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Postby Achilles » Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:19 pm

Moderator Message: This patch is now out. To further discuss the changes, please refer to this thread: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=62988


Moderator Message: Please do not post PTR Bugs here! Post them in the PTR Bug Report Forum!
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Hey Townies!

We are very excited to be opening the PTR and show you all of the cool things we have been working on.

Cauldron
At the top of the home page you will notice a button for the Cauldron. It is a new reward system for players to come back and play everyday! Each day you will get 20MP for adding a potion to the Cauldron and on day 7 you will get a special big reward. This can be almost any item in the game (excludes special items like Refer-A-Friend, Steam exclusive robot and Boat Load of Swag). There is also an option to enhance your cauldron for town points to influence the rewards you can get! Note that the MP earned from the Cauldron is doubled for Steam users and will be effected by double merit point weekends as well.

Taunts
Taunts are an exciting new in-game feature that allows you to mess with other players anonymously. You can summon a dog to pee on their leg, summon a witch to turn them into a frog or summon a RIP tombstone to tease them about an upcoming death. We plan on adding more taunt cosmetics in the future but wanted to get this system out as soon as we could!

Arsonist
The arsonist douses now trick the investigators results to think the doused target could be an arsonist. Douses are also now silent. We want to thank everyone who participated in the community survey!

Spy/Mafia
We have added a message sent to Mafia members if the game started with a Spy in it. Note that this does not tell Mafia members if there are 2 Spies and 1 dies or if a Spy is converted to a Vampire. It is simply a way for Mafia to know if a game starts with no Spy and they are able to communicate freely.

Coin Farming
We heard from our community members that some players were abusing Custom lobbies to farm coins (especially during double Merit weekends). We have changed the way Merit Points are awarded for Custom/Rapid game modes to be time based. Normal users should see no change in the amount of Merit Points earned but those who try to coin farm with unbalanced role lists will get few Merit Points when the game ends in only a few minutes.

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Re: PTR is now open! Help us find the bugs!

Postby xUltiix » Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:39 pm

First

Unfortunately most of these changes are total shit.

Arso change is obvious total shit
Spy change doesnt fix the problem
Taunts are ok but should have a disable button
No opinion on cauldron
Coinfarming fix is good I guess
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Re: PTR is now open! Help us find the bugs!

Postby Atlantium » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:00 am

Bug using the cauldron... I can claim my free potion daily every 50 seconds
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Re: PTR is now open! Help us find the bugs!

Postby bradles0 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:03 am

Cauldron: player retention? yay?
Taunts: unnecessary, but i guess you have to give the art team something to do?
arsonist: so you decided to nerf the investigator instead of buffing arson? that's nice...
spy: letting maf know one of the TI is a spy is really strong though, because it lets people like escorts and consigs know if they can pass for their town counterpart safely or if spy is gonna notice that their will copies the maf visits that didn't kill.
Coin farming: good job?
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Re: PTR is now open! Help us find the bugs!

Postby GamerGuyMW » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:03 am

How will custom lobby be awarded merit points because i enjoy playing custom rapid and other modes. and also, does this mean you can get even more than 40 merit points for custom?
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Re: PTR is now open! Help us find the bugs!

Postby LevinSnakesRise » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:06 am

Atlantium wrote:Bug using the cauldron... I can claim my free potion daily every 50 seconds

Since this is the PTR, I believe this is intended.

Regardless, post all bug reports here please, and not this thread;
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Re: PTR is now open! Help us find the bugs!

Postby xUltiix » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:08 am

Arsonist's biggest problem is that it is trash. It framing for the Investigator helps cover for other evils more than itself, it is still just as trash and is more of a way to help the other evils win rather than a role that actually has a chance if it plays well.

I didnt think of the fact that mafia knowing of a Spy's existence could also help Consigs/Consorts, but the best fix would just be to remove the role or remove it's broken abilities (Mafia chat and visits)
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Re: PTR is now open! Help us find the bugs!

Postby xUltiix » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:16 am

Also the cauldron system is surprisingly generous
spent 1k TP for legend brew and got the full voxel bundle on PTR
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Re: PTR is now open! Help us find the bugs!

Postby TurdPile » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:17 am

xUltiix wrote:Arsonist's biggest problem is that it is trash. It framing for the Investigator helps cover for other evils more than itself, it is still just as trash and is more of a way to help the other evils win rather than a role that actually has a chance if it plays well.



Silent douses would probably help because always its 'I'VE BEEN DOUSED' day 2 in every arso game, ever.
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Re: PTR is now open! Help us find the bugs!

Postby xUltiix » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:19 am

TurdPile wrote:
xUltiix wrote:Arsonist's biggest problem is that it is trash. It framing for the Investigator helps cover for other evils more than itself, it is still just as trash and is more of a way to help the other evils win rather than a role that actually has a chance if it plays well.



Silent douses would probably help because always its 'I'VE BEEN DOUSED' day 2 in every arso game, ever.

I supported silent douses and roleblock immunity.
The arsonist framing is just a bad idea and will only help other evil roles and wont actually help the arsonist.

xUltiix wrote:
TurdPile wrote:
xUltiix wrote:Arsonist's biggest problem is that it is trash. It framing for the Investigator helps cover for other evils more than itself, it is still just as trash and is more of a way to help the other evils win rather than a role that actually has a chance if it plays well.



Silent douses would probably help because always its 'I'VE BEEN DOUSED' day 2 in every arso game, ever.

I supported silent douses and roleblock immunity.
The arsonist framing is just a bad idea and will only help other evil roles and wont actually help the arsonist.

