by kyuss420 » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:00 pm
noobs playing it as a last man standing mode...as usual
1. Its easy to figure out the stoned roles by...idk...maybe using logic? What can be stoned n1? BG, doc, crus, sheriff, tracker, transporter. thats it, oh and vigi, if they were controlled.
sheriff and tracker claim day 2 (because theres absolutely no reason to hide) so if theres no claim from one of them, theyre obviously stoned. If medusa wasnt transported or attacked, then obviously the TS and vigi are alive (or if the TS claims).
2. Random town slots you say? You realise this would make it much more dificult for the coven, not easier.....and what roles are you removing to add these RT slots?
Spy - totally kills any chance HM has at framing someone, anyone claiming poisoned would be confirmed as lieing or not straight up, let alone outing the Coven leader n1/n2 when the PM visits them to heal. If there was a PM kill n1, one of the coven visits n2 is definately the CL.
Invest - gives coven even less claim space, instead of a sheriff who cant even find the last coven, you have a role that can spot the coven, down to which coven role they are, in 1 night
jailor - ''tell me the vip or i execute'' yea thats a big help for coven.....
bg/doc/crus/trapper - even another TP that coven has to get through before hitting the vip
TS - extra escorts, transporters, rets revivng dead TPs....more problems for coven
vet/vig - more killing power for town
LO - just camp on the crus, and its the jailor meta all over again, CL outed n1.
The role list is actually as perfect as it could be, any change to the list would make it harder for coven by causing them to either need extra nights alive in the game to win, or by killing them faster/outing them much easier
3. ITS NOT A LAST MAN STANDING WINS MODE! its very easy to understand.... coven must kill the TPs and the VIP, before town kills off the coven.... coven lose a member a day, so they have 4 nights to kill the VIP..... ofc youre not going to win if youre going to randomly target people, or kill the TS and TIs....thats going to cost you a night. Of course you arent going to win if youre going to try and outclaim town..... claim TP always and try for a mislynch...will that get you killed? sure, are you likely going to get killed anyway? you bet! can you win while dead? bet your ass you can!!
I could rant on for hours, but its already been done, so if you're really bothered to learn the best mode in the game, im sure you can read up the guides on the forums (and yes, I scroll for coven roles, and have an 80% + win rate as coven in VIP......and no, Im not the luckiest player in the game)