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Re: NFM66 | Day One [Invalid Call]

Postby Phone0Ix » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:55 pm

MrChuckleteeth wrote:
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MrChuckleteeth wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:
MrChuckleteeth wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:Maybe Chuckle didnt scumslip doesnt change the fact that the metaread is incorrect

yeah tbh i want him to elaborate


My meta read isn't incorrect.

Ongoing games included, dota is more in line with their scum meta.

False, in some games Dota played on my new Discord server, Dota was a rlly good scum player and led votes

And in some town games of him here, Dota's reads seem rlly in synch with the consensus


Statistically speaking dota is more often than not, town in ToS forums. At some point or another they have to roll scum. It's a bad argument but you can't dismiss it because it is true.

And then you have the fact in most of the games I have played I have assessed dota and attempted to successfully read their slot. I think this is the game on ToS forums where dota did in fact roll scum.

On top of that, I'm not saying dota is a bad scum player. What I am saying is that as scum, they tend to follow other people's reads and then make pushes based on that and how they appear to agree/unwilling to disagree with most things.

stats are epic man, i respect you for using them
problem is, the day when i roll scum has yet to come
i do understand what you mean, i have these biases too. like, i townread watchme in 18D because he rolled scum a lot previously

so whats the difference between my town and scum metas? im interested

but im like, fairly sure im not a sheep as scum. maybe its first-person-perspective bias, but afaik i tried to not look sheepy as i'd piss my pants getting scumread for that


You interact with most if not every interaction by giving an (sometimes unwarranted) opinion on said interaction. You'll comment away and state whether you agree or disagree, mostly in briefly explained sentences. Your genuine obliviousness suddenly becomes worryingly LAMIST, like you're trying to pretend you don't know what is happening or who is scum and who is not.

You are talking about his scum game here? Because the interaction thing is ALSO in dota's towngame, and I didn't notice the LAMIST here yet
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Re: NFM66 | Day One [Invalid Call]

Postby dota2reporter » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:55 pm

MrChuckleteeth wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:
MrChuckleteeth wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:
MrChuckleteeth wrote:
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Phone0Ix wrote:Maybe Chuckle didnt scumslip doesnt change the fact that the metaread is incorrect

yeah tbh i want him to elaborate


My meta read isn't incorrect.

Ongoing games included, dota is more in line with their scum meta.

False, in some games Dota played on my new Discord server, Dota was a rlly good scum player and led votes

And in some town games of him here, Dota's reads seem rlly in synch with the consensus


Statistically speaking dota is more often than not, town in ToS forums. At some point or another they have to roll scum. It's a bad argument but you can't dismiss it because it is true.

And then you have the fact in most of the games I have played I have assessed dota and attempted to successfully read their slot. I think this is the game on ToS forums where dota did in fact roll scum.

On top of that, I'm not saying dota is a bad scum player. What I am saying is that as scum, they tend to follow other people's reads and then make pushes based on that and how they appear to agree/unwilling to disagree with most things.

stats are epic man, i respect you for using them
problem is, the day when i roll scum has yet to come
i do understand what you mean, i have these biases too. like, i townread watchme in 18D because he rolled scum a lot previously

so whats the difference between my town and scum metas? im interested

but im like, fairly sure im not a sheep as scum. maybe its first-person-perspective bias, but afaik i tried to not look sheepy as i'd piss my pants getting scumread for that


You interact with most if not every interaction by giving an (sometimes unwarranted) opinion on said interaction. You'll comment away and state whether you agree or disagree, mostly in briefly explained sentences. Your genuine obliviousness suddenly becomes worryingly LAMIST, like you're trying to pretend you don't know what is happening or who is scum and who is not.

arent i commenting on everything here too? i dont get your point

and by obliviousness you mean generally or in this game?
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Re: NFM66 | Day One [Invalid Call]

Postby dota2reporter » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:56 pm

Phone0Ix wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:
MrChuckleteeth wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:Maybe Chuckle didnt scumslip doesnt change the fact that the metaread is incorrect

yeah tbh i want him to elaborate


My meta read isn't incorrect.

Ongoing games included, dota is more in line with their scum meta.

