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Two things.

Postby SilverCruz » Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:11 pm

1 - Classic view.

2 - Change the Godfather/Mafioso quit behaviour. Make it so that the quit is only announced to the Mafia, and whichever one quit will just stand around without a player until they get lynched or die for whatever other reason. Also, make it so that the quitter will echo the remaining player's actions, such as if the Godfather quits and the Mafioso decides to attack Generic Name, then the Godfather will also decide to attack Generic Name and if the non-quitter is jailed, they should also be able to declare an attack for the quitter to make (Godfather quits, Mafioso is jailed, Mafioso can still make the Godfather attack Generic Name).

Also nerf Jailor, but that's never going to happen.
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Re: Two things.

Postby Descender » Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:26 pm

how would you nerf jailor
tip:you dont
the solution is Town Power
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Re: Two things.

Postby dolphina » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:23 pm

actually kind of neat

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Re: Two things.

Postby kyuss420 » Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:43 am

yea, but that would make it more of a role specific ability. I imagine it would be easier to code it for it to happen with every role, than just for mafioso and GF.....and either way, its a whole lot of code to rewrite...oh the bugs man, the bugs
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Re: Two things.

Postby alex1234321 » Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:41 am

I could imagine a meta being developed around this. Like everyone votes for the person below them and if someone doesn't vote then they're probably a suicided Maf. People can fake it but we don't want pretending to be afk to be a viable strategy. I doubt people would to this every game but they could.
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Re: Two things.

Postby DiamondRanger8 » Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:18 pm

Jailor needs a rework imo. There's no way to directly nerf it besides getting rid of 1 or 2 executions.
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Re: Two things.

Postby alex1234321 » Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:00 pm

DiamondRanger8 wrote:Jailor needs a rework imo. There's no way to directly nerf it besides getting rid of 1 or 2 executions.


That would still make it op but should probably be done anyway. Jailor just shouldn’t spawn in Ranked. Any nerf that would make it balanced for Ranked would result in massive backlash.
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Re: Two things.

Postby DiamondRanger8 » Thu Mar 25, 2021 2:45 pm

alex1234321 wrote:
DiamondRanger8 wrote:Jailor needs a rework imo. There's no way to directly nerf it besides getting rid of 1 or 2 executions.


That would still make it op but should probably be done anyway. Jailor just shouldn’t spawn in Ranked. Any nerf that would make it balanced for Ranked would result in massive backlash.



That's why I think it should be completely reworked, because it's literally just a better Vigilante, Escort, and also could be used as a Doctor. It's wayy to overpowered so it would make sense to rework it all together for ranked.
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Re: Two things.

Postby SilverCruz » Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:50 pm

Little disappointed that the throwaway line about the Jailor was latched onto, honestly. Something does need to be done about that role, but that wasn't really the point.

Also, in general, this game needs more fallbacks to deal with quits. Slapping people on the wrist and saying "No, don't do that, here's a time out." doesn't work, and further punishment would just make the game's atmosphere hostile.

I feel like there should be an end-goal of having a quit bot that can take over for quitters so that a round doesn't get ruined so easily, but just starting with the Godfather/Mafioso specific quit bot as described would be the best place to start since its minimum required behaviour (echo the non-quitter's kill target and be directly controllable by the non-quitter if they are jailed) is pretty straightforward and it would make a huge difference since a Godfather or Mafioso quitting hurts the Mafia way more than a Town quit hurts the Town by way of leaving whoever's left vulnerable to getting deadlocked by the Jailor or an Escort.
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Re: Two things.

Postby syjfwbaobfwl » Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:47 pm

SilverCruz wrote:Little disappointed that the throwaway line about the Jailor was latched onto, honestly. Something does need to be done about that role, but that wasn't really the point.

Also, in general, this game needs more fallbacks to deal with quits. Slapping people on the wrist and saying "No, don't do that, here's a time out." doesn't work, and further punishment would just make the game's atmosphere hostile.

