;
Not Voting|1| TheWabbit

Paranoia Votes

Continue My Paranoia|15|Chemist1422, heytheregirl17, therealet1, Google, JacksonVirgo, SparkingJayYT, UzayAltay, LOLingHyena, TheWabbit, Multiuniverse, AcidicBreeze, polypies73, AlwaysNever, MichaelgRook, dota2reporter;
End My Paranoia|0|

One hour and 28 minutes left

Eragon1329 wrote:
Lynch votes

heytheregirl17|6| dota2reporter, JacksonVirgo, therealet1, MichaelgRook, polypies73, Chemist1422;
AcidicBreeze|2| Multiuniverse;
JacksonVirgo|5| Google, Heytheregirl, AcidicBreeze, AlwaysNever, LOLingHyena;
polypies73|1| UzayAltay;
Chemist1422 |1| SparkingJayYT;
Not Voting|1| TheWabbit

Paranoia Votes

Continue My Paranoia|15|Chemist1422, heytheregirl17, therealet1, Google, JacksonVirgo, SparkingJayYT, UzayAltay, LOLingHyena, TheWabbit, Multiuniverse, AcidicBreeze, polypies73, AlwaysNever, MichaelgRook, dota2reporter;
End My Paranoia|0|

One hour and 2 minutes left


During these two Votecounts only 7 minutes passed.

Somehow, HTG, Acidic, Alwaysnever and Hyena all jumped on the jackson wagon in this time, with google voting them from a while back I think.

I'd be super super surprised if one of acidic/always/hyena is not scum. I'll also have to check the micheal CFD as well.
Seriously that EoD had some serious openwolfing, or at the least some very bad town play.
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby polypies73 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:35 am

My Jackson read also completely shattered with his Hyena vote, at the very least thank god he hammered otherwise I would be ded inside now
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby polypies73 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:41 am

Seems like the micheal CFD came just after the jackson one somehow, with HTG, Hyena, Dota and Acidic jumping on that one.

Pretty comfortable calling Acidic scum here.
Micheal also gets free townpeek cred for his EoD.

I'll need to check what hyena was doing, not so comfortable calling them scum here due to their overall play but the wagonomics look pretty bad.

[multi, jackson, always] scumlean
[uzay, acidic, wabbit] scum

google slot is idk.
There's also someone else probably FUTR.
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby AcidicBreeze » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:43 am

Maybe you should read what was actually said rather then just the votecounts?
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby polypies73 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:44 am

AcidicBreeze wrote:Maybe you should read what was actually said rather then just the votecounts?

I did
it makes my scumread stronger if anything
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby AcidicBreeze » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:44 am

Eod was horrible yes but there was a reason for those votes.
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby AcidicBreeze » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:46 am

polypies73 wrote:Seems like the micheal CFD came just after the jackson one somehow, with HTG, Hyena, Dota and Acidic jumping on that one.

Pretty comfortable calling Acidic scum here.
Micheal also gets free townpeek cred for his EoD.

I'll need to check what hyena was doing, not so comfortable calling them scum here due to their overall play but the wagonomics look pretty bad.

[multi, jackson, always] scumlean
[uzay, acidic, wabbit] scum

google slot is idk.
There's also someone else probably FUTR.

Btw why is wabbit scum here
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby polypies73 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:47 am

AcidicBreeze wrote:
polypies73 wrote:Seems like the micheal CFD came just after the jackson one somehow, with HTG, Hyena, Dota and Acidic jumping on that one.

Pretty comfortable calling Acidic scum here.
Micheal also gets free townpeek cred for his EoD.

I'll need to check what hyena was doing, not so comfortable calling them scum here due to their overall play but the wagonomics look pretty bad.

[multi, jackson, always] scumlean
[uzay, acidic, wabbit] scum

google slot is idk.
There's also someone else probably FUTR.

Btw why is wabbit scum here


They've dropped off from the game.
The 180 on uzay seemed weird af.
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby MichaelgRook » Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:06 am

too tired to start reading tonight uwu

have the day off tomorrow so it'll be perfect then uwu

don't mind the massive increase of uwuness from my eod I was very very tired uwu
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby SparkingJay » Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:21 am

rip well I was wrong about HTG

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Ghostly Passing: Day

Postby SparkingJay » Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:24 am

AcidicBreeze wrote:Wanted a nolynch due to me being unconfident turns out it was the wrong play.