False, in some games Dota played on my new Discord server, Dota was a rlly good scum player and led votes

And in some town games of him here, Dota's reads seem rlly in synch with the consensus

actually now that im remembering these past games, all my town games were different (some games i'd tryhard solve, some games i'd locktown someone, some games i'd have trouble finding scum), but my scum games usually seem to stay the same

Doesn't change the fact your reads are in synch with the consensus

mostly? like remember the game i locked ejj as town, i was off sync with everyone on that

It's just a thing I noticed, it might be false, but especially in ex. the Paranoia Mafia game you were rlly in synch with others about reads. And in the first TTAG game, you followed Chemist and Jalandh.

true, i like agreeing with people
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Re: NFM66 | Day One [Invalid Call]

Postby Phone0Ix » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:56 pm

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Phone0Ix wrote:And then the thing about Chuckle's pushing: They still haven't explained how dota is apart from their town, than just saying they are in their scum meta. While the things he said are from dota's scum meta are also in his town meta -.-

yeah still curious to hear the explanation

not necesarilly scum indicative for chuckle tho imo, does scum really force a metaread to death?
eh they could, backing out would seem scummy for some

Nvm Dota can drop back to slight townlean

The first sentence: my gut says it is scummy, and the 'eh they could' feels fake, it overshow thought process

But still leaning town on Dota
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Re: NFM66 | Day One [Invalid Call]

Postby dota2reporter » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:57 pm

Phone0Ix wrote:
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Phone0Ix wrote:
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wakingfire wrote:Protectives should avoid sheriff's until they're confirmed and there are no other higher priorities.

Lol this post

the guy's new, it's understandable

the logic isn't terrible

I'm thinking it's VAI

same, waking is confirmed cit

Not confirmed, but likely

yeah thats pretty much what i mean
i'd be shocked from a waking scum flip
its never happening in my eyes
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Re: NFM66 | Day One [Invalid Call]

Postby Phone0Ix » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:57 pm

Spoiler:
dota2reporter wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:
MrChuckleteeth wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:Maybe Chuckle didnt scumslip doesnt change the fact that the metaread is incorrect

yeah tbh i want him to elaborate


My meta read isn't incorrect.

Ongoing games included, dota is more in line with their scum meta.

False, in some games Dota played on my new Discord server, Dota was a rlly good scum player and led votes

And in some town games of him here, Dota's reads seem rlly in synch with the consensus

actually now that im remembering these past games, all my town games were different (some games i'd tryhard solve, some games i'd locktown someone, some games i'd have trouble finding scum), but my scum games usually seem to stay the same

Doesn't change the fact your reads are in synch with the consensus

mostly? like remember the game i locked ejj as town, i was off sync with everyone on that

It's just a thing I noticed, it might be false, but especially in ex. the Paranoia Mafia game you were rlly in synch with others about reads. And in the first TTAG game, you followed Chemist and Jalandh.

true, i like agreeing with people

So, why does it seem like you're trying to correct me first then if you agree on it... Nice LAMIST
Call me Phone Ig

Or Silver because of my old discord name. Or Mikan because of my new discord name. Or Julian as that's my actual name
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Re: NFM66 | Day One [Invalid Call]

Postby Phone0Ix » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:58 pm

Dota and Chuckle probably TvS here
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Re: NFM66 | Day One [Invalid Call]

Postby Veeena » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:58 pm

Phone0Ix wrote:Veeena forgot to prod Alex

They were responsive to me via PMs so I gave them a bit more time. Within the hour, if they do not participate within the thread, they'll get prodded.
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Re: NFM66 | Day One [Invalid Call]

Postby dota2reporter » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:59 pm

Phone0Ix wrote:
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Phone0Ix wrote:And then the thing about Chuckle's pushing: They still haven't explained how dota is apart from their town, than just saying they are in their scum meta. While the things he said are from dota's scum meta are also in his town meta -.-

yeah still curious to hear the explanation

not necesarilly scum indicative for chuckle tho imo, does scum really force a metaread to death?
eh they could, backing out would seem scummy for some

Nvm Dota can drop back to slight townlean

The first sentence: my gut says it is scummy, and the 'eh they could' feels fake, it overshow thought process

