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Multiple Ranked Lists

Postby rainycake » Tue Jun 14, 2022 5:38 pm

Everyone always talks about how ranked role list should change, how about we just bring more? This would make every game different. Town list can stay mostly the same. I'm talking mostly about the evil roles. One list can have mafia roles while the other list can have two Random Neutral Killing roles. Another list can have vampires. The game would pick the list at random at the beginning. The game becomes repetitive real fast. Having multiple ranked role lists can spice it up a lot.
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Re: Multiple Ranked Lists

Postby Flavorable » Wed Jun 15, 2022 12:00 am

The whole point of Ranked is to have every game be basically the same so it focuses on skill, not rng in order to get elo.
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Re: Multiple Ranked Lists

Postby alex1234321 » Wed Jun 15, 2022 6:04 am

Flavorable wrote:The whole point of Ranked is to have every game be basically the same so it focuses on skill, not rng in order to get elo.

Why can’t the winrates be calibrated based on the rolelist? If the S4 list is one of the potential lists then that one should already be calibrated, and even if a new list is added it wouldn’t take too long. So maybe one list favors town or or mafia, but your expected Elo change would always be around 0.

Closing the rolelist would help get rid of metas and actually make the game more about skill. Even though Jailor meta isn’t used anymore people still do claim early on and the game gets solved one way or the other quite quickly. Whereas I’ve played many All Any games where it’s D8 and no one knows who is gonna win. Not saying Ranked should be AA but opening up the range of potential setups would help. Players would have to be good at adapting to different situations, and scumreading would be needed since you can’t solve the list as easily on pure night actions.

There should definitely not be a Ranked rolelist with vamps. Maybe have the current list, an S4 list, then maybe add a list where Jailor is banned and an NB list if those roles ever get reworked. That would only be four lists, but it would definitely be enough to mix things up a little bit.
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