Botting Situation Update

[rushofpower]

So the game became p2p because you couldn't stop a bunch of scripters in a public discord channel in time? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Also weren't the people behind the credit card fraud already found? Why bring this up and link it to some botters?

Whatever bitter former botter this is give it up, stop acting like you're someone else. Nice to see you magically come out of woodwork after a year of absence just to give a snarky reply to the devs and subtly defend your botting friends. Cute alt acc!

Take out your favorite discord bot and look up my stats. Please back up your evidence before throwing out such heinous claims on an active player you haven't personally seen.

Yes I am friends with some of the people that did botting, and I'm not trying to defend them. I just find this real life witch hunt incredibly silly. The witches were exposed in this post, but they are far from being burned like the previous posts above seem to believe. Botters are going to happen in any game and any platform, you just have to make sure your game and equipment are ready to handle it. There are proper ways to defend against botters, and there are wrong ways. I can think of numerous ways they could have defended themselves against botters before turning to a p2p alternative, and this is what I'm trying to underline here.

Again, I don't claim to be defending these botters, and I don't claim these are their motive, just giving some food for thought. Good and bad aren't as clear as black and white.

If BMG wasted any more time dishing out alternatives they'd all be temporary fixes and the botting would just simply continue as they themself said. P2P was the fastest and most efficient method to deal with the botters.

edited argumentative remarks out

[SebboiSebboh]

You are not a dev. you do not have a qualification in the gaming industry. you are on no ground to know what they "could" of done before turning to a p2p alternative.

Here's some food for thought for you - take your own advice and shut up, loser.

[rushofpower]

You are not a dev. you do not have a qualification in the gaming industry. you are on no ground to know what they "could" of done before turning to a p2p alternative.

Here's some food for thought for you - take your own advice and shut up, loser.

ok

[TurdPile]

You are not a dev. you do not have a qualification in the gaming industry. you are on no ground to know what they "could" of done before turning to a p2p alternative.

Here's some food for thought for you - take your own advice and shut up, loser.

Oh thanks for posting; I'd forgotten to ban you with the rest of the spammers.

[MafiaMenace]

barely a page in and you all have devolved to this retardation

[TurnaboutTeddy]

Can we make "I'm a bot" jokes now

[fable979]

Lmao. 3 ex-trial judges.
You let these people be the justice keeper.
Let them ban people for trivial things.
Abizoey acted almighty like he's very righteous in the trial discord. I once told him that he couldn't follow the law in real life.

[Tahee]

3 ex-trial judges is pretty eyeing. There should be a better background check when appointing people to power.

[ispymate]

Wouldn't some of the things like the credit card fraud should be reported to authorities because it is felony offense if it did happen.

[TurdPile]

I'm giving my final input on this.

From what it seems this is a case of both "I'm gonna do this for attention" and "The devs won't listen to me so I'm gonna ruin their game". That's just it. More than likely they are gonna keep doing this even if they are banned, because as long as VPNs exist they will keep doing it to bypass the IP ban (and ironically they look smart enough to do something like this for a stupid cause).

Now, to the BMG staff, I think it's time we address the elephant in the room. This isn't the first time an incident happened with the people you trusted to be part of a big part of your game (stuff like the Testing Grounds drama for example), of course that was just trivial stuff and we all got over that a long time ago, this time the people you trusted were up to something behind your back for seemingly months. So I think this is a good time to address you need to keep better watch of your community, because stuff like this happens when you trust people that already seemed unworthy to be trusted anyhow. This is part of the reason a lot of people claim you don't listen to your own community. In fact, this one incident can say a lot, but I won't go into that.

tl;dr this is what happens when you don't see the full picture when choosing who to trust

3 ex-trial judges is pretty eyeing. There should be a better background check when appointing people to power.

It's not really to do with background. Bluewave and Abi were phenomenal Jurors and Judges for a very, very long time. You can't really predict when someone will go AWOL and do things on a misguided notion that in order to help the game they must take things into their own hands and first ruin the game under guise of "helping". It isn't like they started off as moonmen. They were Jurors and Judge first, then became corrupt much later along.

[James2]

Their actions were inexcusable and the bans are obviously correct, but the fact that three high-ranking staff members got so pissed off that they decided to try to destroy the game, should be a cause for reflection on the part of the devs.

[TurdPile]

Their actions were inexcusable and the bans are obviously correct, but the fact that three high-ranking staff members got so pissed off that they decided to try to destroy the game, should be a cause for reflection on the part of the devs.

Fair enough. Devs are making a concerted effort to be more engaged with the forum community; which is a good first step in my opinion. The move to pay to play opens many doors.

[Achilles]

We could have done a lot of things better in hindsight. However the fact that they did the things they did simply because they felt ignored speaks a lot about their character. In fact when we went P2P they started attacking another murder mystery game called secret hitler. I think they are the type of people that would’ve found some other game to do this to if it wasn’t us. But yes we should’ve been better at putting a stop to them sooner.

[FrankLeeAwful]

I can't speak for everyone, but this was honestly quite a shock.

[FrankLeeAwful]

We could have done a lot of things better in hindsight. However the fact that they did the things they did simply because they felt ignored speaks a lot about their character. In fact when we went P2P they started attacking another murder mystery game called secret hitler. I think they are the type of people that would’ve found some other game to do this too if it wasn’t us. But yes we should’ve been better at putting a stop to them sooner.

Wait, isn't Secret Hitler a tabletop game? How does one even go about attacking that?

Edit - My apologies, I probably should have edited my original comment instead of adding one.

[TurdPile]

We could have done a lot of things better in hindsight. However the fact that they did the things they did simply because they felt ignored speaks a lot about their character. In fact when we went P2P they started attacking another murder mystery game called secret hitler. I think they are the type of people that would’ve found some other game to do this too if it wasn’t us. But yes we should’ve been better at putting a stop to them sooner.

Wait, isn't Secret Hitler a tabletop game? How does one even go about attacking that?

Edit - My apologies, I probably should have edited my original comment instead of adding one.

https://secrethitler.io/

Shortly after going Pay 2 Play, we were getting contacted on reddit and forums by secret hitler mods that these guys moved their attacks to their free to play game.

[BasicFourLife]

Well, I basically knew all this already. Nothing knew here.

It doesn't appear good for BMG that ex-Trusted/Close Community members were the head of the Moonmen attacks.

[polypies73]

wow a lot has happened since I was gone.

[FrankLeeAwful]

You joined in 2017 and hardly have any posts. You can't call yourself a longtime member who supposedly saw the rise of this game

I have a slight sneaking suspicion that this isn't his first account.

[KarlBowers]

Until now, I still can't believe that Bluewave is in this. Thank you guys for solving this bot problem.

[Djaouida]

Until now, I still can't believe that Bluewave is in this. Thank you guys for solving this bot problem.

I suspected blue was apart of this somehow. But not be the mastermind behind all of it.

[KarlBowers]

Until now, I still can't believe that Bluewave is in this. Thank you guys for solving this bot problem.

I suspected blue was apart of this somehow. But not be the mastermind behind all of it.

I suspected Abizoey before… cuz of her actions in the forum…

[YFYDB]

I am very glad, that those callous botters are banned.
I can't understand, why they did that to our game... Only monsters would do that. That's good, that we know their nicknames.

[Moltac]

I always told y'all Rekcah was a lunatic lmao

[HereThereEverywhere]

is changing the way a person thinks the proper way just beyond your realm?

You can't just change the way someone thinks at the drop of a hat, that's why punishments are typically, y'know, long