But still leaning town on Dota

i mean sure, i just like hearing opinions on me from other people. like after a game ends i'd go to mafia/spec chat and search up "dota"

thought process thing - yeah, my bane is overthinking, my first thought is correct most of the time. so imo scum doesnt force a MR to death
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Re: NFM66 | Day One [Invalid Call]

Postby Transcender » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:59 pm

dota2reporter wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:
Google wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:
Google wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:
Google wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:google played with scum!me 0 times too lol

fun fact
this has nothing to do with anything
and i was researching the fuck out of you in asylum mafia. you were scum. i was cohost.

fairly sure i led town there
wabbit converted me because he thought im town

WHY ARE YOU TELLING ME THIS

because you disagreed with me?

fuck it
SCORCHED EARTH ON DOTA
THIS IS A DANGEROUS LEVEL OF STUPIDITY

Google does absolutely nothing except for blocking conversation who notices

i notice
google's trying to be chad and get towncred by acting scary and tunnely and its failing incredibly

phone: holy fuck he was being so stupid though
dota: oh sorry i didnt realise this was VFM54
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Re: NFM66 | Day One [Invalid Call]

Postby dota2reporter » Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:00 pm

Phone0Ix wrote: Spoiler:
dota2reporter wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:
MrChuckleteeth wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:Maybe Chuckle didnt scumslip doesnt change the fact that the metaread is incorrect

yeah tbh i want him to elaborate


My meta read isn't incorrect.

Ongoing games included, dota is more in line with their scum meta.

False, in some games Dota played on my new Discord server, Dota was a rlly good scum player and led votes

And in some town games of him here, Dota's reads seem rlly in synch with the consensus

actually now that im remembering these past games, all my town games were different (some games i'd tryhard solve, some games i'd locktown someone, some games i'd have trouble finding scum), but my scum games usually seem to stay the same

Doesn't change the fact your reads are in synch with the consensus

mostly? like remember the game i locked ejj as town, i was off sync with everyone on that

It's just a thing I noticed, it might be false, but especially in ex. the Paranoia Mafia game you were rlly in synch with others about reads. And in the first TTAG game, you followed Chemist and Jalandh.

true, i like agreeing with people

So, why does it seem like you're trying to correct me first then if you agree on it... Nice LAMIST

just wanted you to elaborate, i like discussing
the discussion reached its end so i stopped it
dont wanna milk it too much
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Re: NFM66 | Day One [Invalid Call]

Postby Veeena » Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:01 pm

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Re: NFM66 | Day One [Invalid Call]

Postby dota2reporter » Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:01 pm

Spoiler:
Google wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:
Google wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:
Google wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:
Google wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:google played with scum!me 0 times too lol

fun fact
this has nothing to do with anything
and i was researching the fuck out of you in asylum mafia. you were scum. i was cohost.

fairly sure i led town there
wabbit converted me because he thought im town

WHY ARE YOU TELLING ME THIS

because you disagreed with me?

fuck it
SCORCHED EARTH ON DOTA
THIS IS A DANGEROUS LEVEL OF STUPIDITY

Google does absolutely nothing except for blocking conversation who notices

i notice
google's trying to be chad and get towncred by acting scary and tunnely and its failing incredibly

phone: holy fuck he was being so stupid though
dota: oh sorry i didnt realise this was VFM54

ok, dont understand what you mean here at all
all i can say is ok
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Re: NFM66 | Day One [Invalid Call]

Postby Phone0Ix » Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:02 pm

dota2reporter wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:So, why does it seem like you're trying to correct me first then if you agree on it... Nice LAMIST

just wanted you to elaborate, i like discussing
the discussion reached its end so i stopped it
dont wanna milk it too much

Me: This is dota's town meta, and dota is in it
Dota: I'm not *Shows example*
Me: *Shows examples*
Dota: Yep you are definitely right!
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Re: NFM66 | Day One [Invalid Call]

Postby dota2reporter » Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:02 pm

Veeena wrote:Google |3| dota2reporter, wakingfire, TheWabbit;
GrumpyGoomba |1| Chemist1422;
dota2reporter |2| Google, xUltiix;
MrChuckleTeeth |1| Phone0Ix;
Phone0Ix |1| MrChuckleTeeth

oh, waking was the third vote

huh why did he vote google of all people
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Re: NFM66 | Day One [Invalid Call]

