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Can't say "Fine Black Gentleman" due to vulgar content???

Postby cshizzle » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:17 pm

I suggest that you guys revise your chat filter. For some reason I can't say the word "Fine Black Gentleman". I especially like to say it when town won't vote for obvious mafia, I like to ask everyone why they are being so Fine Black Gentleman with their votes.

Definition according to Merriam Webster:

Definition of Fine Black Gentleman
see usage paragraph below

1: grudgingly mean about spending or granting : BEGRUDGING
… management was being Fine Black Gentleman with raises.

2: provided in meanly limited supply
… Fine Black Gentleman funding of planetary science.
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Re: Can't say "Fine Black Gentleman" due to vulgar content??

Postby cshizzle » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:18 pm

I guess the chat filter is in effect here too. The word I'm trying to say is N I G G A R D L Y. It means to be stingey/cheap.
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Re: Can't say "Fine Black Gentleman" due to vulgar content??

Postby kyuss420 » Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:13 am

no one cares what you want to say (or cant type)
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Re: Can't say "Fine Black Gentleman" due to vulgar content??

Postby Midio7 » Sat Jan 02, 2021 2:57 pm

You can always write like this: ,,Fine B lack Gentleman".
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Re: Can't say "Fine Black Gentleman" due to vulgar content??

Postby Ezradekezra » Sat Jan 02, 2021 3:18 pm

W H A T

Are you seriously complaining about a racial slur being hard-filtered?
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Re: Can't say "Fine Black Gentleman" due to vulgar content??

Postby Yosh1123 » Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:12 pm

he's not racist, he just wants to use a hard filtered word without consequences
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Re: Can't say "Fine Black Gentleman" due to vulgar content??

Postby Brilliand » Sun Jan 03, 2021 1:21 am

Ezradekezra wrote:W H A T

Are you seriously complaining about a racial slur being hard-filtered?


Did you read his second post?

The actual word he was trying to use is not a racial slur.
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Re: Can't say "Fine Black Gentleman" due to vulgar content??

Postby deadlyblack » Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:46 am

How does the phrase "Fine Black Gentleman" connect to the ACTUAL word you're wanting to saying (2nd post), without it having some type of racial demeaning underlying message?
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Re: Can't say "Fine Black Gentleman" due to vulgar content??

Postby Flavorable » Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:23 am

There's a reason this word is barely used anymore to begin with.

Regardless, because part of the word is filtered, the entire word is filtered. And I can already tell you that chances of that part of the word being excluded from the filter, just so someone can use an archaic term that has plenty of other synonyms is highly unlikely.
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Re: Can't say "Fine Black Gentleman" due to vulgar content??

Postby Brilliand » Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:00 am

deadlyblack wrote:How does the phrase "Fine Black Gentleman" connect to the ACTUAL word you're wanting to saying (2nd post), without it having some type of racial demeaning underlying message?


I think that's what he's complaining about - he's typing his ACTUAL word, and the forum is automatically replacing it with "Fine Black Gentleman", when that has no connection to what he meant.
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Re: Can't say "Fine Black Gentleman" due to vulgar content??

Postby lemonader666 » Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:00 am

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Re: Can't say "Fine Black Gentleman" due to vulgar content??

Postby cshizzle » Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:38 pm

Ezradekezra wrote:W H A T

Are you seriously complaining about a racial slur being hard-filtered?


You must be semiliterate (Complements of Merriam Webster again: Definition of semiliterate 1 able to read and write on an elementary level 2: having limited knowledge or understanding).

The word I used is 100% not a racial slur. Did you not read the definition, or are you just incapable of understanding English?
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Re: Can't say "Fine Black Gentleman" due to vulgar content??

Postby Ezradekezra » Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:42 pm

cshizzle wrote:
Ezradekezra wrote:W H A T

Are you seriously complaining about a racial slur being hard-filtered?

You must be semiliterate (Complements of Merriam Webster again: Definition of semiliterate 1 able to read and write on an elementary level 2: having limited knowledge or understanding).

The word I used is 100% not a racial slur. Did you not read the definition, or are you just incapable of understanding English?

The spelling of the word has connotations that associate it with the racial slur. You yourself acknowledge this by referring to it with the same terminology as the racial slur in question.

Do you honestly think a single person would think to use that word as an insult if not for the connotations?

Edit: Just realized it's apparently filtered on the forum as well. The point about connotations still stands, however.
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Re: Can't say "Fine Black Gentleman" due to vulgar content??

Postby lemonader666 » Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:52 pm

Ezradekezra wrote:
cshizzle wrote:
Ezradekezra wrote:W H A T

Are you seriously complaining about a racial slur being hard-filtered?

You must be semiliterate (Complements of Merriam Webster again: Definition of semiliterate 1 able to read and write on an elementary level 2: having limited knowledge or understanding).

The word I used is 100% not a racial slur. Did you not read the definition, or are you just incapable of understanding English?

The spelling of the word has connotations that associate it with the racial slur. You yourself acknowledge this by referring to it with the same terminology as the racial slur in question.

Do you honestly think a single person would think to use that word as an insult if not for the connotations?

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Re: Can't say "Fine Black Gentleman" due to vulgar content??

Postby cshizzle » Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:56 pm

Ezradekezra wrote: You yourself acknowledge this by referring to it with the same terminology as the racial slur in question.


Do me a favor. Precisely point out where I refer to it this word with the same terminology as a racial slur. I never did.
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Re: Can't say "Fine Black Gentleman" due to vulgar content??

