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Postby efendiolun » Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:01 am

Vigilante needs death note.
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Re: Vigilante

Postby alex1234321 » Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:07 am

It used to have a death note, but this was removed because Vigilante (and all other TK roles for that matter) was able to easily confirm itself by writing its name in its death note. Self-confirming Town roles are usually frowned upon because the Town is supposed to be an uninformed majority.
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Re: Vigilante

Postby Ezradekezra » Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:20 am

Why does Vigilante need a death note? You haven't really provided an explanation.
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Re: Vigilante

Postby efendiolun » Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:44 pm

because why not ?
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Re: Vigilante

Postby Ezradekezra » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:01 pm

efendiolun wrote:because why not ?

Because we don't need even more autoconfirm roles

Mayor is enough
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Re: Vigilante

Postby OreCreeper » Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:02 pm

Ezradekezra wrote:
efendiolun wrote:because why not ?

Because we don't need even more autoconfirm roles

Mayor is enough

To be fair, vigilante is basically autoconfirmed by shooting someone. The vigilante can say who they are in the death note... but that's not usually a smart play, especially with a confirmed witch in ranked games. But anyway yeah just shooting someone proves yourself as vigilante, and if someone ccs your claim, you can just shoot them next and when they die you are confirmed.
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Re: Vigilante

Postby Ezradekezra » Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:44 pm

OreCreeper wrote:
Ezradekezra wrote:
efendiolun wrote:because why not ?

Because we don't need even more autoconfirm roles

Mayor is enough

To be fair, vigilante is basically autoconfirmed by shooting someone. The vigilante can say who they are in the death note... but that's not usually a smart play, especially with a confirmed witch in ranked games. But anyway yeah just shooting someone proves yourself as vigilante, and if someone ccs your claim, you can just shoot them next and when they die you are confirmed.

Being able to hard cc the role is very useful at MyLo

Getting rid of the ability to hard cc one of the more commonly fake-claimed roles would be an unnecessary buff to the Town and an unnecessary nerf to the Mafia.

Also, Ranked isn't the only gamemode and the Witch can still die early on.
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Re: Vigilante

Postby kyuss420 » Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:30 am

OreCreeper wrote:
Ezradekezra wrote:
efendiolun wrote:because why not ?

Because we don't need even more autoconfirm roles

Mayor is enough

To be fair, vigilante is basically autoconfirmed by shooting someone. The vigilante can say who they are in the death note... but that's not usually a smart play, especially with a confirmed witch in ranked games. But anyway yeah just shooting someone proves yourself as vigilante, and if someone ccs your claim, you can just shoot them next and when they die you are confirmed.



Someone dieing to vigi just confirms that there IS a vigi, it doesnt confirm who the vigi is.

There are other gamemodes than Classic Ranked. Just because you shoot a CC, doesnt mean they are going to die...

*vigi shoots PM
*Medusa claims vigi
*vigi decides to stay silent and shoot the vig claim (because CL is alive)
*Coven Leader sends a doc to the Medusa
*stoned Doc, stoned vigi, no dead Medusa
*Medusa is now confirmed vigi cos ''I shot the PM''

Baiting vigi to shoot you, as medusa, is pretty much meta to a smart coven, if theres any TP claims to control. Why? Because medusa is low priority coven to a smart town, and getting lynched in place of a more powerful coven role is big IQ play. So even if the play backfires because town are smart enough to figure it out, all coven lose is a Pawn, where town may have instead been focused on the Knights or Queen that day....
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Re: Vigilante

Postby syjfwbaobfwl » Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:49 am

I wouldnt mind it getting a death note like the jailor one
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