Possible data breach

[TurdPile]

That website claims they were made aware december 28. Besides, I don't think a simple forum post even qualifies for informing affected users

Just because they said they contacted, doesn't mean they got in contact.

I got a message at 2am saying "Just now seeing all this shit about a data breach, Anything in the trial's code that could compromise db access?" - that doesn't scream awareness about having known about the issue to you, does it?

[YFYDB]

Dare I touch this post with a 10 metre stick, but are you roleplaying your outrage?

No idea, what you mean by roleplaying my outrage, i am writing it over.

Of course, you can't forsee everything, but you have forseen a bit too little. No forgiveness for you all.

[Royee]

the biggest problem I see with this is people who don't know about this and all of their passwords are pretty much the same.

[goigle]

MD5 in 2018? Is that a joke?

Being an indie developer is no excuse, that's a negligent disregard for security.
I've also heard the forums are 5 years out of date, I'd that true? Newer versions of phpbb use more secure hashing algorithms

[YFYDB]

You were one of the safest websites i made an account on.

I would hate to know what other websites you use, because this was the farthest from being the safest site on the internet in terms of security...

It used to be.
Emm... Just regular websites with anime.


Yeah.... 5 years too old? It is named procrastination...

[bkyblyat]

That website claims they were made aware december 28. Besides, I don't think a simple forum post even qualifies for informing affected users

Just because they said they contacted, doesn't mean they got in contact.

I got a message at 2am saying "Just now seeing all this shit about a data breach, Anything in the trial's code that could compromise db access?" - that doesn't scream awareness about having known about the issue to you, does it?

So you claim DeHashed is lying?

Friday, 12/28/2018 – 11:33 AM PST – Emailed BlankMediaGames
Friday, 12/28/2018 – 12:33 PM PST – Called BlankMediaGames
Saturday, 12/29/2018 – 15:01 PM PST – Emailed BlankMediaGames
Saturday, 12/29/2018 – 15:12 PM PST – Called BlankMediaGames (No Answer)
Sunday, 12/30/2018 – 09:12 AM PST – Emailed BlankMediaGames

They have received our emails per our original voice conversation, but are yet to respond or even acknowledge either the breach or the emails.

[Tusillody]

Now would be a great time to switch to https for the forums too, no? Unless I'm seeing things my browser keeps flashing "WEBSITE NOT SECURE" at me in bright red every time I try to log in lol

I can help with this. From what I've just tested, going into your bookmarks and editing the BMG ones to contain https:// at the beginning, and also adding it to the url of the page you're currently on in the url bar does seem to make it default to https instead of http.
Alternatively, if your browser does not do this as a function or it reverts back to http, there's a handy extension for Chrome, Firefox and Opera called Redirector by Einar Egilsson that can be used to make sure it redirects to https every time a BMG site is entered.

Edit: Better alternative- "HTTPS everywhere" (Thank kristian818 a couple posts down)

I have just logged into the town of salem website and was redirected here with an insecure link. We should not have to add the "s" to "https", these devs have left all of our data wide open for years. Now it's caught up to all of us.

"We're not a large company we are an indie company"

This excuse is bollocks. No excuse is good enough for all of the incompetence from this team. They will find the legal trouble they deserve, and soon.

[Flavorable]

Now would be a great time to switch to https for the forums too, no? Unless I'm seeing things my browser keeps flashing "WEBSITE NOT SECURE" at me in bright red every time I try to log in lol

I can help with this. From what I've just tested, going into your bookmarks and editing the BMG ones to contain https:// at the beginning, and also adding it to the url of the page you're currently on in the url bar does seem to make it default to https instead of http.
Alternatively, if your browser does not do this as a function or it reverts back to http, there's a handy extension for Chrome, Firefox and Opera called Redirector by Einar Egilsson that can be used to make sure it redirects to https every time a BMG site is entered.

Edit: Better alternative- "HTTPS everywhere" (Thank kristian818 a couple posts down)

I have just logged into the town of salem website and was redirected here with an insecure link. We should not have to add the "s" to "https", these devs have left all of our data wide open for years. Now it's caught up to all of us.