I feel like there should be an end-goal of having a quit bot that can take over for quitters so that a round doesn't get ruined so easily, but just starting with the Godfather/Mafioso specific quit bot as described would be the best place to start since its minimum required behaviour (echo the non-quitter's kill target and be directly controllable by the non-quitter if they are jailed) is pretty straightforward and it would make a huge difference since a Godfather or Mafioso quitting hurts the Mafia way more than a Town quit hurts the Town by way of leaving whoever's left vulnerable to getting deadlocked by the Jailor or an Escort.


There is a new leaver punishing system being worked on
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Re: Two things.

Postby SilverCruz » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:10 pm

A "new leaver punishing system" won't help. Rather than punishing quits, the focus should be on making the quits less harmful to the round.
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Re: Two things.

Postby SilverCruz » Thu Apr 01, 2021 9:08 pm

Descender wrote:how would you nerf jailor
tip:you dont
the solution is Town Power


Also since Role Ideas is a dead forum, I'll just tell you this to your face.

Nerf 1 - Jailor can no longer jail someone two nights in a row.

Nerf 2 - Witch now forces Jailor to execute by making them self-target.
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Re: Two things.

Postby Yemac » Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:17 am

SilverCruz wrote:
Descender wrote:how would you nerf jailor
tip:you dont
the solution is Town Power


Also since Role Ideas is a dead forum, I'll just tell you this to your face.

Nerf 1 - Jailor can no longer jail someone two nights in a row.

Nerf 2 - Witch now forces Jailor to execute by making them self-target.


Nerf 3 - Jailor can't jail a revealed Mayor

Nerf 4 - Tactical Mafia Kills

I like both your nerfs a lot. Witch should be able to make jailor execute more easily than knowing who jailed target is. Would also stop Jailor meta
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Re: Two things.

Postby syjfwbaobfwl » Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:50 am

Yemac wrote:
SilverCruz wrote:
Descender wrote:how would you nerf jailor
tip:you dont
the solution is Town Power


Also since Role Ideas is a dead forum, I'll just tell you this to your face.

Nerf 1 - Jailor can no longer jail someone two nights in a row.

Nerf 2 - Witch now forces Jailor to execute by making them self-target.


Nerf 3 - Jailor can't jail a revealed Mayor

Nerf 4 - Tactical Mafia Kills

I like both your nerfs a lot. Witch should be able to make jailor execute more easily than knowing who jailed target is. Would also stop Jailor meta


what about vampires? mayor cannot be exed if jailor see they were bitten
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Re: Two things.

Postby Yemac » Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:57 am

How do you mean? If jailor is bitten, then the Jailor can't jail anymore. And otherwise the vampires can bite the Mayor.

Unless you mean that Jailor exes revealed Mayor because they know they will be bitten, or talked to the vampires to be bitten (which would be throwing)
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Re: Two things.

Postby syjfwbaobfwl » Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:21 am

Yemac wrote:How do you mean? If jailor is bitten, then the Jailor can't jail anymore. And otherwise the vampires can bite the Mayor.

Unless you mean that Jailor exes revealed Mayor because they know they will be bitten, or talked to the vampires to be bitten (which would be throwing)


No, im talking when mayor was bitten and jailor isnt bitten
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Re: Two things.

Postby Yemac » Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:04 am

syjfwbaobfwl wrote:
Yemac wrote:How do you mean? If jailor is bitten, then the Jailor can't jail anymore. And otherwise the vampires can bite the Mayor.

Unless you mean that Jailor exes revealed Mayor because they know they will be bitten, or talked to the vampires to be bitten (which would be throwing)


No, im talking when mayor was bitten and jailor isnt bitten


Maybe have the button appear, but it won't jail when Mayor is Mayor, and it will jail when they're vamp?

There are already ways to find out if a Mayor is a vamp or not. e.g. having mayor vote someone.
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