Adding to this, most of the time when nontown get hung at least at my elo, it is by scumreading. TIs usually go unused and this doesnt give the arsonist raw power- it violates the basic rule of being a hardcounter along with not being useful.
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Re: PTR is now open! Help us find the bugs!

Postby xUltiix » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:25 am

S4bre wrote:
xUltiix wrote:Arsonist's biggest problem is that it is trash. It framing for the Investigator helps cover for other evils more than itself, it is still just as trash and is more of a way to help the other evils win rather than a role that actually has a chance if it plays well.

I didnt think of the fact that mafia knowing of a Spy's existence could also help Consigs/Consorts, but the best fix would just be to remove the role or remove it's broken abilities (Mafia chat and visits)


Arsonists biggest problem is the same as the other Neutral Killings, they are usually solo and it's a 1v14 at the start of the game in ranked, depending on the possible chance of Witch and Survivor siding with you and the any being a similar NK. That aside however I would say that silent dousing is better for arsonist than changing the invest results, as if TI doesn't roll investigator then there is no point in your ability.

As for spy however, showing that there is one in game will stop consorts and consigs claiming the town version of their role with the will showing who they visited, I know that this isn't an issue with most players but some people have still been caught out because of it. Knowing when you can and can't talk is also quite useful, it will also allow you to be careful with who you visit as you know it will confirm them as not being mafia, it might not be the change you are looking for but it is still something.

Give me WW in Ranked, I will crush. Give me SK, depending on the town's luck I will also crush.
Give me Arsonist and I will most likely lose because arsonist is bad. This adds no extra power to it, only makes it cover for other evils and hardcounters one role that isnt even guaranteed.
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Re: PTR is now open! Help us find the bugs!

Postby Hellpest » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:28 am

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Seriously though. Silent douuses are bad IMO, but if it's being implemented in the PTL to gauge community response, I don't have a problem with that. What I DO have a problem with its the Spy. This change fixes nothing - It's another botch job like Mayor.
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Re: PTR is now open! Help us find the bugs!

Postby roz1roz » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:40 am

I still think that if arsonist douses should frame, then sheriff should be able to find arso, but also his results would be affected by douses.

This way it would look less then hard countering investigator.
Also it would encoruge longer periods before actualy igniting, cause if some "arso" result at sheriff will won't die to fire... then... you found arso!
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Re: PTR is now open! Help us find the bugs!

Postby LevinSnakesRise » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:53 am

As far as I know, this is going to be 1.6. I haven't been corrected so far, so I assume it's correct.
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Postby Jerme » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:54 am

Is the Transporter change (the transported announcement) a relic of a previous patch or intended to be added again? I hope it is the former :c
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Re: PTR is now open! Help us find the bugs!

Postby Ogeezalo » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:05 am

Just to be safe, the merit points you use in the PTR don't affect live right? I am also loving the cauldron system artwork, good job!
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Re: PTR is now open! Help us find the bugs!

Postby LevinSnakesRise » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:08 am

BeholdToTheeOG wrote:Just to be safe, the merit points you use in the PTR don't affect live right? I am also loving the cauldron system artwork, good job!

PTR isn't linked to the live version at all. Nothing transfers.
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Postby Jerme » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:09 am

BeholdToTheeOG wrote:Just to be safe, the merit points you use in the PTR don't affect live right? I am also loving the cauldron system artwork, good job!

PTR and the live servers are different and the syncing works only one way (live -> PTR), thus anything you do on PTR should not affect your account on the normal server.
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Re: PTR is now open! Help us find the bugs!

Postby Achilles » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:10 am

Naru2008 wrote:
BeholdToTheeOG wrote:Just to be safe, the merit points you use in the PTR don't affect live right? I am also loving the cauldron system artwork, good job!

PTR isn't linked to the live version at all. Nothing transfers.


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Re: PTR is now open! Help us find the bugs!

Postby Detherior » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:39 am

The changes seem alright, the cauldron system is a nice addition and most of the other changes and fixes seem good, anyway that's just my thoughts...
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Re: PTR is now open! Help us find the bugs!

Postby PremedScroll » Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:26 am

Cauldron System:
It's a nice system, but maybe get players to play a game to redeem the potion?
Also is there any info on what the "Legendary Potion" does?

Taunts:
I agree with those who say there should be an option to disable it. I'm sceptical about this system and feel it will be abused to flame someone who screwed up in the match (plus I don't like dogs peeing on me).

Arsonist:
It's nice to try something new. Ultimately I feel that silent dousings are all that are required; the 2nd change is more of a nerf to Investigator/Consigliere than anything.

Spy:
Surprised about this change. I know Spy is a powerful role but I thought it was one of those 'deal with it' scenarios. The whole point of being careful about who you whisper to is "A Spy/Blackmailer may be listening..."

Coin Farming:
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Postby Lyphian » Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:40 am

When is it released?
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Re: PTR is now open! Help us find the bugs!

Postby HellaMainey » Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:45 am

Yall making too many unnecessary changes. Waited too long to listen to what the community really wanted, and now ya'll are rushing to try to implement these changes that are total shit.

Should have just gotten rid Arsonist. Shit role that can't be fixed.
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Re: PTR is now open! Help us find the bugs!

Postby DsterCR » Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:54 am

I want to buy potions in the cauldron, but they reply back with I don't have enough points, which I tried to buy Character, Pet and Housing, and they all reply with not enough points even though I have 255 golden merit points.
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Postby Moonlynx » Tue Feb 28, 2017 6:34 am

The PTR is so lagged that the graphics barely render. It's impossible to play.
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