"We're not a large company we are an indie company"

This excuse is bollocks. No excuse is good enough for all of the incompetence from this team. They will find the legal trouble they deserve, and soon.

I sincerely doubt there's any legal trouble over this. No one is ever obligated to use an https website.

[BonnieThePenguin]

The weaknesses of MD5 have been exploited in the field, most infamously by the Flame malware in 2012. The CMU Software Engineering Institute considers MD5 essentially "cryptographically broken and unsuitable for further use".

So...if the hashing isn't doing its job...why is that hashing method in use?

Because we’re terrible developers obviously

Achilles I would seriously consider deleting this comment and reaching out to someone with experience in Data Security Management / Public Relations.
There are going to be a lot of people looking in on this with interest and this comment shows a concerning lack of responsibility and professionalism.

very big oopsie

You should leave this one to the community manager I think

[Tusillody]

Now would be a great time to switch to https for the forums too, no? Unless I'm seeing things my browser keeps flashing "WEBSITE NOT SECURE" at me in bright red every time I try to log in lol

I can help with this. From what I've just tested, going into your bookmarks and editing the BMG ones to contain https:// at the beginning, and also adding it to the url of the page you're currently on in the url bar does seem to make it default to https instead of http.
Alternatively, if your browser does not do this as a function or it reverts back to http, there's a handy extension for Chrome, Firefox and Opera called Redirector by Einar Egilsson that can be used to make sure it redirects to https every time a BMG site is entered.

Edit: Better alternative- "HTTPS everywhere" (Thank kristian818 a couple posts down)

I have just logged into the town of salem website and was redirected here with an insecure link. We should not have to add the "s" to "https", these devs have left all of our data wide open for years. Now it's caught up to all of us.

"We're not a large company we are an indie company"

This excuse is bollocks. No excuse is good enough for all of the incompetence from this team. They will find the legal trouble they deserve, and soon.

I sincerely doubt there's any legal trouble over this. No one is ever obligated to use an https website.

I hope you are playing dumb, I do not mean they will find legal trouble over their https problem, but the data breach of almost 7 million accounts. No mass email to warn people, no way to request what info they store, they are in SERIOUS violation of GDPR and I'm excited to see what happens next.

Edit: Just saw TurdPile's comment on GDPR time limit being 72 hours. This breach happened on December 22nd according to DeHashed and December 28th according to HaveIBeenPwnd.. That's a little longer than 72 hours. If you (The devs) expect anyone to believe that you had no clue about the breach until today then you're dumber than you think we are.

Further edit: Data from this breach was being sold on December 10th. Good luck with the GDPR.

[Technetium]

I don't really think yelling at BMG about how they let this happen is going to get it fixed.

[ChubbyMooshroom9]

The password hashing is controlled by the forum software; the forum at the moment is deeply ingrained with interactions with the game, which makes any changes to the forum software literally game-breaking. With the Unity development, the BMG devs are working on completely decoupling the game from the forum and ditching PhpBB altogether for a better forum software (Vanilla is what was being discussed).

Will I lose prosilver?

[MafiaMenace]

The weaknesses of MD5 have been exploited in the field, most infamously by the Flame malware in 2012. The CMU Software Engineering Institute considers MD5 essentially "cryptographically broken and unsuitable for further use".

So...if the hashing isn't doing its job...why is that hashing method in use?

Because we’re terrible developers obviously

Achilles I would seriously consider deleting this comment and reaching out to someone with experience in Data Security Management / Public Relations.
There are going to be a lot of people looking in on this with interest and this comment shows a concerning lack of responsibility and professionalism.

very big oopsie

You should leave this one to the community manager I think

lol bro sis? this entire mess is a joke

[TurdPile]

Edit: Just saw TurdPile's comment on GDPR time limit being 72 hours. This breach happened on December 22nd according to DeHashed and December 28th according to HaveIBeenPwnd.. That's a little longer than 72 hours. If you (The devs) expect anyone to believe that you had no clue about the breach until today then you're dumber than you think we are.

I, (not a dev, nor employee) do not care if you believe what I state as fact. Me doing my part to give proper information is enough to let me sleep at night; whether or not you want to believe the facts I tell you is up to you. The fact is GDPR regulations state 72 hours after awareness, not after occurrence. That is all I'm saying. Nothing more, nothing less. You can easily verify that information yourself.