No lynch would be terrible for Town, day phases end at some point.

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby SparkingJay » Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:25 am

Poly pushing both wolves early is epic lol

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Ghostly Passing: Day

Postby Multiuniverse » Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:37 am

AcidicBreeze wrote:Wanted a nolynch due to me being unconfident turns out it was the wrong play.


/vote acidic
/vote acidic
/vote acidic

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby Multiuniverse » Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:41 am

SparkingJayYT wrote:Poly pushing both wolves early is epic lol


It's almost like that matters
Hint: it doesnt since scum doesnt know each other

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby dota2reporter » Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:47 am

Multiuniverse wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:Poly pushing both wolves early is epic lol


It's almost like that matters
Hint: it doesnt since scum doesnt know each other

it significantly increases the chances of him being town because that means he wasn't pushing his townpeeks
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby Multiuniverse » Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:50 am

dota2reporter wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:Poly pushing both wolves early is epic lol


It's almost like that matters
Hint: it doesnt since scum doesnt know each other

it significantly increases the chances of him being town because that means he wasn't pushing his townpeeks

Not sure about "significantly" and how do you know scum would push on townpeeks rather than someone else. Surely keeping your townpeeks alive if they are townreading you should be a perfectly good tactic.

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby polypies73 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:58 am

Multiuniverse wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:Poly pushing both wolves early is epic lol


It's almost like that matters
Hint: it doesnt since scum doesnt know each other

it significantly increases the chances of him being town because that means he wasn't pushing his townpeeks

Not sure about "significantly" and how do you know scum would push on townpeeks rather than someone else. Surely keeping your townpeeks alive if they are townreading you should be a perfectly good tactic.


Ah yes scum are just not pushing their townpeeks, but instead trying to actually get the other scum lynched.

and no why would you keep your townpeeks alive just because they are townreading you, cause then you would have to try to blindly push on people who may or not be scum.
I would think a better alternate strategy as scum would be push both your townpeeks and also other people who you think are town. That's what I assume scum is doing anyway. You can't just only push your twonpeeks otherwise it becomes obvious who your townpeeks are (htg with dota), but if you don't push them at all you're gonna be hella all over the place.


Anyway multi who are your townpeeks?
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby polypies73 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:58 am

SparkingJayYT wrote:rip well I was wrong about HTG

you were here at EoD?
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby JacksonVirgo » Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:14 am

polypies73 wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:Poly pushing both wolves early is epic lol


It's almost like that matters
Hint: it doesnt since scum doesnt know each other

it significantly increases the chances of him being town because that means he wasn't pushing his townpeeks

Not sure about "significantly" and how do you know scum would push on townpeeks rather than someone else. Surely keeping your townpeeks alive if they are townreading you should be a perfectly good tactic.


Ah yes scum are just not pushing their townpeeks, but instead trying to actually get the other scum lynched.

and no why would you keep your townpeeks alive just because they are townreading you, cause then you would have to try to blindly push on people who may or not be scum.
I would think a better alternate strategy as scum would be push both your townpeeks and also other people who you think are town. That's what I assume scum is doing anyway. You can't just only push your twonpeeks otherwise it becomes obvious who your townpeeks are (htg with dota), but if you don't push them at all you're gonna be hella all over the place.


Anyway multi who are your townpeeks?

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby polypies73 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:18 am

jackson just because only one scum needs to live, doesn't mean scum want to actively lower the amount of scum in teh game.

It's clearly easier to win if there are a higher amount of scum left closer to the end of the game, as even if all scum are obvious town probably won't even have enough tiem to lynch them.

Seriously what is up with this argument that "only one scum needs to live", this does not actually explain how this is beneficial to scum over the alternative
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby JacksonVirgo » Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:23 am

polypies73 wrote:jackson just because only one scum needs to live, doesn't mean scum want to actively lower the amount of scum in teh game.

It's clearly easier to win if there are a higher amount of scum left closer to the end of the game, as even if all scum are obvious town probably won't even have enough tiem to lynch them.

Seriously what is up with this argument that "only one scum needs to live", this does not actually explain how this is beneficial to scum over the alternative

Completely ignoring that play just because it's beneficial to keep more scum alive is stupid, it's also beneficial to be town-read and live when the game ends.
You have absolutely no clue what the scum are planning and completely denying one possible plan is stupid
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