Postby Phone0Ix » Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:03 pm

Veeena wrote:Google |3| dota2reporter, wakingfire, TheWabbit;
GrumpyGoomba |1| Chemist1422;
dota2reporter |2| Google, xUltiix;
MrChuckleTeeth |1| Phone0Ix;
Phone0Ix |1| MrChuckleTeeth

Funny how Chuckle is rlly sure on their read on Dota and suspects me for saying Dota is town and they are wrong, and they form a vanity wagon on me when they could also be putting Dota to L4
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Re: NFM66 | Day One [Invalid Call]

Postby dota2reporter » Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:03 pm

Phone0Ix wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:So, why does it seem like you're trying to correct me first then if you agree on it... Nice LAMIST

just wanted you to elaborate, i like discussing
the discussion reached its end so i stopped it
dont wanna milk it too much

Me: This is dota's town meta, and dota is in it
Dota: I'm not *Shows example*
Me: *Shows examples*
Dota: Yep you are definitely right!

i'd say it went more like this
you: dota is in his town meta
me: my town meta varies tho *shows examples*
you: but most of the time your town meta is this *shows examples*
me: yeah true
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Re: NFM66 | Day One [Invalid Call]

Postby dota2reporter » Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:04 pm

Phone0Ix wrote:
Veeena wrote:Google |3| dota2reporter, wakingfire, TheWabbit;
GrumpyGoomba |1| Chemist1422;
dota2reporter |2| Google, xUltiix;
MrChuckleTeeth |1| Phone0Ix;
Phone0Ix |1| MrChuckleTeeth

Funny how Chuckle is rlly sure on their read on Dota and suspects me for saying Dota is town and they are wrong, and they form a vanity wagon on me when they could also be putting Dota to L4

fairly sure he inserted a pressure vote
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Re: NFM66 | Day One [Invalid Call]

Postby Transcender » Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:04 pm

dota2reporter wrote:
Google wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:
Google wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:
Google wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:
Google wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:google played with scum!me 0 times too lol

fun fact
this has nothing to do with anything
and i was researching the fuck out of you in asylum mafia. you were scum. i was cohost.

fairly sure i led town there
wabbit converted me because he thought im town

WHY ARE YOU TELLING ME THIS

because you disagreed with me?

fuck it
SCORCHED EARTH ON DOTA
THIS IS A DANGEROUS LEVEL OF STUPIDITY

Google does absolutely nothing except for blocking conversation who notices

i notice
google's trying to be chad and get towncred by acting scary and tunnely and its failing incredibly

phone: holy fuck he was being so stupid though
dota: oh sorry i didnt realise this was VFM54

ok, dont understand what you mean here at all
all i can say is ok

why do you ask to be scumread
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Re: NFM66 | Day One [Invalid Call]

Postby dota2reporter » Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:05 pm

Phone0Ix wrote:Dota and Chuckle probably TvS here

too early cant say

have a slightly hard time reading chuckle
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Re: NFM66 | Day One [Invalid Call]

Postby dota2reporter » Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:05 pm

i answer to be scumread

no need for questions
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Re: NFM66 | Day One [Invalid Call]

Postby Phone0Ix » Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:06 pm

dota2reporter wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:Dota and Chuckle probably TvS here

too early cant say

have a slightly hard time reading chuckle

But this is my view ^

Because I believe you aren't SvS but am not liking either atm
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Re: NFM66 | Day One [Invalid Call]

Postby dota2reporter » Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:07 pm

Phone0Ix wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:Dota and Chuckle probably TvS here

too early cant say

have a slightly hard time reading chuckle

But this is my view ^

Because I believe you aren't SvS but am not liking either atm

didnt you say im slight townread? something changed?

and by "too early cant say" i meant i cant say anything, you can say it, its a fine opinion
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Re: NFM66 | Day One [Invalid Call]

Postby Transcender » Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:07 pm

dota2reporter wrote:i answer to be scumread

no need for questions

ok is not a valid answer
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Re: NFM66 | Day One [Invalid Call]

Postby dota2reporter » Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:07 pm

Google wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:i answer to be scumread

no need for questions

ok is not a valid answer

ok
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