[ChubbyMooshroom9]

Edit: Just saw TurdPile's comment on GDPR time limit being 72 hours. This breach happened on December 22nd according to DeHashed and December 28th according to HaveIBeenPwnd.. That's a little longer than 72 hours. If you (The devs) expect anyone to believe that you had no clue about the breach until today then you're dumber than you think we are.

I, (not a dev, nor employee) do not care if you believe what I state as fact. Me doing my part to give proper information is enough to let me sleep at night; whether or not you want to believe the facts I tell you is up to you. The fact is GDPR regulations state 72 hours after awareness, not after occurrence. That is all I'm saying. Nothing more, nothing less. You can easily verify that information yourself.

Ok that's cool and all but what about prosilver the masses await

[Tusillody]

Edit: Just saw TurdPile's comment on GDPR time limit being 72 hours. This breach happened on December 22nd according to DeHashed and December 28th according to HaveIBeenPwnd.. That's a little longer than 72 hours. If you (The devs) expect anyone to believe that you had no clue about the breach until today then you're dumber than you think we are.

I, (not a dev, nor employee) do not care if you believe what I state as fact. Me doing my part to give proper information is enough to let me sleep at night; whether or not you want to believe the facts I tell you is up to you. The fact is GDPR regulations state 72 hours after awareness, not after occurrence. That is all I'm saying. Nothing more, nothing less. You can easily verify that information yourself.

The team was aware days ago due to Dehashed calling and emailing before going public. They verified that emails had been read. Dehashed will be the bane of these excuses.

[BonnieThePenguin]

The weaknesses of MD5 have been exploited in the field, most infamously by the Flame malware in 2012. The CMU Software Engineering Institute considers MD5 essentially "cryptographically broken and unsuitable for further use".

So...if the hashing isn't doing its job...why is that hashing method in use?

Because we’re terrible developers obviously

Achilles I would seriously consider deleting this comment and reaching out to someone with experience in Data Security Management / Public Relations.
There are going to be a lot of people looking in on this with interest and this comment shows a concerning lack of responsibility and professionalism.

very big oopsie

You should leave this one to the community manager I think

lol bro sis? this entire mess is a joke

Smooth edit

[Tusillody]

Everything else is just game related data.

Could you please elaborate on this for clarity? On some 0-Day websites I've seen them reference this as browser analytics data, what exactly was stored here?

It seems like they got our phpbb database, so the analytic data stored in there such as what browser you logged in on.

"Usernames, Emails, Passwords (phpass, MD5(WordPress), MD5(phpBB3)), IP Addresses, Game & Forum Activity, & Payment Information. With some of the users who paid for certain premium features having their billing information/data breached as well."

Hmm.

[Tusillody]

Hey Tusil, I'm about as upset as you are but you're just reaching for a reason at this point lmao

Reaching? Take your spam elsewhere, adults are trying to talk here. Spend the time you're making these useless comments and go look at how hard this dev team has fucked you.

[Razbae]

Why would someone want to login to a town of salem account that badly? People are weird.

[Tusillody]

Why would someone want to login to a town of salem account that badly? People are weird.

The account information found in this breach will be used to hack accounts on other websites or services. The information was being sold in early December, so it's already being used.

[Razbae]

Why would someone want to login to a town of salem account that badly? People are weird.

The account information found in this breach will be used to hack accounts on other websites or services. The information was being sold in early December, so it's already being used.

Oh that makes sense. Thanks for that.

[Chemist1422]

The information was being sold in early December, so it's already being used.

You gonna back up that claim or?

[sportakus1]

Changed my pass, but leaked IP and e-mail is still concerning me.

I hope this wont affect me in any way in future, otherwise I might delete my account to save myself from this mess.

[Tusillody]

Changed my pass, but leaked IP and e-mail is still concerning me.

I hope this wont affect me in any way in future, otherwise I might delete my account to save myself from this mess.

Deleting your account will not save you from anything. Make sure your email password is not the same as the breached password and you should be fine. In a breach like this, IP addresses are not cared for. It's the account information that can be used on other sites and services, and credit card info that is either used for return-scams or sold off.