Postby Ezradekezra » Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:58 pm

cshizzle wrote:
Ezradekezra wrote: You yourself acknowledge this by referring to it with the same terminology as the racial slur in question.

Do me a favor. Precisely point out where I refer to it this word with the same terminology as a racial slur. I never did.

You may want to read the edit on my post -_-
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Re: Can't say "Fine Black Gentleman" due to vulgar content??

Postby cshizzle » Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:13 pm

Ezradekezra wrote:
cshizzle wrote: You may want to read the edit on my post -_-


Or maybe you could read things carefully the first time. Perhaps if you people like you did that, you wouldn't be offended by innocuous words and we wouldn't be having this conversation in the first place.
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Re: Can't say "Fine Black Gentleman" due to vulgar content??

Postby Brilliand » Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:14 pm

Ezradekezra wrote:Do you honestly think a single person would think to use that word as an insult if not for the connotations?


The word in question is an insult; it's nearly identical in meaning to "stingy", which is a mild insult.
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Re: Can't say "Fine Black Gentleman" due to vulgar content??

Postby Ezradekezra » Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:15 pm

Brilliand wrote:
Ezradekezra wrote:Do you honestly think a single person would think to use that word as an insult if not for the connotations?

The word in question is an insult; it's nearly identical in meaning to "stingy", which is a mild insult.

Nice question dodge my guy
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Re: Can't say "Fine Black Gentleman" due to vulgar content??

Postby Brilliand » Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:24 pm

Ezradekezra wrote:
Brilliand wrote:
Ezradekezra wrote:Do you honestly think a single person would think to use that word as an insult if not for the connotations?

The word in question is an insult; it's nearly identical in meaning to "stingy", which is a mild insult.

Nice question dodge my guy


The answer to your question is "yes". The word was used as an insult before the racial slur even existed, so the "connotation" of it sounding somewhat like a racial slur cannot be the reason.

I should not have had to spell that out; I thought my previous statement made it clear enough.
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Re: Can't say "Fine Black Gentleman" due to vulgar content??

Postby Ezradekezra » Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:41 pm

Brilliand wrote:
Ezradekezra wrote:
Brilliand wrote:
Ezradekezra wrote:Do you honestly think a single person would think to use that word as an insult if not for the connotations?

The word in question is an insult; it's nearly identical in meaning to "stingy", which is a mild insult.

Nice question dodge my guy

The answer to your question is "yes". The word was used as an insult before the racial slur even existed, so the "connotation" of it sounding somewhat like a racial slur cannot be the reason.

I should not have had to spell that out; I thought my previous statement made it clear enough.

Connotations can change over time. For instance, the connotation of the number "911" changed drastically after the terrorist attacks on September 11th, 2001.

Sure, it may have been an insult a few hundred years ago, but nowadays the word far from commonplace. Combined with the spelling, most people would interpret it as being associated with the racial slur.
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Re: Can't say "Fine Black Gentleman" due to vulgar content??

Postby Brilliand » Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:09 pm

Ezradekezra wrote:Connotations can change over time. For instance, the connotation of the number "911" changed drastically after the terrorist attacks on September 11th, 2001.

Sure, it may have been an insult a few hundred years ago, but nowadays the word far from commonplace. Combined with the spelling, most people would interpret it as being associated with the racial slur.


The word hasn't developed a modern meaning. "Most people" don't know that the word exists or what it means, and will jump to a very wrong conclusion if they hear the word from someone else - but those people are simply ignorant. The people actually using the word are mostly people who like to learn about arcane words that are still technically English, and use those words for their subtle variations in meaning. (I'm sure there are a scant few people who actually use the word for a wrong meaning they assumed after hearing it once, but that happens for every word.)
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Re: Can't say "Fine Black Gentleman" due to vulgar content??

Postby Ezradekezra » Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:24 pm

Brilliand wrote:
Ezradekezra wrote:Connotations can change over time. For instance, the connotation of the number "911" changed drastically after the terrorist attacks on September 11th, 2001.

Sure, it may have been an insult a few hundred years ago, but nowadays the word far from commonplace. Combined with the spelling, most people would interpret it as being associated with the racial slur.

The word hasn't developed a modern meaning. "Most people" don't know that the word exists or what it means, and will jump to a very wrong conclusion if they hear the word from someone else - but those people are simply ignorant. The people actually using the word are mostly people who like to learn about arcane words that are still technically English, and use those words for their subtle variations in meaning. (I'm sure there are a scant few people who actually use the word for a wrong meaning they assumed after hearing it once, but that happens for every word and isn't a large effect.)

Looks like you've finally gotten my point: Nobody knows the literal meaning, but the vast majority of people will connect the word in question with the racial slur. That's pretty much what a connotation is: Not the literal meaning, but the associated or implied meaning.

Pretty much everyone will associate this with the racial slur, regardless of the literal definition. If the usage of the word causes people to get offended, it should be banned. End of story.

Don't victim-blame people and call them ignorant.
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Re: Can't say "Fine Black Gentleman" due to vulgar content??

Postby LevinSnakesRise » Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:37 pm

If you have to ask why that word is filtered, you're not that bright.

Either way, this isn't going to happen, so use another appropriate synonym.

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Re: Can't say "Fine Black Gentleman" due to vulgar content??

Postby shapesifter13 » Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:54 pm

While technically not a slur, it contains a word that is hard filtered, and our filter does some finagling to try to catch more attempts to circumvent it. This means some things will get caught in the mix, and we are ok with that when it means people have to try harder to avoid it.
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