Soulshade55r wrote:And that's it there are EIGHT ROLES that Mafia can not ever claim if they want to continue playing the game: Jailor, Lo, Med, Mayor, Spy, Transporter, Escort (unless playing Consort), Retributionist
Jailor, Situational but you can claim Jailor with a Janitor + no meta Jailor
LO, In general lookout is my go to claim as RM in ranked it's actually worked wonders for me, open claims are your best friend and if you're not confident in your N1 being right then prepare another fake claim
Mayor, yes only in Jail.
Spy, ??? you realise RM can visit jailor if you are talking about spies being confirmed by LO, in general spy is in a bad spot for a role balance wise but it's nowhere near "unfakeabe"
Transporter I've done it before it's worked out it's backfired sometimes but in general it's worked out for me.
Escort, I mean like pretending to rb mafia having a forger, ect helps you can fake claim escort if jailor isn't open but unlike trans there's no real reson not to rb Jailor n1
Retri, use it as a get out of jail free card if you really need to, Retri getting reworked soon into something that is actually able to be faked imo.
1: Whenever there is a Janitor game where Jailor did not come out (which is the most gamethrowy thing a Jailor can do in Ranked imo) Jailor claims are always suspected to the point that if no executions happen the Jailor claim gets hung
2: I am legit curious. How could you ever claim Lookout as Rm??? How do you find the Tps and other Los or other visits on Jailor please make me learn I would like to try out claiming Lo
And Also even if you do get those claims and somehow find all the Tps and visits on Jailor in some days this is how I would see a situation like this happen:
You (Fake claiming Lookout n2 or n3 and you are Jailed by Jailor)
Jailor
Jailor: Role
You: Lookout
Jailor: Will?
You: You the Lookout: n1: Jailor visited by (Tp 1, Tp 2, Ti 3, Ti 4, Escort 1)
Jailor: Why didn't you whisper me the results when the second day started?
You: ????
Jailor has decided to execute you
You: Fuck
3: Transporter is the closest townie you can claim because I have seen a lot of transporter claims in Ranked and it's always fun seeing what they manage to make. I feel like Trans is in a gray area where it is hard to claim as Mafia but it is possible in some situations
Also, Transporter is a really risky and unreliable claim since if you ever get outed or get hung you will be outing 1-2 Mafia with you as you die. I just don't like the Transporter gamble it should be a bit more fair for Mafia. Having Hypno in Ranked would fix this completely
4: If you are Escort and you are not on Jailor n1 you are gonna be lynched. Even if you are confirmed by spy or I don't fucking care who
You will be lynched or executed If I am in the game
5: Yep Retri should hopefully start becoming a better claim for Mafia in the future, nothing more to add here
6: Spy: you can not claim Spy as Gf or Mafioso obviously. But mainly Spy claiming just gets destroyed if you get a bad bug, It's even more of a risky gamble than claiming Transporter in my opinion. Because one wrong bug and you are out of the game while with Transporter you are usually trusted unless you are only transporting yourself with someone else all the time
7: Ooo a secret number 7 yes it's medium. The reason I am saying Medium is strong is because he can be confirmed. NOT BY RETRIBUTIONIST, but Medium can copy-paste dead chat in seconds and can easily get a whisper from a dead townie to confirm himself being a Medium confirms yourself so easily that you are just confirmed. And it is literally impossible for Mafia to copy-paste as fast as a real Medium to look legit period.
Medium will still be overpowered as just a comfortable townie and a claim that Mafia can not ever claim